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Post by D6K9Cop » April 14th, 2014, 11:56 am

Im sorry guys i had hoped to make 200k, but i have made my 150K. Wife was put in hospital last wednesday. Grabbing meters when i can...300+K behind Canada, hopefully we can reel them in...

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Post by CONLEJM » April 14th, 2014, 1:25 pm

David, I hope you recuperate back to 100% soon. Take it slow and easy in the meantime!

D6K9Cop, I hope your wife gets better and back home soon also! There's nothing worse than when a loved one is hurting.

My issue pales in comparison to these guys' situation, but it still prevents me from rowing. It sometimes feels like a pinched nerve, other times like a pulled muscle. On the left side of my middle back. I used to get these all the time. It is minor, not bad enough to see the doctor, but I know if I push it, it will get really bad. It might even be a bruised rib, but I cannot remember doing anything to bruise it. I am probably out for another week at this rate.

Anyway, good luck to the rest of you all as we seemingly limp across the finish like this year! :shock: :lol:

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Post by Izzzmeister » April 14th, 2014, 2:00 pm

Adding my tale of woe here (without mentioning my bursitis-swollen elbow):
Sorry for not making it to my goal – or even near it. And that, after I asked you to put out a little extra this time.
Part of it was losing a number of days. Instead of my New Yawk trip being a 2 day fly-in/fly-out experience, we ended up driving, then spending 3 days in New York & New Jersey. That knocked out 4 or 5 days instead of 2. Then, I didn’t realize that Passover & Overtax would both be on the final day of the Challenge, together with all the extra preparation each needs.
But the biggest part was likely the fact that 3 weeks before the Challenge, I switched from a 2 on/1 off/2 on/2off week (usually 3 rows, one resistance training session) to a 5 on/2 off week in order to slap on a few pounds of muscle. That has tended to work out to 3 rows, 2 grueling powerlifting-style resistance training sessions, 1 tough bodyweight exercise session plus body squats/push-ups/pull-ups interspersed throughout the week. Part of the idea was not to give myself enough time to recover until I was exhausted, then take 48-60 hours off from even a push-up, so that my body grabs all the recovery it can get.
While I’ve seen nice results (gains in strength, growth in thighs, chest & arms), it has affected my rowing negatively in a few ways. Firstly, my fingers & wrists hurt all the time, so I’m temporarily rowing a little more gingerly. Secondly, with the resistance training depleting some of the glycogen in my muscles, I tire out on the long rows at 50 minutes, though I’ll usually push myself to an hour. I usually tire at an hour, then push to 70 minutes or even an HM. That’s why you’ve seen 16Ks and 18Ks as my long rows, instead of 21Ks & 23Ks. Hard to average 10K a day when you tire out at 16K, and you only row a few times a week. (I do expect the extra strength to help my speed going forward, though.)
I did pull a few meters this morning just to get myself above 192K, so at least I’d average 6K per day for the 32 days of the challenge…

Row on!
Cap’n Izzz

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Post by glenmbaker » April 14th, 2014, 2:46 pm

For the other couple of people who do OTW (and for those who just enjoy tales of aquatic pain), here's my report from the weekend's regatta where I rowed 3 seat in a 4+:

..glen

So the 12th of April rolls around, which just happens to be my son's 17th birthday. How does a good father celebrate? Well of course the obvious answer is to desert the family and drive 2.5 hours away to camp at Dexter Lake while competing in the Covered Bridge Regatta.

I had simple goals for this regatta, and anybody who's read my descriptions of prior regattas will hopefully understand. The goals were:

1. Finish the race with no drama.
2. See goal #1.

This time there were no excuses. There was no biblical weather (in fact it was darn near perfect). There were no clothing malfunctions. We'd actually managed to practice together as a complete crew (in the 4+) once before the race. We were actually set to perform well. The only limitations in this race were going to be self imposed.

Rowing races come in a couple basic varieties. There are long distance races called "head races" where, despite the name, you do not row head-to-head against your competitors. Rather, the starts are staggered and each boat is timed. The eventual winner is determined by overall time and (in the case of masters competitions) an age handicap. My prior two races had been head races.

Then there are sprints. Several lanes of boats lined up together racing in close proximity down the course. It's a different beast. Short distance (1 to 2 kilometers) which means it's over in something between 3 and 4 minutes (for a 1k course). Now how hard could that possibly be? 4 minutes? You can't make a decent cup of coffee in 4 minutes. "Hey barista...you start grinding the beans now, we'll see you at the other end of the course and try not to make us wait too long for our lattes OK?"

Really...4 minutes. You can't even call it a walk in the park because you couldn't get TO the park in that time. It's less than half of a normal snooze-button cycle on an alarm clock. If I keep writing and don't bore you to sleep, it's hardly longer than it will take you to read this thing.

In other words, 4 minutes is for-freaking-ever. It's the longest time you can possibly imagine.

You see, rowing is non causal. The laws of physics, space, time, and pretty much any other law you can think of simply don't apply. This is doubly true when you've never done a sprint before and have absolutely no concept whatsoever of how to properly pace yourself through the race. Rowers have catchy little phrases for this like "fly and die" or "one and done" or some other such pithy offerings.

We epitomized all of the catch phrases. We came off the line in a flurry of uncontrolled enthusiasm and managed to prove that our cox was actually sugar coating it when she had predicted that our start would be "ugly". Ugly doesn't describe our start. I suspect that we may have done something that will cause both Roget and Webster to go huddling back to their word laboratories in search of a new adjective.

Be that as it may, we did manage to actually make the boat start moving. Now here's the thing: the way you're supposed to start is that you take some short quick strokes called fractionals to get the boat going. Then you do some very high rate strokes to continue the acceleration. Finally you do this massive settle thing where you drop the rate down significantly to something you can sustain.

So there we were, 15 strokes into our high rate with our cox saying in a very demanding tone "SETTLE" and what do we do? We keep rowing of course...stupid cox, telling us to slow down when we're just starting the race? Hey, sorry to break it to you cox but we've got boats right next to us and we need to beat those guys for some reason, and why should we listen to you?

It turns out, there's a reason to listen to the cox. The cox has done this a few times before. And despite some of the things that come out of the cox's mouth, she's NOT going to actually personally ensure that we can never bear children, she's actually trying to get us to perform at our peak. Like I said...stupid cox!

So the boat is flying down the course and the cox is saying something about other boats and making seats, or losing seats, or some other drivel about upholstery. Really? Interior decorating when we're busy trying to row? What do they teach these people? Meanwhile the little buoys are going buy and the glycogen is pouring out of every cell in our bodies at an alarming rate...and we're not even half way there yet.

Here's where that whole time thing comes into play. We're 2 minutes into the race and I'm done. I mean really done. Nothing left, I've essentially dumped every bit of stored energy onto the oar handle and we're a bit over half way down the course. And now the cox calls for a power 10: 10 strokes where we're going to actually pick up the power. And we do it. Never mind that we don't have the energy, we do it anyway...and time slows down.

The focus narrows. All that's left in life is a growing incredible pain and this annoying voice that says "Get your f-ing eyes back in the boat RIGHT NOW" which makes me think "who's stupid enough to look out of the boat during a race,..thank god I never do that!"

And after an eternity, the buoys turn red signaling 250 meters to go. That's right, we're only 75% through the race and now it's just about time for our final sprint. And time slows down again. People marry and die, children grow and leave the nest, nations rise and fall, and all the time there's this heartbeat in the background that is the "clunk" of the oars as we complete a stroke and feather the blades.

Meanwhile the cox is telling us to pick it up. And somehow we do...or at least we think we do but at this point merely completing each stroke is an accomplishment worth celebrating.

Finally we cross the finish line. Not quite in last place. And the cox looks at us and says "Glen if you ever look out of my boat again I will personally <insert comment involving removal of some rather personal pieces of anatomy>!" What?? I was the one who had looked out of the boat?? I'm going to plead complete lack of brain function due to inadequate supply of oxygen and glucose, but one thing's for sure...that will NEVER happen again (because I'm rather fond of those parts of my body and trust me, she'll do it!)

Somehow we manage to turn the boat around, row it back to shore, and then just for fun pick it up and carry it across two state lines to where our trailer is parked. At that point my body says "hey brain...if you don't mind we're going to wander over here, cough up a gut, and dry heave for a bit...OK?"

A few Gatorades later everything starts to return to normal. I can actually phrase complete sentences in my head and come close to getting them out of my mouth (which for me is actually not all that unusual). And then the coach says "OK, it's time to start getting ready for the next race".

And it's just too much fun to put into words. The effort, the pain, the cox's threats. They're all just part of something that for some unknown reason just works and makes you want to go back, do it again, but do it better.

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Post by Hummingbird » April 15th, 2014, 2:00 am

glenmbaker wrote:For the other couple of people who do OTW (and for those who just enjoy tales of aquatic pain), here's my report from the weekend's regatta where I rowed 3 seat in a 4+:

(much deleted).
Absolutely hilarious, Glen! Thanks for the effort of writing it all down; I'll look forward to your next race.

Heather.

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Post by Hummingbird » April 15th, 2014, 2:08 am

dpw4812 wrote:It has been a long hard time, I was out for surgery on my right calf. .......
So sorry to hear about your injuries and surgery, David; and here I was waiting for you to enter 500 k for the WEC. I guess I don't need to add to all the other comments about please not blowing all the good work your body does in healing itself by trying to work through the pain because some pains really mean 'sit down and do nothing', do I? Good. So I won't. You're still top dog!

Heather.

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Post by CONLEJM » April 15th, 2014, 6:23 am

Heather the Hummingbird, it is really good to see you putting up the big numbers again! Keep up the great rowing!

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Post by Bobbie_Zee » April 15th, 2014, 8:42 am

Happy April 15th! You know you do alot of rowing when your first waking thought is "Final day of WEC! Wonder how many km I can log before midnight?" My second thought was: "I finished my taxes (last night) with 28 hours to spare!" Whoooo hoooo!"

LOVED the OTW story. Here's to spring, and hoping everyone heals.

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Post by damselfly » April 15th, 2014, 11:20 am

All hands on deck! Our intrepid Cap'n is on shore leave for a while attending Cap'n'ing conferences, keeping appointments with diction coaches to perfect his pronunciation of "Arrrrrr", and wrapping up his workshop on the proper technique with the cat o' ninetails! Meanwhile, a fit and fabulous 12 of 90 members (13%) logged 97,723 total meters Monday!

Milestones achieved:
Cindy R accrued 600K, and Brent C surmounted 100K!!

Approaching milestones:
Neil Q is driving for 2M (-20,000m), Heather R is moving towards 1.7M (-32,000m), Dana H is leading Lisa H in pursuit of 1M (-8,000m and -38,575m). Row strong!

Posted Meters:
Heather R - 20,000 Smokin'!
Dana H - 10,000 Next row could do it!
Neil Q - 10,000 Steady on!
J. K - 8,518 Ineffable!
Lisa H - 8,088 Eights are great!
Cindy R - 8,027 Two-fer!
Lee C - 8,014 Four in a row!
Bobbie Z - 7,500 What a season!
Mark St - 7,159 Looking good!
Brent C - 6,000 Two of three!
John S - 3,743 Quickie!
Yisroel H - 674 Methinks I caught him between rows... :P

-- Lisa

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Post by damselfly » April 15th, 2014, 11:23 am

Last day of the challenge, team! How are you doing on your goals?? We're still holding 14th, but those wily Canadians have somehow surged ahead. Anyone out there have any unreported meters to load up? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? 19 of 62 members (31%) logged 163,525 total meters Monday!

Posted Meters:
Lee C - 8,014
Brent C - 6,000
Douglas D - 15,513
Monica D - 10,195
Lisa H - 8,088

Dana H - 10,000
Yisroel H - 674
Teresa H - 6,100
J. K - 8,518
Kate L - 5,016

Dave M - 6,796
Heather R - 20,000
Cindy R - 8,027
Diane R - 5,015
John S - 3,743

Mark St - 7,159
Lee W - 19,821
John W - 7,346
Bobbie Z - 7,500


Challenge Goals - Day 31 of 32 (96.9%):
Ron M - 2,012 of 1,000 (201.2%)
Bobbie Z - 309,000 of 275,000 (112.4%)
Lisa H - 134,934 of 125,000 (107.9%)
Gary G - 238,486 of 225,000 (106.0%)
Heather R - 420,600 of 400,000 (105.2%)
Mark St - 150,406 of 150,000 (100.3%)

Ken C - 112,037 of 150,000 (74.7%)
Jim C - 222,000 of 300,000 (74.0%)
John B - 176,685 of 250,000 (70.7%)
Kristin C - 101,923 of 150,000 (67.9%)
Yisroel H - 192,488 of 310,000 (62.1%)
Keith J - 57,688 of 100,000 (57.7%)
Destin H - 21,047 of 100,000 (21.0%)
Tara R - 0 of 100,000 (0.0%)


Milestones achieved:
Teresa H hit 150K, Mark St hit 150K, Dana H hit 100K!!
-- Lisa

Try not! Do, or do not! There is no "try". -- Yoda

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Post by johnb » April 15th, 2014, 1:59 pm

Hey,

I've fallen off the rowing a bit of late, so I won't make my planned WEC goal. But I will get back on it and will still work yo hit my goal for shortened 2013-2014 season (9 months) of 1.5 million meters. Looking forward to the next season already and hope to get 2 million meters in a full year.

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Post by Hummingbird » April 15th, 2014, 2:50 pm

CONLEJM wrote:Heather the Hummingbird, it is really good to see you putting up the big numbers again! Keep up the great rowing!
Thank you for the encouragement Jim. I was sorry to read about your nerve/muscle pain; whatever it is, it sounds like you're listening to your body...or perhaps you don't have a choice...as in it hurts to breathe etc. Ouch ouch ouch. I've had my share of pain in the past two years, and I'm definitely done with it. Yuck!

But talking of big numbers, I have exactly 32 k to row and I'll hit my 10 million lifetime metres. Yay! A sweatshirt, just in time for summer!

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Post by damselfly » April 15th, 2014, 4:12 pm

Hummingbird wrote:
CONLEJM wrote:Heather the Hummingbird, it is really good to see you putting up the big numbers again! Keep up the great rowing!
Thank you for the encouragement Jim. I was sorry to read about your nerve/muscle pain; whatever it is, it sounds like you're listening to your body...or perhaps you don't have a choice...as in it hurts to breathe etc. Ouch ouch ouch. I've had my share of pain in the past two years, and I'm definitely done with it. Yuck!

But talking of big numbers, I have exactly 32 k to row and I'll hit my 10 million lifetime metres. Yay! A sweatshirt, just in time for summer!
Awesomeness!!! Congratulations in advance!!
-- Lisa

Try not! Do, or do not! There is no "try". -- Yoda

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Post by damselfly » April 16th, 2014, 10:48 am

All hands on deck, taxing over-taxed muscles but keeping in motion to avoid the taxi-driving taxidermists!! 13 of 90 members (14%) logged 113,447 total meters Tuesday!

Milestones achieved:
Dana H rowed by 1 MILLION!! Woot!!

Approaching milestones:
David W is striving to reach 5.5M (-13,591m), Greg H is speeding towards 2.1M (-21,211m), Neil Q is steaming towards 2M (-10,000m), Heather R is zooming towards 1.7M (-12,000m), Lisa H is paddling towards 1M (-33,556m), and Kevin K is gliding towards 900K (-31,971m)

Posted Meters:
Heather R - 20,000 Fit as a fiddle!
David W - 15,534 Yay!!
Greg H - 12,997 Avoiding 13!
Neil Q - 10,000 Solid!
J. K - 8,540 Incomparable!
Bobbie Z - 8,000 Gearing up for next year already!
Dana H - 8,000 Congratulations! B)
Matthew R - 7,527 Sweet!
Lisa H - 5,019 "Rescue Me"
Kevin K - 5,000 Causing Mud Madness flashbacks...
David R - 5,000 Nice!
John B - 4,445 Strategizing for 2015 domination!
John S - 3,385 Can't complain!

-- Lisa

Try not! Do, or do not! There is no "try". -- Yoda

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Post by damselfly » April 16th, 2014, 10:50 am

D6K9Cop wrote:Im sorry guys i had hoped to make 200k, but i have made my 150K. Wife was put in hospital last wednesday. Grabbing meters when i can...300+K behind Canada, hopefully we can reel them in...
Mark, I'm hoping your wife is doing well... My thoughts are with you.
-- Lisa

Try not! Do, or do not! There is no "try". -- Yoda

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