Dwayne: ?????

[old] Andreas · Post by **[old] Andreas** » January 13th, 2005, 4:02 pm

I came back from summer holliday last week(I 'm living in the southern hemisphere) I also thought I wasn't going to say anything anymore about Dwayne and his times claimed, but since he said that he is not going to go to Boston I decided to write again. I know there's a lot of support for Dwayne, but I relise that poeple like to believe in fairy tales. Here is what I dont understand:Dwayne must be one of the most PASIONATE indoor rowers in the world(just look at the honorbord where he is at the top, also rank in all the event for the past few years) Obviouslly he likes the acknowledgement, otherwise he would'nt have posted all that his doing on the web(we know that he doesnt like to toot his horn, but.....) If somebody is so Pasionate and his main goal is to break the world record, I just do not understand why he is not making use of the opportunities (BIRC, EURO-IRC and CRASH- to do what he wants to do. Previous Euro-IRC he was part of the US team but could compete because he apparently fell in the shower?????? He say that his reason is form(he is not in good enough form to do any of them...) I think that is a lot of "borish"(to use his own term) He did all those world class times from 13 Sept. - 29 Nov and his milige increced from after213 days till today 258days from 36255m/day to 36753m/day, and he said he is not in the form that he like himself to be in......"BORISH"and he is also rowing on water. Somebody with his ability and milige behind him, would be able to "fine tune" in 5weeks easely Also what does'nt make sense is that he consider the Masters in July now a priority????? Futhermore: the only Public result that I could find of him: was at the BIRC 2002 in a time of 7:24.9(Nov) ,but he has posted a time on 15 March 2002 of 6:01.5 He must have fallen of his "boat" at BIRC No offence to anybody else,BUT: 7:24.9 does'nt suggest any natural talent to end up at 5:47.1(beter than the two olympic athletes(Matthew's and James's times of 2004 BIRC) My conclusion: He is beter at tiping that rowing. Last thing: If He shows at Crash-B and wins, I will still be the first to congratulate Him

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 13th, 2005, 5:43 pm

I think you're better at tiping than typing. Really what business is it of yours where and when Dwayne or anyone else competes or does anything else. Answer: It is not your business at all. Whatever Dwayne decides to do is his concern. If I had the world record I would very likely not go to Boston or any of those other places either. My personal reason would be that I just didn't want to take the time and trouble to go there, however, not that I would need to explain or get your permission.

[old] Coach Gus · Post by **[old] Coach Gus** » January 13th, 2005, 7:09 pm

I think speculation about why you don't or didn't go to a certain competition, why you decided not to race even if you went, why you did worse than expected are just part of it when you are one of the elite athletes. It goes with the territory. If you don't want anybody to wonder then stop posting your times or talking about your accomplishments on the forum or anywhere else for that matter. If you're just doing it for yourself, then you don't need to let anyone else know you broke a world record. If you have a need to let people know then your ego also better be big enough to handle the interest that goes along with being the world record holder. To claim that others don't have a right to question motivation, decisions or performance because they haven't accomplished the same acheivements as a world record holder is a rather ridiculous assertion.

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 13th, 2005, 7:35 pm

Now see, lots of Irony there, but do you realize it?

[old] DIESEL · Post by **[old] DIESEL** » January 13th, 2005, 8:48 pm

Andreas - are you jealous? You obviously are. Now explain how he got on the US Indoor Team a couple of years back, with what you claim are "fabricated scores?" Here's a tip, hater boy, STFU. Or better yet, stop starting bullshit on this board with one of the nicest, most helpful guys on here and start training. Hard. Real hard. Maybe then you'll start to approach his times. Have a nice day, you hater a-hole. D

[old] gw1 · Post by **[old] gw1** » January 13th, 2005, 8:55 pm

The Australian Surf Rowers League website has a chat forum called the "Boxing Ring" i think we need one here GW

[old] chickenlegs · Post by **[old] chickenlegs** » January 14th, 2005, 1:13 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (John Rupp @ Jan 13 2005, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> If I had the world record I would very likely not go to Boston or any of those other places either. My personal reason would be that I just didn't want to take the time and trouble to go there, however, not that I would need to explain or get your permission.  </td></tr></table> John, you could only have the world record IF you did race in an official event (Boston or not). 'world records' done in you garage or backyard are nor even taken into consideration, not just in erging but in any sport in the world, by anyone half seroius about it. what is the point in claiming to run faster than Maurice Green (or whoever the present record holder is) over 100 m if you can't prove it? ANYBODY can claim ANYTHING. it's not what you SAY, it's what you DO. all the times claimed by Dwayne Adams (not just his 2000 m) are unbelievable. at 40 and training part time, he is (supposedly) faster than almost all olympic rowers at the peak of their performance. can you believe it? maybe. can anybody believe it? based on what i read on this forum, it seems so. but the veracity of a statement is in no way related to its degree of public acceptance. the earth is round and was round even a thousand years ago when just about everyone believed it flat.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 14th, 2005, 2:25 am

Chickenlegs, What you don't get, is that I don't CARE what you believe, or don't believe. I also don't, would not, and won't care if you or C2 "approves" of me breaking a world record. It would be low class if you didn't, but that is your problem not mine. Anyway I can kick Greene's butt over 10000 meters. Now if both you and he want to see this, you will need to make arrangements, with ME, and accommodate MY schedule. Then it depends on if you make it worth MY while, and all the arrangements are satisfactory, to ME.

[old] DIESEL · Post by **[old] DIESEL** » January 14th, 2005, 2:29 am

chickenlegs, yet another hater creeping out of the woodwork... so you don't think erging over 30K and lifting weights to boot EVERY DAY to be "full time training?" What bizarre universe do you live in? Sounds like a lot to me. How much do you put in each day? that might explain why you are slow and Dwayne is not. If Dwayne was a fraud as you say, why would C2 certify his WR, why would C2 name him to their Indoor Team - how did he manage to pull that one off? and finally why would Dwayne be stupid enough to even claim it? Sooner or later he would have to prove himself. Why would anyone risk such personal embarassment - and for what? Please explain to me how he's fooled everyone except you two jealous knuckleheads. My god you and Andreas have not only shown yourselves to have no class, and a bunch of jealous a-holes, but I question your intelligence as well. When you give me legitimate answers to the questions I have posed, then maybe I won't think you're a complete idiot. Until then, STFU, and take from Dwayne's example. Bust your ass, train hard, put in the work, and you'll be fast too.

[old] german answer · Post by **[old] german answer** » January 14th, 2005, 3:38 am

Well guys, I saw Dwaynes result of BIRC 2002 the first time, and my impression is: The person who rowed there has no erg talent. Maybe there is an injury or illness, but nothing else can lead a non injured person from this result to 5:47 in two years (Except a very good nutrition ). There is no outstanding anaerobic capacity - a race opening in a 90 sec. split (first 250 m) is poor, and the aerobic capacity is not better. See you in Boston Andreas. Jürgen

[old] neilb · Post by **[old] neilb** » January 14th, 2005, 4:00 am

The guy at the top of the mountain always takes flak; whether deserved or not. The times I do find hard to contemplate; not because I do not think that Dwayne has done them (that is for him and him alone) but because I know what effort I would need to put in to even get close to the foothills! If I was close to his times then I may be concerned more if my ego meant that I wanted to be number one, but I would hope that I would still focus on me and my training/commitment and use the public events to test myself against peers. If the results are not true then Dwayne is only affecting himself, not me and not you. If they are right then great, all respect to Dwayne. I will continue to row and train according to my plan and goals. For me the rankings give me an indication of how I am doing against peer group and some motivation to move up them. Whether Dwayne's times are true or not why not use them as a positive motivation. After all if they are wrong and result in you working harder and getting better who actually loses - not you.

[old] Slowboat · Post by **[old] Slowboat** » January 14th, 2005, 4:21 am

Hi, I have read Andreas's recent threads regarding Dwayne. Dwayne's records and achievements are truly outstanding, because of this they are naturally going to be scrutinised or challenged. Dwayne is the man to beat, and Andreas, who is also a remarkable athlete ( recent BIRC winner ) is one of the guys naturally wanting to take the crown or throw down the gauntlet. Obviously he is going to want to do this at a prestidgious event, i.e. a world wide arena. If Dwayne can't make one of these due to form, then now they have the oppurtunity of rowing online with RowPro, where all data is recorded into a listed rowfile. It is great to see healthy competive rivalry as long as it stays friendly and doesn't become too personal. Would finally like to congratulate both Andreas and Dwayne on remarkable times and achievements. Regards Paul.

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 4:47 am

All this makes for very interesting reading, especially when work is slow. May the smack continue 'til hometime

[old] chickenlegs · Post by **[old] chickenlegs** » January 14th, 2005, 4:50 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (DIESEL @ Jan 14 2005, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> chickenlegs, yet another hater creeping out of the woodwork... so you don't think erging over 30K and lifting weights to boot EVERY DAY to be "full time training?" What bizarre universe do you live in? Sounds like a lot to me. How much do you put in each day? that might explain why you are slow and Dwayne is not. If Dwayne was a fraud as you say, why would C2 certify his WR, why would C2 name him to their Indoor Team - how did he manage to pull that one off? and finally why would Dwayne be stupid enough to even claim it? Sooner or later he would have to prove himself. Why would anyone risk such personal embarassment - and for what? Please explain to me how he's fooled everyone except you two jealous knuckleheads. My god you and Andreas have not only shown yourselves to have no class, and a bunch of jealous a-holes, but I question your intelligence as well. When you give me legitimate answers to the questions I have posed, then maybe I won't think you're a complete idiot. Until then, STFU, and take from Dwayne's example. Bust your ass, train hard, put in the work, and you'll be fast too.  </td></tr></table> diesel, world record for 40-49 heavyweight men as posted on C2 website: 5:52.0 43 Pertti Karppinen H M FIN 2000 2000 race unless you meant the 30-39 world record.. re. training full time: national team rowers, especially in olympic years, train full time - that is row, row, row (and often lift weights too) and don't have jobs (governments provide funds). i have assumed that dwayne adams has a full time job - so he trains part time. re. me i put in about 1 hour a day. 6'17" on 2 km slow? maybe - but compared to who? yours? i don't know how dwayne got a free ticket to BIRC from C2, but i am curious about it too (maybe if C2bill reads this he can give us an answer). re. dwayne's motivations for posting astronomical times - i have no idea and i don't really care. this is the beauty of the net - the freedom to post what you want. regardless of what we think of eachother's views, we should be able to discuss them without having to resort to personal offenses (hater, knucklehead, a-hole, questioning intelligence, idiot).

[old] Dodsy1974 · Post by **[old] Dodsy1974** » January 14th, 2005, 4:56 am

[/QUOTE]regardless of what we think of eachother's views, we should be able to discuss them without having to resort to personal offenses (hater, knucklehead, a-hole, questioning intelligence, idiot). [QUOTE] Never a truer word said

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