What Times Are Needed To Be Recruited For College?

[[old] KM_Rower]

I am just curious. What are the LWT time requirements for a 2k and 6k to be recruited for a college team, not that I intend to be recruited. <br /><br />-thanks

[[old] KM_Rower]

Does anyone know?

[[old] starboardrigged1seat]

Try breaking 6:40 for 2k and 21:30 for 6k. Then win one of the following. Stotesbury. SRA's. US Rowing Youth Innvitational. Head of the Charles. Jr. Worlds. Worlds. The Olympics. You'll be doing alright.

[[old] rowpugsrow]

It all really depends on who you want to get recruited by. A 6:40 2k would get you into any one of the top level colleges, sub-7:00 would get some not-so-elite colleges talking to you.<br /><br />Starboardrigged, who do you row for? I'm just curious because I have seen a lot of your responses and tend to agree with what you say.

[[old] grimsby1]

i am 17, in grade 11 and have got a 6:49 2k, and a 22:25 6k i am hopin that since i have 2 years left, and since my crew is going after stotes this year, i will have a good chance i hope that other lightweights will show heavyweights that they aren't that much better

[[old] bsemaiktehr]

<!--QuoteBegin-grimsby1+Feb 20 2005, 06:48 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(grimsby1 @ Feb 20 2005, 06:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i am 17, in grade 11 and have got a 6:49 2k, and a 22:25 6k i am hopin that since i have 2 years left, and since my crew is going after stotes this year, i will have a good chance i hope that other lightweights will show heavyweights that they aren't that much better <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />hahahahah<br /><br />Lightweights trying to show heavyweights that they aren't much better?<br />If anything, I think that lightweights are better than heavyweights (and I'm a heavyweight!)<br /><br />My coach says he wishes that the heavyweights had <i>half</i> the technique of the lightweights... I think the technique can outweigh the erg time in most situations.<br /><br />I'm always depressed to see lightweights my age that can pull significantly faster than me...<br /><br />Just out of curiousity - what should a heavyweight shoot for on a 2k to get noticed by a college?

[[old] Almostflipped]

If you want to be noticed by a big school you will need to minimally break 6:30, preferably break 6:20. If you do not come from a traditionally fast program, you will want your erg score to be that much faster.

[[old] ranger]

Do any universities fill whole lightweight boats (e.g., 4s) with rowers who all have _superior_ 2K erg times (e.g., nearing or below 6:20)? Or would such boats only appear at the international level?<br /><br />ranger

[[old] starboardrigged1seat]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Feb 27 2005, 11:44 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Feb 27 2005, 11:44 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do any universities fill whole lightweight boats (e.g., 4s) with rowers who all have _superior_ 2K erg times (e.g., nearing or below 6:20)? Or would such boats only appear at the international level?<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />A top freshman lightweight 8 at the Sprints level could have as fast as a 6:28 average, with the top guys around 6:20. The ergs don't get much faster as you near the varsity level, with the biggest guns being anywhere from 6:17 to 6:24.

[[old] bsemaiktehr]

That is absolutely absurd.

[[old] starboardrigged1seat]

<!--QuoteBegin-bsemaiktehr+Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bsemaiktehr @ Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That is absolutely absurd. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />It's not. It might be hard for a heavyweight as slow as you to conceptualize people going that fast, but there is alot of speed within the better college lightweight teams. When I was your age, I was 158 pounds and pulled a 6:36. And I was about average on my high school crew team.<br />Edit: I also did a 30 minute test with a 22 rating cap and pulled 8300m, now that I look at my old results.

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin-starboardrigged1seat+Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(starboardrigged1seat @ Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-bsemaiktehr+Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bsemaiktehr @ Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That is absolutely absurd. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />It's not. It might be hard for a heavyweight as slow as you to conceptualize people going that fast, but there is alot of speed within the better college lightweight teams. When I was your age, I was 158 pounds and pulled a 6:36. And I was about average on my high school crew team.<br />Edit: I also did a 30 minute test with a 22 rating cap and pulled 8300m, now that I look at my old results. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />6:36 was an average lightweight time on your high school crew team? What were the _best_ three or four lightweight times?<br /><br />30min at 1:48 (or so) and 22 spm seems like a nice pull for a high school lightweight, BTW. Congrats on that. Nice power.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] Sirrowsalot]

<!--QuoteBegin-starboardrigged1seat+Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(starboardrigged1seat @ Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-bsemaiktehr+Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bsemaiktehr @ Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That is absolutely absurd. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />It's not. It might be hard for a heavyweight as slow as you to conceptualize people going that fast, but there is alot of speed within the better college lightweight teams. When I was your age, I was 158 pounds and pulled a 6:36. And I was about average on my high school crew team.<br />Edit: I also did a 30 minute test with a 22 rating cap and pulled 8300m, now that I look at my old results. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />That's incredibly impressive for a high school team. If 6:36 was really an average time, you guys should have all gone to the Crash-B's, you would have dominated the rankings. Even your average 6:36 would have put you close to the top 5 junior lightweight men in the world, and your above-average buddies would have medaled without a problem. In fact, forget the Crash-B's, you guys should have all been on the junior national team.<br /><a href='http://www.crash-b.org/cb2005/results/event05-lwt.html' target='_blank'>http://www.crash-b.org/cb2005/results/e ... wt.html</a>

[[old] starboardrigged1seat]

<!--QuoteBegin-Sirrowsalot+Feb 28 2005, 11:09 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Sirrowsalot @ Feb 28 2005, 11:09 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-starboardrigged1seat+Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(starboardrigged1seat @ Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-bsemaiktehr+Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bsemaiktehr @ Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That is absolutely absurd. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />It's not. It might be hard for a heavyweight as slow as you to conceptualize people going that fast, but there is alot of speed within the better college lightweight teams. When I was your age, I was 158 pounds and pulled a 6:36. And I was about average on my high school crew team.<br />Edit: I also did a 30 minute test with a 22 rating cap and pulled 8300m, now that I look at my old results. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />That's incredibly impressive for a high school team. If 6:36 was really an average time, you guys should have all gone to the Crash-B's, you would have dominated the rankings. Even your average 6:36 would have put you close to the top 5 junior lightweight men in the world, and your above-average buddies would have medaled without a problem. In fact, forget the Crash-B's, you guys should have all been on the junior national team.<br /><a href='http://www.crash-b.org/cb2005/results/event05-lwt.html' target='_blank'>http://www.crash-b.org/cb2005/results/e ... wt.html</a> <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I was a light heavyweight rowing with other heavyweights for those two years. 6:36 is an extremely reasonable average for a heavyweight high school crew. And some of us did go to CRASH-B's every year. Others swim during the winter, others train on their own. For the record, one of my teammates did go to Selection Camp that summer, and we medaled at every one of our championship races that spring, winning most of our races. What did you do last year?<br />In addition, it is not uncommon for an incoming freshman class at a DI lightweight program to have everyone between 6:45 and 6:30, based on times they pulled in their senior year of high school. I don't see why this is such a big deal. If you don't like these scores, sack up and pull some better ones.<br /><br />Edit: While the top 3% of lets say the competitive lightweight jr rowers in the "world" go, attendance at CRASH-B's is nowhere indicative of the rowing world. There are plenty of internationals that don't bother showing up, plenty of West Coast kids that don't show up (unless they have a good shot at winning), plenty of New England school kids who were doing other sports during the winter. Look at the results from Junior Worlds and Under 23's...do you think that you're seeing nearly all of those athletes here?

[[old] starboardrigged1seat]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Feb 28 2005, 10:15 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Feb 28 2005, 10:15 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-starboardrigged1seat+Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(starboardrigged1seat @ Feb 27 2005, 06:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-bsemaiktehr+Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(bsemaiktehr @ Feb 27 2005, 04:37 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That is absolutely absurd. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />It's not. It might be hard for a heavyweight as slow as you to conceptualize people going that fast, but there is alot of speed within the better college lightweight teams. When I was your age, I was 158 pounds and pulled a 6:36. And I was about average on my high school crew team.<br />Edit: I also did a 30 minute test with a 22 rating cap and pulled 8300m, now that I look at my old results. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />6:36 was an average lightweight time on your high school crew team? What were the _best_ three or four lightweight times?<br /><br />30min at 1:48 (or so) and 22 spm seems like a nice pull for a high school lightweight, BTW. Congrats on that. Nice power.<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks, ranger. 6:36 was an average 2k time for my heavyweight 8 in high school. I was just kind of small, that's all. The other lightweights were all within a second or two of each other, and they're rowing lightweight now, but rowed lightweight with me in high school.<br />