Dwayne: ?????

[old] chickenlegs · Post by **[old] chickenlegs** » January 14th, 2005, 5:08 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (John Rupp @ Jan 14 2005, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Chickenlegs, What you don't get, is that I don't CARE what you believe, or don't believe. I also don't, would not, and won't care if you or C2 "approves" of me breaking a world record. It would be low class if you didn't, but that is your problem not mine. Anyway I can kick Greene's butt over 10000 meters. Now if both you and he want to see this, you will need to make arrangements, with ME, and accommodate MY schedule. Then it depends on if you make it worth MY while, and all the arrangements are satisfactory, to ME.  </td></tr></table> john, we seem to agree on the irrelevance of what me or you or anybody else believes. personally, i enjoy competition - which again has nothing to do with belief. at the end of the race, it's about the time you pulled, not teh one you thought you were going to pull. i think you enjoy some competition too, based on your posting and on how you sign yourself on this forum.. by the way, i said 100 m not 10000 m. who cares if you can beat Greene over 10 km? now, if you can beat that runner from Morocco over 10 km...

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 7:13 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Futhermore: the only Public result that I could find of him: was at the BIRC 2002 </td></tr></table> Andreas, wasn't his 2004 2000mtr time (05:49.1) entered direct from a race? Just my 2p, sorry 2c on this forum

[old] Bayko · Post by **[old] Bayko** » January 14th, 2005, 8:16 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Dodsy1974 @ Jan 14 2005, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Futhermore: the only Public result that I could find of him: was at the BIRC 2002 </td></tr></table> Andreas, wasn't his 2004 2000mtr time (05:49.1) entered direct from a race? Just my 2p, sorry 2c on this forum  </td></tr></table> Actually no, even though I see that the rankings page lists it as such. (There are other errors there too. Graham Benton's time is listed as IND when in fact it was done at CRASH-B's, definitely a race) Dwayne did do one other race after that BIRC in 2002, and after breaking 6:00 for the first time. He can correct me if I'm inaccurate, but I believe that he did the 2003 Long Beach Erg Sprints in about 7:07. Rick

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 8:21 am

Ahhhh, my error. Musn't go believing everything I read Must be nice to be Dwayne or Ranger and get so much attention. They do say there's no such thing as bad publicity

[old] Bayko · Post by **[old] Bayko** » January 14th, 2005, 10:01 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Dodsy1974 @ Jan 14 2005, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Ahhhh, my error. Musn't go believing everything I read Must be nice to be Dwayne or Ranger and get so much attention. They do say there's no such thing as bad publicity  </td></tr></table> Wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said that "The only thing worse than being talked about, is NOT being talked about?" He probably would have loved the BIRC/ranger episode; at BIRC and afterwards, the most talked about person was someone who did not even compete . Rick

[old] Robbo · Post by **[old] Robbo** » January 14th, 2005, 10:18 am

Does Concept2 actually monitor any ranked logs? I see that a 15 year old girl from Florida has beaten everyone in the half marathon!

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 10:26 am

DOH

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 14th, 2005, 2:12 pm

I'm pretty sure that Dwayne metioned that he is concentrating now on working with his 2x partner toward the goal of winning at the 2005 Masters Worlds that will be coming up this summer in Canada. While Erg times are a fun diversion for rowers to make comparisons and talk a lot of "smack" about among each other, when you are sitting at the start line in a boat, in a little more than 3 minutes, you are going to find out if that Erg work was worth it or not. Ergs don't float, Chains don't slip, and boats can't be cheated. He has never come across as being "full of himself" as far as I can tell, but maybe that's all a matter of perspective, "If you can do it, it ain't bragg'in", though it may seem like it for those that find the performance "unbelievable" for whatever reason. Top erg performances may well be some of the most closely guarded secrets in elite rowing, no-one at the top of their game ever gives specifics, or obliterates their competition more than is required to win the race. Pain is the same for elite rowers and if they can win without suffering greatly they will do it, afterall it's the win that gets remembered, not the time. OTOH, you cannot "win" against the Erg, it is always there to provide whatever pain you are prepared to endure.

[old] DavidA · Post by **[old] DavidA** » January 14th, 2005, 2:42 pm

I thought that Dwayne's incredible 2 km time was witnessed by 2 indoor racing officials, which might be why it is listed as 'race' rather than 'ind'. David

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 14th, 2005, 2:46 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (chickenlegs @ Jan 14 2005, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> world record for 40-49 heavyweight men as posted on C2 website: 5:52.0 43 Pertti Karppinen H M FIN 2000 2000 race  </td></tr></table> Only because of the pettiness and vindictiveness of C2. Dwayne didn't want to wait 6 months and fly to take part in their local race, so they have found some excuse for not "approving" his record. However, his time was verified by a USRIT official, and at least 3 ? other witnesses. Other records have been "approved" with less scrutiny than Dwaynes; and not all "approved" records have been at Boston or Crash B events, nor should they be.

[old] german answer · Post by **[old] german answer** » January 14th, 2005, 3:05 pm

Correction: The time at the Long Beach Erg Sprint 2003: 7:00,8 (2k!)

[old] Bayko · Post by **[old] Bayko** » January 14th, 2005, 3:15 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (german answer @ Jan 14 2005, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Correction: The time at the Long Beach Erg Sprint 2003: 7:00,8 (2k!) </td></tr></table> I stand corrected. And I apologize for shortchanging him. My memory could use some improvement. Rick

[old] german answer · Post by **[old] german answer** » January 14th, 2005, 3:37 pm

Was the 5:49 from 2004 a race result or not?

[old] DavidA · Post by **[old] DavidA** » January 14th, 2005, 3:42 pm

I believe it was done with race officials observing, but was not against other ergers at the same time. (He might have been faster, as is common, if racing others.)

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 3:53 pm

Excellent! Just wanted to post to get me up to a 2k user

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