Us Indoor Rowing Team Selection

[[old] joanvb]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 11 2005, 08:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 11 2005, 08:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Now stop whining and complaining and do something productive.  I know the W&C is the normal CA thing to do but buck the system and try.<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Paul, <br />I know the above post wasn't directed at me (or WAS it? ) , but since I'm a Californian, I thought I should add that the intent of my previous post in this thread was solely to state that in 2004 there was more than one category for which qualifying times appeared challenging. I have NO complaint with Concept 2, only appreciation and gratitude.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Nov 12 2005, 07:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Nov 12 2005, 07:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It does (mildly) amuse me that you've elected to question my ethics rather than, again ... as before, debate the facts </td></tr></table><br /><br />Your ethics are clear.<br /><br />And you are right that your ethics are not mine.<br /><br />You also seem to be right that most people here have your ethics.<br /><br />I guess C2 will be in good company!<br /><br />And I guess that's what you need to make money selling a product.<br /><br />Sad stuff.<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Rich:<br /><br />Again, you wish to put words in my mouth.<br /><br />I never suggested that my ethics are not yours ... or vice versa ... I never did anything but question why you would question my ethics.<br /><br />I never suggested that most people have my ethics ... nor do I care.<br /><br />-- Mark

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Nov 12 2005, 07:17 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Nov 12 2005, 07:17 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have seen <br />The old gods go<br />And the new gods come.<br /><br />Day by day<br />And year by year<br />The idols rise<br />And the idols fall.<br /><br />Today I worship the hammer. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Huh???

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-mpukita+Nov 12 2005, 12:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Nov 12 2005, 12:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You fail to realize that this is NOT a "national team" ... it's essentially a "Concept 2 Team" </td></tr></table><br /><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 12 2005, 01:00 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 12 2005, 01:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What does USIRT stand for?  [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Still waiting! <img src='http://www.d2ksoft.com/blog/images/smiles/whistle.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-joanvb+Nov 12 2005, 03:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(joanvb @ Nov 12 2005, 03:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 11 2005, 08:23 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 11 2005, 08:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Now stop whining and complaining and do something productive.  I know the W&C is the normal CA thing to do but buck the system and try.<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Paul, <br />I know the above post wasn't directed at me (or WAS it? ) , but since I'm a Californian, I thought I should add that the intent of my previous post in this thread was solely to state that in 2004 there was more than one category for which qualifying times appeared challenging. I have NO complaint with Concept 2, only appreciation and gratitude. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well Joan, to direct it at you, the W&C would be more like "Winning & Competing".<br /><br />Apologies to all Californians that are not whiney complainers. It's terrible that such a small protion of folks is made to look bad just because of the majority. <br />

[[old] joanvb]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 12 2005, 07:15 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 12 2005, 07:15 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Apologies to all Californians that are not whiney complainers.  It's terrible that such a small protion of folks is made to look bad just because of the majority.  <br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Very funny. Apology? Accepted ... (and thank you for the compliment not quoted here).<br /><br />Joan

[[old] kjgress]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 12 2005, 06:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 12 2005, 06:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 12 2005, 03:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 12 2005, 03:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What was the result of your 2005 EIRC 2k Trial Time?" </td></tr></table><br /><br />EIRC hasn't occurred yet, has it?<br /><br />You need to be on the "team", to get a trip to the EIRC.<br /><br />Rich wasn't picked by the selectors, to be on the USIRC "team" for the EIRC. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think that all Paul S was asking is did he submit a time for consideration. He couldn't be picked if he didn't give a time. <br /><br />BTW the coaches made the selections, not C2

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 12 2005, 08:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 12 2005, 08:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BTW the coaches made the selections, not C2 <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hmmm ... so that would suggest what ... that all of these coaches were just "pawns" of C2? Wow .... wonder how they do THAT? Ergs and brainwashing ... what a company!<br /><br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 12 2005, 04:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 12 2005, 04:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Nov 12 2005, 06:35 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Nov 12 2005, 06:35 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Nov 12 2005, 03:21 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Nov 12 2005, 03:21 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What was the result of your 2005 EIRC 2k Trial Time?" </td></tr></table><br /><br />EIRC hasn't occurred yet, has it?<br /><br />You need to be on the "team", to get a trip to the EIRC.<br /><br />Rich wasn't picked by the selectors, to be on the USIRC "team" for the EIRC. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I think that all Paul S was asking is did he submit a time for consideration. He couldn't be picked if he didn't give a time. <br /><br />BTW the coaches made the selections, not C2 <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes, thanks K. John of course tries as hard as he can to misunderstand what everyone else has no problem with.<br /><br />Obviously, "2005 EIRC Trial Time" = "C2 USIRT Trial time", in the context of this Thread, titled "USIRT Selection". <br /><br />Only an idiot would think that I was refering to a 2005 EIRC 2k Time. (notice the absence of the word "trial") <br />Maybe John has lost his ability to understand English, I think it's rarely spoken in <i>CAlico</i> anymore. <br /><br />The Editing that was done was to remove a word that someone (my guess would be a CA whineycrybaby) found offensive enough to file a complaint about me ("M-------ia"). If you are still offended, please let me know exactly why, some sensibilitties make no sense and I wish to only offend intentionally. <br /><br />Viva el Governator!

[[old] Bayko]

This is probably going to come off as a bit tepid, but.....<br /><br />CONGRATULATIONS to the 12 team members! Your spots on the team are all well-earned and deserved. Best wishes for continued success at Copenhagen.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Rick

[[old] Godfried]

<!--QuoteBegin-kjgress+Nov 12 2005, 05:13 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kjgress @ Nov 12 2005, 05:13 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> . . . . The goal is maybe not to set world records but to compete well . . . . [right] </td></tr></table><br />I hope they do. And I hope they get good competition too. <br /><br />So best wishes for <b>everyone </b>that competes at EIRC.

[[old] george nz]

I think it is interesting that Ranger has not complained about his non-selection for this years team - only the one in 2003 (tho he has done that countless times) - (not sure what JR is complaining about)<br /><br />I think he is not complaining because he knew that by not taking any part in the process or the 'team' (except getting his bio up in lights again and a nice avatar next to his name on the forum), if by some weird happenstance he was selected it would be a bigger injustice (possibly) than his non selection in the past - then what could he complain about.<br /><br />Also by doing everything he could to not be selected (no trials, no tests, continually bagging the selectors and C2), he was assured of not being faced with the prospect of being selected and then having to 'front' up and either deliver on the day or become a bigger laughing stock than he is.<br /><br />By the way Ranger you talk about tough targets, heck as I said earlier in the year the only way I would get a free trip is to 'break' the world record, not just get close.<br /><br />As to rowing 6:30 for 2004, you had already rowed 6:28 earlier with a crap stroke and less preparation so why was that going to be difficult. A year down the track you are throwing potential numbers round like 6:16 and 6:20 - maybe 6:30 looked hard because you had gone backwards and the 6:28 was an aberration - maybe you were a one race wonder - to this point in time we have seen nothing to prove otherwise as your next race was 4 seconds slower.<br /><br />George<br /><br />ps I cant wait for you to row another race, I still believe you have the physical ability to row faster than you ever have, but I dont think you have the heart. And if you do row and row slower we will forever hear the excuses<br /><br />

[[old] ranger]

At BIRC 2005, completing the registration process and finishing a 2K on your appointed erg at the appointed time in your division's race will qualify you for selection as the winner of that division.<br /><br /> <br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As to rowing 6:30 for 2004, you had already rowed 6:28 earlier with a crap stroke and less preparation so why was that going to be difficult. A year down the track you are throwing potential numbers round like 6:16 and 6:20 - maybe 6:30 looked hard because you had gone backwards and the 6:28 was an aberration - maybe you were a one race wonder - to this point in time we have seen nothing to prove otherwise as your next race was 4 seconds slower.<br /><br />George<br /><br />ps I cant wait for you to row another race, I still believe you have the physical ability to row faster than you ever have, but I dont think you have the heart. And if you do row and row slower we will forever hear the excuses </td></tr></table><br /><br />I have been explaining all along why I have not been racing or rowing as fast over set distances as I did a couple of years ago. I have changed my stroke so that I can also use it on the water in my 1x. I am now rowing at 105 df. instead of 205 df. I am using completely different mechanics, and I am generating power per stroke of a completely different sort (12-14 SPI rather tthan 8-10 SPI).<br /><br />This takes time to get used to.<br /><br />I have had to retrain myself.<br /><br />I am almost done with this process, I think. When I am ready again, I will race.<br /><br />There is no telling for sure, of course, but when I race again, I think I will be faster over all distances by a considerable margin.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Nov 13 2005, 04:19 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Nov 13 2005, 04:19 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->At BIRC 2005, completing the registration process and finishing a 2K on your appointed erg at the appointed time in your division's race will qualify you for selection as the winner of that division.<br /><br />   <br /><br />ranger[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />What a novel concept!