Pain in Shoulders

[Romper]

Thanks bob.

Why dispense with foot straps?

Should my hands pass over my knees before I brake my knees up?

Romper

[Bob S.]

Thanks bob.

Why dispense with foot straps?

Should my hands pass over my knees before I brake my knees up?

Romper

footstraps: As I said, it helps to improve your sequencing. It may not be necessary, but a lot of beginners have found that it is. If you have any trouble trying to stay on the seat without your feet being strapped in, then your drive sequence is off.

hands and knees question: Yes and just the reverse on the drive, when your legs should be about straight before you do any elbow bending. In fact, that latter point is the reason behind rowing without the straps. If you start to pull with your arms too soon, there are two problems. The first is that it results in the weak arm muscles trying to compete with the much more powerful leg muscles and wears out the arms too soon. The second is that the leg drive gives the body backward momentum. The arm pull does some additional work on the wheel, but it also stops that backward momentum. If the arm pull is too early, the momentum is not sufficiently checked, the feet come off the stretcher, and the rower goes over backwards. If you have to have your feet strapped in to avoid this, you might not be made aware of the fact that the arm pull was too early. Strapless rowing has to be done at a low rate at first to avoid having a flip over backwards accident.

Bob S.

[Romper]

Wow! Never thought rowing could be so technical.

This thread has been very very beneficial for a new players..

I rowed for 8 months on another different type of rower earlier this year, god knows how wrong the technique would have been....

I will spend more time on technique at a reduced rate and perhaps in a week's time, take another video and post up here for reflection....

Thanks Bob.

[hjs]

Thanks h j s.

When you state "first hands away and then break the knees", do the knees only break after the hands pass the knees?

Or, is it ok for hands to pass over the broken knees?

What is an ideal rate for developing technique?

Romper

The main point is, don,t lift the hands over the knees. There is no single moment to break the knees.

Rate for technique, slow enough that the pace does not make you tired and makes it possible to us a firm stroke. Say 18/24 range.

[Romper]

Thanks HJS.

I think the rate i was doing in video 4 was 33 sp m.

so, yeah, need to slow down until the technique is perfected...

What about breathing - when and how much during the whole stroke cycle?

How beneficial is the PM 5 for optimising stroke and output (over the pM4)?


Romper

[hjs]

Thanks HJS.

I think the rate i was doing in video 4 was 33 sp m.

so, yeah, need to slow down until the technique is perfected...

What about breathing - when and how much during the whole stroke cycle?

How beneficial is the PM 5 for optimising stroke and output (over the pM4)?


Romper

33 is way to high at the moment.
Breath without thinking about it. Let it go like it goes
Not, A pm has nothing to do with your stroke.

[Citroen]

How beneficial is the PM 5 for optimising stroke and output (over the pM4)?

They both have the force curve but that's best left for another month after you've learned the basics.

[Romper]

Thanks guys.

You have all been very helpful getting me over this initial hump.

I will practice everything referred to in this thread and report back soon.

BTW - i read that some tall people with a long inseam opt for a longer rail version in this C2 unit (by about 5-6").

How do I know if this unit is still the right length for me?


ROmper

[hjs]

Thanks guys.

You have all been very helpful getting me over this initial hump.

I will practice everything referred to in this thread and report back soon.

BTW - i read that some tall people with a long inseam opt for a longer rail version in this C2 unit (by about 5-6").

How do I know if this unit is still the right length for me?


ROmper

Are you planning to grow 20 inches ? If not this rail is plenty long enough

[Romper]

Cheers mate.

Will report back later with video #5......

Romper

[Bob S.]

BTW - i read that some tall people with a long inseam opt for a longer rail version in this C2 unit (by about 5-6").

How do I know if this unit is still the right length for me?


ROmper

At 188cm you would be about average or less around a boathouse. It is the guys who resemble pro basketball players that need the longer rails.

[Romper]

Thanks Bob

[Romper]

Attempt 5 now up.

Let me know what you think - good, bad or ugly...


Romper

[hjs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HfDCBlEUn4

Attempt 5 now up.

Let me know what you think - good, bad or ugly...


Romper

Looks a lot better.
The stroke does look a bit soft though, but that is a matter of training and getting faster.
You still have a pause a bit at the end of the stroke, and you still rush the recovery a bit. Simply put, the drive is a bit to slow and the recovery a bit to fast. That is what I mean with soft. But in itself is a soft stroke not wrong. The strokes per minute are a bit high for the speed.

Ps, maybe wearing a shirt is a good idea. But that is ofcourse up to you.

[Romper]

Hi HJS.

What part of the stroke looks soft?

Here is video 6. Any improvement on video 5?

I have watched video 5 and recognise some gaps, that i hoped to have fixed in video 5.

I still feel my lower back bends too much (I think) at the catch position... I try to keep my whole back straight at this point but cannot. Is my back curve still not OK in your opinion?

Is my bum sitting OK on the seat?

I will wear a shirt from now on...sorry for any offence.


Romper