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[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 17 2005, 08:52 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 17 2005, 08:52 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Francois,<br /><br />I did post about my first experiments on the slides.<br /><br />A session of 10x 1:00 with 15s rests was 1.5 to 2 seconds faster on the slides, than when I did them the next day on the erg.<br /><br />Now that the HC is over, I am planning to do more repetitions again, my first session in the next few days.<br /><br />Then I will repeat the session on the slides, alternating it perhaps twice a week total and report the results.<br /><br />Cheers.   <br /> </td></tr></table><br />By the way, congratulations John for your million meters row during the HC! <br /><br />How can you row that much and still have the time to contribute to this forum?<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Francois

[[old] John Rupp]

Francois,<br /><br />Thanks. <br /><br />I took breaks in between.

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 17 2005, 12:22 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 17 2005, 12:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 17 2005, 01:12 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 17 2005, 01:12 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It is only one step to 1:34 @ 32 spm (13.1 SPI, 10MPS), the limits of my potential[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Wow, now 32 spm is the limit of your potential. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yep. That will be the next goal: 13.1 SPI, 32 spm, 10 MPS<br /><br />The long rowing I have been doing at 14-15 SPI is now bringing this goal into focus (or if not into focus, at least onto the horizon).<br /><br />If you can do low rate rowing at 2 SPI above your 2K SPI, you're on target, I think; and I now seem to be able to do that, however inadequately and sporadically, for a 2K target of 13 SPI.<br /><br />I will have to do a lot of off-season rowing at 1:50 @ 18 spm (etc.) to get there more solidly.<br /><br />ranger<br />

[[old] slo_boat]

<!--QuoteBegin-FrancoisA+Dec 17 2005, 04:39 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Dec 17 2005, 04:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->By the way, congratulations John for your million meters row during the HC! <br /><br />How can you row that much and still have the time to contribute to this forum?<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Francois <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />In John's case, is posting really the same as contributing to the forum? <br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yep. That will be the next goal ... 32 spm<br /><br />I will have to do a lot of off-season rowing at ... 18 spm (etc.) to get there more solidly.<br /><br />ranger[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good luck to you then!<br />

[[old] Dave Sachs]

Being a newcomer to erging I get a great deal of comic relief from this thread. Has it ever occured to everyone so worked up about this guy named "Ranger" that he is just "pulling your chains" to see how worked up he can get you and how much controversy he can create? I have a tendency to believe that he is much like Rush LImbaugh or Howard Stern in that he creates fame for himself through the creation of controversy. I bet he has side splitting laughs reading all of the posts following his statements. Wouldn't it make the most sense to just not respond to his posts and ignore them? Face it - most all of us are sitting on a plastic seat mounted on a rail in our basements. Very few if any of us will ever be profiled in the New York Times or THe Times of London due to our awesome accomplishments on an erg. Basically no one cares other than ourselves and our sense of accomplishment. If we were all so awesome we would be rowing for the US or German or English "On Water" National Teams (i.e. real rowing teams) in the OLympics or World Championships - not on a plastic seat on a rail in our basements. As for Ranger - I never heard of him before - and never would have - without this thread. Let him ride his plastic seat on his metal rail in his basement in peace and if he is good enough to ride his plastic seat on his metal rail at a competition faster than others kudos to him and for that matter to all others who competed. THe only people who will notice are others (probably numbered in the low 100s) who erg competitively and actually care. MOst of us do not.

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I bet he has side splitting laughs reading all of the posts following his statements. </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /><br />So true!<br /><br />Hilarious stuff.<br /><br />BTW, I row OTW now, too. My next goal is to try to win the 55-59 hwt OTW US Nationals. <br /><br />But, heck, you are so right! I am just a 55-year-old English professor having some fun with a hobby. <br /><br />No big deal.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 17 2005, 06:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 17 2005, 06:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yep. That will be the next goal ... 32 spm<br /><br />I will have to do a lot of off-season rowing at ... 18 spm (etc.) to get there more solidly.<br /><br />ranger[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good luck to you then! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks, John.<br /><br />ranger<br />

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 17 2005, 06:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 17 2005, 06:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 17 2005, 02:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yep. That will be the next goal ... 32 spm<br /><br />I will have to do a lot of off-season rowing at ... 18 spm (etc.) to get there more solidly.<br /><br />ranger[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good luck to you then! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Crucial elision, JR, before the 18 spm: the pace! If I can get so that I can do 30K, or perhaps even a marathon, at 1:50 and 18 spm, it will be faster, by a considerable margin, than anyone my age and weight has ever rowed these distances, even using half again as many strokes.<br /><br />If I can get this done, my efficiency would be off the charts.<br /><br />ranger<br />

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If we were all so awesome we would be rowing for the US or German or English "On Water" National Teams (i.e. real rowing teams) </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not a bad idea. I will never be "awesome," given my age. But if I ever reach my full potential, 6:16, your idea might not be entirely unreasonable. 6:16 is a respectable lwt 2K in the open division, and might get me a look by the National Team, although it would be somewhat marginal in the competition for spots, I would presume.<br /><br />If I retired (I qualify for full retirement next month), I wouldn't have any job conflicts. And my children are now grown and off to college (and beyond). Who knows? Princeton might even be interested in giving me some piecemeal work, if the poetics that I have devised and am writing up now goes over well, as I think it might.<br /><br /> <br /><br />ranger

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 18 2005, 12:59 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 18 2005, 12:59 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If I can get so that I can do 30K, or perhaps even a marathon, at 1:50 ... it will be faster, by a considerable margin, than anyone my age and weight has ever rowed these distances[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hey that's cool.<br /><br />If I can get so I can row a half marathon at, say, 1:42 pace, or even a marathon... this will be faster than anyone my age has done too.<br /><br />Amazing stuff, Rich! <br />

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 18 2005, 08:49 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 18 2005, 08:49 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But, heck, you are so right! I am just a 55-year-old English professor having some fun with a hobby. <br /><br />No big deal.<br /><br />ranger<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />A hobby you spend 5 hours a day on starting at 4 in the morning - sounds a little obsessive to me for a 'hobby' - thats going to be some tapestry you hang on the wall (if it ever gets finished)<br /><br />George<br />

[[old] Ralph Earle]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 16 2005, 09:31 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 16 2005, 09:31 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Show me one rower who has a PATT percentage of 100% in both events then. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />In your age/weight group, Graham Watt holds the WR in the 2K and the marathon. Certainly that should get him a 100% PATT?

[[old] John Rupp]

In the 2k, yes.<br /><br />In the marathon, no, as PATT percentages for the 9 events other than the 2k are based on best performances from "all" age groups and divisions.<br /><br />Let's make this easier.<br /><br />Show me one rower who has a PATT percentage of 100% in both the 2k and the 10k.<br /><br />

[[old] Porkchop]

<!--QuoteBegin-george nz+Dec 18 2005, 02:51 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 18 2005, 02:51 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 18 2005, 08:49 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 18 2005, 08:49 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But, heck, you are so right! I am just a 55-year-old English professor having some fun with a hobby. <br /><br />No big deal.<br /><br />ranger<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />A hobby you spend 5 hours a day on starting at 4 in the morning - sounds a little obsessive to me for a 'hobby' - thats going to be some tapestry you hang on the wall (if it ever gets finished)<br /><br />George <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Maybe it qualifies as an "avocation." "Hobby" sounds so frivolous.