Us Indoor Rowing Team Selection

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 20 2005, 07:50 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 20 2005, 07:50 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->George,<br /><br />I'm not familiar with New Zealand history.<br /><br />Can you tell me what the feather stands for?<br /><br />Thanks.    <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I could tell you a lot about the significance of my avatar John but what would be the point. If you were more mature it might be worth the time as it is important, and doubly so to those that have worn it with pride at the highest (and lowest) levels of competition.<br /><br />To waste that knowledge on you would be an insult to them, and I take more pride in my country's heritage than that - something you obviously dont with yours.<br /><br />George

[[old] NavigationHazard]

In the interests of full disclosure, I'd like to point out that the 2k trial results for this year's Copenhagen squad have all been posted on the C2 site:<br /><br /><a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... team05.asp' target='_blank'>2005 US IRT</a><br /><br />Mine was actually a verified/witnessed 6:19.7, not a 6:21.9, but I attribute that to clerical error rather than some alleged grand conspiracy.....<br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

What is this crap..................<br /><br />Dennis Hastings 55 Evergreen, CO Men 50-59 LWT 6:39.2 (altitude adjusted)<br /><br />huh??? <br /><br />BULL ! <br /><br />His time was <b>6:51.2</b> and not any faster than that!<br /><br />This is what happens when a selection committee picks their buddies, instead of having selection based on PERFORMANCE.

[[old] John Rupp]

The audacity to post a time that is 12 faster than he actually did is just NUTS.

[[old] PaulS]

Hmm, more crybaby BS from the usual suspects, imagine that.

[[old] gw1]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey Gary from the Great Sthn Land (one of the best songs ever by the way - Ice house), happy to take some flack from an Aussie  you guys have earned the right (but not that edited).<br /><br />cheers George<br /><br />ps NZ home of the 2011 RWC </td></tr></table><br /><br />George,<br /><br />Any thoughts on next weeks Tri-Nations final? <br /><br />GW

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 20 2005, 02:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 20 2005, 02:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What is this crap..................<br /><br />Dennis Hastings    55  Evergreen, CO  Men 50-59 LWT  6:39.2 (altitude adjusted)<br /><br />huh???      <br /><br />BULL !  <br /><br />His time was <b>6:51.2</b> and not any faster than that!<br /><br />This is what happens when a selection committee picks their buddies, instead of having selection based on PERFORMANCE. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The altitude adjustment, if any, appears to be fairly correct in his ability. In 2005 at the Mile High Sprints in Denver Colorado, he rowed 6:54.2 and later at the WIRC he rowed a 6:43.8, which is an 10.4 second difference.

[[old] R S T]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 20 2005, 10:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 20 2005, 10:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What is this crap..................<br /><br />Dennis Hastings    55  Evergreen, CO  Men 50-59 LWT  6:39.2 (altitude adjusted)<br /><br />huh???      <br /><br />BULL !  <br /><br />His time was <b>6:51.2</b> and not any faster than that!<br /><br />This is what happens when a selection committee picks their buddies, instead of having selection based on PERFORMANCE. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />What is the problem John?<br /><br />He turned up and performed at altitude. Why the quantum leap of logic on your part?<br /><br />Or is it adjustments in general that you have a problem with? <br /><br />....come to think of it, I don't like some adjustments either ........weight adjustments....nonsense, PATT comparisons.....nonsense. <br /><br />For instance, Graham Benton just rowed a 5:46.? today, and I think Shroeder rowed a 5.44.?.......just waiting for you to come out and explain that their PATT 'scores' are not as high as a certain older gentleman in another weight class...... <br /><br />Cheers<br />RichardT

[[old] Citroen]

<!--QuoteBegin-R S T+Nov 20 2005, 10:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(R S T @ Nov 20 2005, 10:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For instance, Graham Benton just rowed a 5:46.? today, and I think Shroeder rowed a 5.44.? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Graham rowed 5:46.9 M open HWT<br />Jamie rowed 5:44.0 M BUSA open HWT<br /><br />Both were incredible events. It was worth staying to the end of the competition today to see those two.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Thomas+Nov 20 2005, 02:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Thomas @ Nov 20 2005, 02:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2005 at the Mile High Sprints in Denver Colorado, he rowed 6:54.2 and later at the WIRC he rowed a 6:43.8, which is an 10.4 second difference.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />I can do a time trial one week and a week later do 10 seconds faster, in my garage, with NO competition at all.<br /><br />What does that prove????<br /><br />Nothing.<br /><br />It is crazy to give someone a free 12 seconds just because they live at 5000 feet.<br /><br />Heck the times are probably in reality faster there.<br /><br />If he had qualified at Boston then you had WIRC at Evergreen the times would probably be reversed.

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 20 2005, 03:45 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 20 2005, 03:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Thomas+Nov 20 2005, 02:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Thomas @ Nov 20 2005, 02:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2005 at the Mile High Sprints in Denver Colorado, he rowed 6:54.2 and later at the WIRC he rowed a 6:43.8, which is an 10.4 second difference.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />I can do a time trial one week and a week later do 10 seconds faster, in my garage, with NO competition at all.<br /><br />What does that prove????<br /><br />Nothing.<br /><br />It is crazy to give someone a free 12 seconds just because they live at 5000 feet.<br /><br />Heck the times are probably in reality faster there.<br /><br />If he had qualified at Boston then you had WIRC at Evergreen the times would probably be reversed. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You are right, John. If you did a time trial in your garage and went 10-seconds faster a week later, it would prove nothing.

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 21 2005, 12:45 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 21 2005, 12:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It is crazy to give someone a free 12 seconds just because they live at 5000 feet.<br /><br />Heck the times are probably in reality faster there.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />There you are folks the one person in the whole athletic community across all sports who thinks it is easier to compete at altitude - now all we have to do is wait for his book to come out and the sporting world to race to his door for more words of wisdom.<br /><br />Why did we ever doubt him.<br /><br />George

[[old] John Rupp]

Eddy Merckx knows it too!<br /><br />Here he is just before smashing the 1 Hour World Record at Mexico City in 1972.<br /><br /><img src='http://www.thespincycle.com/files/merckxMoltini.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br /><br />"Throughout this hour, the longest of my career, I never knew a moment of weakness, but the effort needed was never easy ... I will never try it again ... I don't think I could ever improve on this record."<br /><br /><a href='http://www.thespincycle.com/trips.asp?l ... st_cyclist' target='_blank'>http://www.thespincycle.com/trips.asp?l ... ist</a><br /><br /><a href='http://www.torelli.com/owen/eddyhour.html' target='_blank'>http://www.torelli.com/owen/eddyhour.html</a><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

Thomas,<br /><br />He went 10 seconds faster at the World Indoor Rowing Championships than at home.<br /><br />Whoopppp -- dee -- doooooooo!!!!<br /><br />Exactly.<br /><br />It proves nothing.

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 20 2005, 06:16 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 20 2005, 06:16 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thomas,<br /><br />He went 10 seconds faster at the World Indoor Rowing Championships than at home.<br /><br />Whoopppp -- dee -- doooooooo!!!!<br /><br />Exactly.<br /><br />It proves nothing. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It proves that there is some sort of needed adjustment for those racing in Denver, Colorado and who will later race in Boston, Massachusetts.