Us Indoor Rowing Team Selection

[[old] gw1]

George,<br /><br />Isn't that a Dodo bird feather? <br /><br />GW

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-gw1+Nov 18 2005, 01:47 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gw1 @ Nov 18 2005, 01:47 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->George,<br /><br />Isn't that a Dodo bird feather? <br /><br />GW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Hey Gary from the Great Sthn Land (one of the best songs ever by the way - Ice house), happy to take some flack from an Aussie you guys have earned the right (but not that <b>edited</b>).<br /><br />cheers George<br /><br />ps NZ home of the 2011 RWC

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 17 2005, 11:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 17 2005, 11:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Less competitors in an age group does not lead to the conclusion that "competition increases with age".  What it means in the real world is that competition decreases with age.  <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Yes and no!<br /><br />In sports with a longer competitive history than erging, the WR in older age categories are set by the very same people that were setting WR when younger. So even if there are less people competing in older age groups, the WR are not any easier to beat.<br /><br />For instance, our swim coach still holds two WR that were set in 92 when she was in the 30-34 age group. She also holds a WR in the 40-44 age group. She will be competing in the 45-49 age group in 2006 and was telling me that she <i>might</i> set a new WR but it it is not getting any easier, quite the opposite in fact!<br /><br />Cheers!

[[old] Thomas]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 17 2005, 12:58 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 17 2005, 12:58 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Thomas+Nov 17 2005, 12:05 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Thomas @ Nov 17 2005, 12:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The analogy being if this topic was a raging fire, would it be better to throw water and sand on it to put it out or would it be better to just let it burn itself out, in essence would it be better to do nothing.[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Or you could keep using the same faulty building codes and practices that got the fire started in the first place. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It is more of a <i>grass fire</i>, bordered by roads and dirt fields, with no apparent damage to people or property and no significant enironmental impact. Assessed as better to let it burn itself out than to unnecessarily risk personnel.

[[old] bmoore]

I found this very interesting essay by an artist.<br /><br /><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>No Whining: And I mean it</span><br /><br />whine (hwhn, whn) v. whined whinäing whines v. intr. 1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint. 2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion, often in an annoyingly plaintive voice. 3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining. v. tr. <br /><br />No whining here refers specifically to definition number two as shown above. There is more to whining than irritation; scratch a whiner and you most assuredly will not find a winner. <br /><br />Whining projects a negative image of the one engaged in the futile act. If misery loves company, then do your self a great service and find new friends who don’t dwell there. If you are the whiner, you can choose to excise the thorn from your psyche at any time and make being around you a delight instead of a drag. Whining is chronic; it is not the once in a while casual complaint. <br /><br />Whiners are victims and by my experience, spiritual vampires who insidiously drain the life force. Victim-no-more is the mantra and the way forward toward evolution. No complaining. No blaming. No bouts of ego-induced self-sabotage. No shooting your self in the foot. Remove the stings and barbs from your vocabulary. Remove the angst of jealousy. Stop comparing your self with others. Stop wishing and start dreaming, for waking dreams lead to dynamic actions that transform impossible ambitions into fact. If you are fortunate enough to know that this life is about making dreams come true, then you can begin directing the scenes of your own life. Know that the whole you, the non-whining you, the grounded you, the art-conscious you, need covet nothing. Know that art is the magic entrance to the kingdom. You need only knock, open the door, and have the will to enter. <br /><br />Whining has relatives, bored and excuses to name two. If you are bored, then you are boring. Excuses. I can’t paint because the light isn’t right; I can’t paint with people watching me; I don’t have a studio; I don’t have a studio that’s big enough; I don’t have the right color oils; I can’t write at night; I can’t compose in the morning; and all the “I cannot’s and do not’s” in the universe are impotent beliefs that keep the thinker a prisoner from entering the land called “can do.” Count and keep a log of how many negative thoughts you have in a single day; the number and their cumulative effect will startle you into awareness. <br /><br />Artists as a group are no different than any other group. There are generous artists, and there are cheap artists. There are gregarious artists, and there are reclusive artists. There are temperamental artists, and there are balanced artists. The list goes on. While artists who are whiners may even be famous and externally successful, it is the non-whining artist who ultimately triumphs in the grandeur of the big picture. Not buffeted by the whims of public taste, the non-whining artist’s draws her success from self-discipline, knowing that she touches God when she works. The rest of it is marketing, politics, and timing, elements that play their part in direct proportion to her dedication. The same grace for non-whining is available to the civilian as well. <br /><br />When the whining habit finally withers away and the focus becomes one’s work in gratitude and appreciation, the house of complaining airs out and becomes vacant of negativity. At this juncture, you come to realize that there is always plenty of room at the top. <br /><br />Now you are ready to truly wine and dine with the gifts and blessings that you have earned as a “whine-free” spirit.»<br /><br />Copyright © 2004 by Eden Maxwell. v1.0. All Rights Reserved<br /><br /><a href='http://www.edensart.com/mainpages/no_whining.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.edensart.com/mainpages/no_whining.htm</a>

[[old] gw1]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ps NZ home of the 2011 RWC </td></tr></table><br /><br />That sounds like a great trip! <br /><br />Cheers<br />GW<br /><br />

[[old] johnnybike]

George,<br /><br />You made a post yesterday, which I am not going to quote, which was offensive, derogatory and very personal.<br /><br />I do not think the language or attitude is necessary or desired.<br /><br />Sure you seem to have a personal issue with Ranger but there is no need to cloud the whole thread with it.<br /><br />I am not doing a JR here and taking sides but I think that post went too far amd was much to personal.<br /><br />John

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-johnnybike+Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Nov 18 2005, 09:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->George,<br /><br />You made a post yesterday, which I am not going to quote, which was offensive, derogatory and very personal.<br /><br />I do not think the language or attitude is necessary or desired.<br /><br />Sure you seem to have a personal issue with Ranger but there is no need to cloud the whole thread with it.<br /><br />I am not doing a JR here and taking sides but I think that post went too far amd was much to personal.<br /><br />John <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I apologise for the offense caused - no excuses <b>and hopefully edited</b><br /><br />George

[[old] johnnybike]

Thank you George<br /><br />John

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Face it - you did not even get on the field let alone go to the game </td></tr></table><br /><br />Unless there are some explicit principles of selection, such as a statement that selection is based on the relative merits of the 2Ks rowed by the members of the development team, being on the development team has little to do with anything substantial, such as gettting to the field or going to the game, much less playing the game. It is just the "minor leagues."<br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I apologise for the offense caused - no excuses and hopefully edited </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /><br />You crack me up, George.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not buffeted by the whims of public taste, the non-whining artist’s draws her success from self-discipline, knowing that she touches God when she works. The rest of it is marketing, politics, and timing, elements that play their part in direct proportion to her dedication. The same grace for non-whining is available to the civilian as well. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Fine sentiments, but ones that give up the hope that public speech can effect social/institutional change. <br /><br />I am not sure that I am whining here. I am trying to effect social/institutional change. <br /><br />Why? <br /><br />First, I suppose, for personal reasons. I would like to participate in the (so-called!) contest for membership on the USIRT, but only if the process is fair and I am not excluded by fiat rather than judged by merit. <br /><br />Second, for more general reasons. I respect sports, and I think that C2 should, too; and sports have to do--essentially--with fairness. Fixed results, the mixing of "marketing, politics, and timing" with sports, IMHO, seriously undermines what sports is all about. If C2 wants to do this, then it is fine with me. But I would sure like to make it known if that is what they are doing.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />I don't think that C2 should undermine sports in order to use them to make money. If they are doing that, I would hope that customers who have the same commitment to sports that I do would turn away from their products and sponsorship.<br /><br />Sure, I was excluded from the 2003 USIRT. But this didn't stop me from going to Paris and rowing. Did I just sit at home and whine? No. I went to Paris, raced, and raced well: I won my race by 12 seconds. The cup is standing on a shelf in my living room.<br /><br />What is going on here is something altogether different from whining. <br /><br />This is the 4th estate, hard at work. The power of the pen.<br /><br />ranger<br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] ranger]

BTW, in 2003, I had a great trip to Paris (and London) for EIRC. I took my two youngest children, at that time, 15 and 17 years old, who had never been to Europe. I had never been to Paris. Many thanks to Roy Brook for picking us up at at the airport, showing us the sights, and putting us all up in London for a couple of days before flying over to Paris. Roy is a great host and a great guy, and staying with him in London made the trip especially "homey" for my children. I will be forever in his debt for his generous hospitality.<br /><br />Not much "whining" in these activities. Just life as usual.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] bmoore]

Rich,<br /><br />It appears that you're beating your head on the wall. If nothing you've said or done since 2003 has resolved your dispute, then you may want to consider changing your approach. From what I've read, your athletic abilities clearly qualified you to compete. Since that's the case, I'd look elsewhere to find what you need to change. Railing against the system isn't working. The quote below best expresses an opportunity to change something within yourself to get what you want.<br /><br />"When the...habit finally withers away and the focus becomes one’s work in gratitude and appreciation, the house of complaining airs out and becomes vacant of negativity. At this juncture, you come to realize that there is always plenty of room at the top."<br /><br />This forum gets you into a frenzy on this topic, which seems to be wasted energy. Continue on this path if you must, but I'd recommend that you let it go. (When my 2 year old son caught fireflies, he held on too tight, and squished the bugs. I showed him a gentle touch to keep the bugs alive. He held the next one just right for about 10 seconds before the 2 year old boyness took over and he squished it. And then he cried that he wanted another one. Don't be like him. Hold your prize with a light touch).

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-bmoore+Nov 18 2005, 09:30 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bmoore @ Nov 18 2005, 09:30 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Rich,<br /><br />It appears that you're beating your head on the wall.  If nothing you've said or done since 2003 has resolved your dispute, then you may want to consider changing your approach.  From what I've read, your athletic abilities clearly qualified you to compete.  Since that's the case, I'd look elsewhere to find what you need to change.  Railing against the system isn't working.  The quote below best expresses an opportunity to change something within yourself to get what you want.<br /><br />"When the...habit finally withers away and the focus becomes one’s work in gratitude and appreciation, the house of complaining airs out and becomes vacant of negativity. At this juncture, you come to realize that there is always plenty of room at the top."<br /><br />This forum gets you into a frenzy on this topic, which seems to be wasted energy.  Continue on this path if you must, but I'd recommend that you let it go.  (When my 2 year old son caught fireflies, he held on too tight, and squished the bugs.  I showed him a gentle touch to keep the bugs alive.  He held the next one just right for about 10 seconds before the 2 year old boyness took over and he squished it.  And then he cried that he wanted another one.  Don't be like him.  Hold your prize with a light touch). <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ahh Bill ... stop it ... I'm tearing up ...<br /><br />One way to do this would be to find a sponsor that was a competitor to C2. Now that would be a kick in the pants, ehh?<br /><br /><b><i><span style='font-family:Optima'>... he says as he slowly removes his tongue from his cheek ...</span></i></b>