TimbukTOO Team Room

[Izzzmeister]

All hands on deck, ready to finish the season strong! 11 of 87 members (13%) logged 91,692 total meters Sunday!

Milestones achieved: Jack F surpassed 800K, while David R drubbed 300K!!
Approaching milestones: Yisroel H in reach of 2 MIL (-13,611m), Bobbie Z is approaching 1.7M (-16,910m),Heather R quite near 1.2M (-5,100m) while Gary G seeks 1.1M (-29,234m)!

Posted Meters:
Heather R – 15,000 Hums to the top!
Yisroel H – 13,166 Couldn't push further...
Bobbie Z – 12,000 Another biggie!
Andy I – 11,501 Three meaty rows in 4 days!
Ken C – 10,000 Mudding like mad!

David R – 6,500 Seven in a row! All count for the March challenge!
Jack F – 5,272 Making the mudder into fodder!
Kristin C – 5,000 So consistent!
Lisa H – 5,000 Eight 5Ks in a row!
John B – 5,000 Will you have enough 5Ks?
Gary G – 3,253 Solid!

[Izzzmeister]

Excellent 5k row tonight. Kept my stroke rate down in the mid to low 20's, mostly between 23-26 SPM and started really focusing on a more powerful stroke, followed by a more measured recovery. I still haven't beat my best time yet, but I am approaching it. About 25 seconds to go to beat my best frenetic 40 SPM effort, but I see the progress just 10 days into my effort. Once the World Erg challenge starts I plan to step up my distances on at least half my rows. Interspersing some 10k rows in with my 5k I hope to contribute 200k to the teams effort. So, that is my official projection LISA, Put me down for 200k!

Yes! Glad you took the guys' advice to heart! Since rowing is so much more vigorous than most endurance exercises, the slower stroke rate is supposed to give you a "rest" of a second or two between strokes. This is especially true of the very strong rowers who will do a powerful stroke in a second or less, then get a second to a second and a half where they literally relax as they ride the rail forward.
Personally, I prefer the smooth strokes that flow into each other (almost all the Olympic women, less than half the men row this way), so my 28-29 spm's (strokes per minute) are very, very consistent, and the diminished rest time makes that each stroke doesn't need as much power either, so I get only 9.1 - 9.4 mps (meters per stroke).
Glad you're leaving less of your power on the table, hopefully you're lengthening your stroke (without lunging forward at the catch, or losing balance at the back when you need to begin your recovery), and using your legs and body more, arms only at the end of the stroke...

[Izzzmeister]

Wow, I hit 2 million (in 128:52:21, which is 1:55.9/500m) for the 4th year in a row!

The past 3 years, I topped 2.5MM. Right now, it looks more likely that I'll end up with 2.35MM or 2.4MM, but I'll give it the old college try... Next stop, 12MM lifetime, 241K to go...

[damselfly]

Excellent 5k row tonight. Kept my stroke rate down in the mid to low 20's, mostly between 23-26 SPM and started really focusing on a more powerful stroke, followed by a more measured recovery. I still haven't beat my best time yet, but I am approaching it. About 25 seconds to go to beat my best frenetic 40 SPM effort, but I see the progress just 10 days into my effort. Once the World Erg challenge starts I plan to step up my distances on at least half my rows. Interspersing some 10k rows in with my 5k I hope to contribute 200k to the teams effort. So, that is my official projection LISA, Put me down for 200k!

I will John...

No meter capture tonight. C2 changed the page layout and there's an issue and I'm too tired to deal with it tonight. So there will probably be combined Monday/Tuesday reporting.

[CONLEJM]

Just bested my 6K SB for the season by over 34 seconds, moving me from #33 to #13, from 92nd percentile to 97th! 21:30.0, or 1:49 per 500m! Tired & late... Great weekend, everybody!

Sorry for the bad math. 21:30 for a 6K is actually 1:47.5...

Cap'n, you inspired me to pull a 6K in 21:27.9 yesterday, which is a 1:47.3/500 pace according to the logbook. I suppose that is an SB for me, but nowhere near the 20:58.8 I pulled last year (a 1:44.9/500 pace).

Makes me wonder if I should start training for speed again.

[Bobbie_Zee]

Thanks for helpful conversation on lower stroke rate, recovery. My natural cadence seems to be about 24 s/m (what I fall into when I'm not thinking about it). A fluid stroke. Sometimes, I concentrate on slowing it down, to about 20 s/m--aiming for a more powerful stroke, longer recovery. Counter-intuitively, my heart rate always is higher with the slower/harder stroke. There was a guy on the next rower today averaging about 16 s/m. It's awkward for me to go that slowly. But I'm all about the distance, less about the speed.

After two weeks of goofing off on white sand beaches and snorkeling in turquoise waters, my goal is to finish this season with 2MM. I think I'm at 1.7MM thus far. So, Lisa, put me down for 275K for the team challenge!

Whoever suggested reading "Boys in the Boat" about the Hitler-era Olympic crew team from UWash--it was very interesting--both the history aspect, as well as the rowing. Read it on my kindle over vacay!

--Bobbie

[johnb]

Wow, I hit 2 million (in 128:52:21, which is 1:55.9/500m) for the 4th year in a row!

The past 3 years, I topped 2.5MM. Right now, it looks more likely that I'll end up with 2.35MM or 2.4MM, but I'll give it the old college try... Next stop, 12MM lifetime, 241K to go...

Way to go! My goal for the year is 1.5 million, but I only started rowing and logging meters August 1st. I hope to give the team a solid 2m next year.

Thanks for your input on stroke rate too.

Bobby mentioned heart rate, I noticed I was really pumping after my last 5k at around 24-25...I realize I was previously stealing from my power and thrust in order to do a faster recovery. Not a sound approach.

[johnb]

I will John...

No meter capture tonight. C2 changed the page layout and there's an issue and I'm too tired to deal with it tonight. So there will probably be combined Monday/Tuesday reporting.

No worries Lisa! I am thrilled with how great you guys keep up with this! Props to you and Izzy! Hope you did see my 200K projection for the team challenge. Happy Erging All!!!

[Cyclingman1]

Whoever suggested reading "Boys in the Boat" about the Hitler-era Olympic crew team from UWash--it was very interesting--both the history aspect, as well as the rowing.

Nov 19, 2013. Rowing books are going to have different appeal to different people based on several criteria. For me, the Ordway book, ROW DAILY, BREATHE DEEPER, is a book that attempts to motivate, to encourage the beginning, non-athletic rower. It leaves unanswered some basic questions. I could see someone growing past it.

ROWING FASTER is a series of short, highly technical articles. Personally, the book is frustrating because of the lack of complete treatment of topics. Not sure how someone uses the book.

Flood's COMPLETE GUIDE TO INDOOR ROWING is a pretty good introduction.

Other good rowing books would be BOYS IN THE BOAT, THE AMATEURS, & ASSAULT ON LAKE CASITAS.

FWIIW, I have reviewed all of those books on Amazon under J. Grattan

[ronmardix]

No meter capture tonight. C2 changed the page layout and there's an issue and I'm too tired to deal with it tonight. So there will probably be combined Monday/Tuesday reporting.

Does C2 have an API for our logs, or are you extracting HTML data from the team page?

[damselfly]

No meter capture tonight. C2 changed the page layout and there's an issue and I'm too tired to deal with it tonight. So there will probably be combined Monday/Tuesday reporting.

Does C2 have an API for our logs, or are you extracting HTML data from the team page?

Parsing HTML old-school. I never thought to look for an API. Quick googling shows they have an SDK to talk to the PM, but nothing obvious to talk to the log database.

[Citroen]

No meter capture tonight. C2 changed the page layout and there's an issue and I'm too tired to deal with it tonight. So there will probably be combined Monday/Tuesday reporting.

Does C2 have an API for our logs, or are you extracting HTML data from the team page?

Parsing HTML old-school. I never thought to look for an API. Quick googling shows they have an SDK to talk to the PM, but nothing obvious to talk to the log database.

I parse the HTML using a Perl program. It stuffs what I get in a MySQL database.
If you want my code just ask.

[damselfly]

Parsing HTML old-school. I never thought to look for an API. Quick googling shows they have an SDK to talk to the PM, but nothing obvious to talk to the log database.

I parse the HTML using a Perl program. It stuffs what I get in a MySQL database.
If you want my code just ask.

Thanks Citroen. I have it implemented in .Net using MS SQL. Added code to eliminate HTML comments (which C2 added to mask the holiday challenge column this time instead of just eliminating it) and everything is hunky dory now.

[damselfly]

OK PEOPLE!! Time to set WEC goals! I've got John B, Bobbie Z, and Ron M down. And I remember Izzy mumbling something about 325, I think... And I'm down for 125k.

Step right up, step right up, and set your goals today! Post 'em here and post 'em LARGE! Multiples of 1k only please.

[D6K9Cop]

Lisa put me down for 150K for a start...