Olympic Rowing Medals

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 7th, 2004, 9:46 am

If I've forgotten your country of choice, sorry. Just add in a comment. Row hard, row well. Dwayne

[old] Cran · Post by **[old] Cran** » July 7th, 2004, 11:21 am

Canada will win the medals for the stupidest rowing kit

[old] Ericr · Post by **[old] Ericr** » July 8th, 2004, 3:31 am

England should be Great Britain I think Looking at the World Cup standings I would place my money on Germany.

[old] c2bill · Post by **[old] c2bill** » July 8th, 2004, 4:36 pm

re england vs great britian. i've gotten in trouble for this myself. what is the difference, when should each be used - and is it polite to refer to 'brits'? or 'britons'? -bp "two countries divided by a common language"

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 9th, 2004, 10:24 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (c2bill @ Jul 8 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> re england vs great britian. i've gotten in trouble for this myself. what is the difference, when should each be used - and is it polite to refer to 'brits'? or 'britons'? -bp "two countries divided by a common language"  </td></tr></table> I believe the mistake was mine. GB goes to the Olympics as an Island, not as England. Three different countries (Scottland, Wales and England). Dwayne

[old] Janice · Post by **[old] Janice** » July 9th, 2004, 11:26 am

What about N. Ireland? Do their athletes go? Which team are they on?

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » July 9th, 2004, 2:41 pm

Doesn't N. Irland go with Irland???? I guess I'm on the wrong side of the pond to be answering these questions. Anyone from the UK want to help us here??? Dwayne

[old] Pete Marston · Post by **[old] Pete Marston** » July 9th, 2004, 2:54 pm

To be honest I'm not too sure either. Northern Ireland certainly doesn't go with Ireland, as that's a seperate country completely, whereas England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland makes up the United Kingdom. It's called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland though. At the Olympics they are Great Britain, so that would make us assume N.Ireland aren't included, but I really don't know? Unless at the olympics we are actually called Great Britain and Northern Ireland maybe, and they just tend to call us GB? Pete

[old] sockman71 · Post by **[old] sockman71** » July 9th, 2004, 9:41 pm

I'll be honest, I have no idea about geography across the pond. Even more disappointing is that I never really knew anything about rowing/erging until I started a training program on the C2 5 weeks ago. I'm addicted and am excited about watching rowing in the Olympics. Being from a small town in the US, I thought rowing was a "yuppie" sport for only the VERY wealthy. I never considered rowers "athletes". It's amazing what the last 5 weeks has done to change my perception of a rower. I only wish I would've known about rowing at an earlier age.

[old] tlsully · Post by **[old] tlsully** » July 9th, 2004, 10:41 pm

I never thought my college history class on Great Britain would ever come in handy, but here we are 10 years later discussing just that. England, Wales and Scotland make up Great Britain (Great Britain is the Island). If you add Northern Island then that is known as the United Kingdom.

[old] GeorgeD · Post by **[old] GeorgeD** » July 10th, 2004, 12:08 am

Go NZ .... womens double scull in the Swindell sisters and one sadly missing in the mens single scull who I think would have made a good fist at defending his title .. Mr Waddell

[old] Roland Baltutis · Post by **[old] Roland Baltutis** » July 11th, 2004, 12:27 am

Since Mr Adams has "botched up" the list of countries for the poll and our resident forum stats man (Ralph Earle) is still probably doing his sums and research, I'll take this opportunity to present some data. Going by the results in last years World Champs and the previous Olympics in Sydney 2000, Germany would have to be the favourite for most medals in Athens. Canada should be dropped from the poll list and replaced by Australia as they only won one rowing medal in Sydney 2000. USA needs to get over it's poor showing in past Olympics and try to replicate its World Championship results. The reason some countries do better in World Champ rowing than Olympic rowing is because there are 24 categories (excluding adaptive rowing) in the World Champs and only 14 in the Olympics. USA and Australia both have the greatest number of boats qualified for Athens. 12 out of a possible 14. Great Britain and Germany follow behind. Although past performance doesn't guarantee future medals, here are the stats for the last World Champs and Olympics: SYDNEY 2000 OLYMPICS - OVERALL ROWING MEDALS TALLY Germany 6, Australia 5, Italy 4, USA 3, Romania 3, France 3, Netherlands 3 and Great Britain 3 FISA WORLD ROWING CHAMPS MILAN 2003 TEAM TROPHY Points awarded to the top seven places. Germany 104, USA 63, Australia 62, Italy 58, Great Britain 56, Canada 51, Netherlands 28, France 25, Romania 24 and Denmark 24. A point of interest for USA C2 ergers is that Lisa Schlenker, who has held the World 2K erg record ( 6.56.7) since 2000, has qualified to represent USA in Womens LWT Double Sculls, at the age of 40. That's outstanding isn't it. If Mr Adams gets his World Indoor 2K record this year, he'd have to wait until he's 43 to get the same honour. Whereas the man he's trying to steal the record from, Pertti Karppinen, has 3 Olympic Gold medals. In the blue ribbon event, men's eights, USA finished a disappointing 4th recently in Lucerne and have consequently changed the crew for Athens. The Australians who took the silver medal in Sydney, have their boat loaded with Olympic medalists including 3 brothers (2 of which are twins). They have chosen to stay at home to train and miss the lead up races to Athens and are recording red hot times. Keep it smooth, keep it relaxed Roland Baltutis

[old] NedEustace · Post by **[old] NedEustace** » July 11th, 2004, 10:43 pm

The US will win the most medals but unfortunately not just because of the NATURAL talent

[old] Jim Barry · Post by **[old] Jim Barry** » July 12th, 2004, 12:10 pm

I thought Germany has 14 boats qualified (So says the Fisa website). Australia has 12 US has 12 GB has 11 Italy has 9 Canada has 7 Czec Republic has 7 China, Netherlands, France, Russia and Poland each have 6 boats. In total there are 202 boats qualified for 14 events and a possible 42 medals. I'm going to go with USA in the medal count. It may go against the odds, but I'll stick my heart out this year . Note the rowers in the US mens 4 (w/o cox) that walked on GB and Canada in the final 500m in Lucerne last month moved into the US 8.

[old] chickenlegs · Post by **[old] chickenlegs** » July 20th, 2004, 8:02 pm

betting against the germans in rowing is like betting against the kenyans in long distance running... unless, of course, the poll is about who each one of us would LIKE to win the most medals. England is part of the United Kingdom, like California is part of the USA and Bavaria is part of Germany. An administrative subdivision may be called a country, a state, a lander, a province or whatever else its inhabitants want. But in an international meetings, such as the United Nations, there is no representatives of England only or California only. Incidentally, Holland is part of the Nederlands. chickenlegs

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