Russian Kettlebells

[old] The Dude Abides · Post by **[old] The Dude Abides** » July 20th, 2005, 8:56 pm

anyone use them in addition to their concept2?

[old] Xeno · Post by **[old] Xeno** » July 20th, 2005, 11:49 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(The Dude Abides @ Jul 20 2005, 07:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>anyone use them in addition to their concept2? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I am going to have to look them up on the internet. You are the fifth person who speaks about them.<br />XENO

[old] Cayenne · Post by **[old] Cayenne** » July 21st, 2005, 12:06 am

Dude Abides, ( "I don't know about you, but I take comfort in knowing that..." ) <br />I have used KBs for about 2 years. They are a "gym on a handle," literally !<br /><br />Xeno, it's hard for me to imagine you not loving them. IMHO, have a session with a DragonDoor.com certified instructor. As you know, there is no substitute for qualified instruction. Like rowing, good form yields great results. Poor form can cause injury. ( Of course, best to develop good habits from the start. ) If instruction is of interest to you, I might be able to make some good suggestions to you, and I would be happy to do so. My e-mail is edfesq@yahoo.com.<br /><br />Stay strong,<br /><br />Eddie

[old] The Dude Abides · Post by **[old] The Dude Abides** » July 21st, 2005, 12:36 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Cayenne @ Jul 21 2005, 12:06 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Dude Abides, ( "I don't know about you, but I take comfort in knowing that..." ) <br />I have used KBs for about 2 years. They are a "gym on a handle," literally !<br /><br />Xeno, it's hard for me to imagine you not loving them. IMHO, have a session with a DragonDoor.com certified instructor. As you know, there is no substitute for qualified instruction. Like rowing, good form yields great results. Poor form can cause injury. ( Of course, best to develop good habits from the start. ) If instruction is of interest to you, I might be able to make some good suggestions to you, and I would be happy to do so. My e-mail is edfesq@yahoo.com.<br /><br />Stay strong,<br /><br />Eddie <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />"I'm The Dude! So thats what you call me! You know, that, or his Dudeness, or Duder or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing..." <br /><br />Awesome! I'm glad I'm not the only one. Quick story:<br /><br />This past year I was on my universities club rowing team. I was a senior but I got addicted, quick. In the spring me and some of the guys would go to the field house to do 2000 meter races every tuesday for the last month of the season. The first time I broke 7 mins, I was at 6.59.4. While I technically broke 7 minutes, it was only by a hair. The next week, I went down...by two tenths of a second: 6.59.2. I was kind of bummed that 2 tenths was all I could shave off. I had a kettlebell that I fooled around with during the year, doing exercises here and there. Sitting in my that night I thought to myself that the kettlebell might help and worked out hard with it. I did it for 4 days out of the next week. My next time? 6.52.2!!! seven seconds!! I'm not sure if it was all of a result of working out with the kettlebell, but I'd like to think it played a part, in addition to the erging i did that week.<br /><br />Again, just was curious to see if anyone was using them and seeing if anyone has noticed gains in their times with them. <br /><br />Row hard!

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 1:06 am

Dude,<br /><br />What exercises did you do with it?

[old] The Dude Abides · Post by **[old] The Dude Abides** » July 21st, 2005, 2:05 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jul 21 2005, 01:06 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Dude,<br /><br />What exercises did you do with it? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />I have two 35 pound bells. some exercises call for one bell, others call for two. Sometimes I'll break a mile on the erg down into ten parts (162 meters) and give a minute and a half rest between parts. Then I'll do ten swings with one kettlebell during the rest. So at the end of it I've done 1 mile, and 100 swings. I tried doing double swings but two kettlebells at once are too hard to do 10 times right now.<br /><br /><br />Overall I do double military press, swings (single or double), double bent over row, double chest press or alternating chest press, renegade row. Working on the turkish getup and am getting ready to get into the double snatch. I feel like my strength is up to do those now.

[old] slo_boat · Post by **[old] slo_boat** » July 21st, 2005, 9:49 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(The Dude Abides @ Jul 20 2005, 11:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Cayenne @ Jul 21 2005, 12:06 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>[right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />. . . I thought to myself that the kettlebell might help and worked out hard with it. I did it for 4 days out of the next week. My next time? 6.52.2!!! seven seconds!! I'm not sure if it was all of a result of working out with the kettlebell, but I'd like to think it played a part, in addition to the erging i did that week. . .[right] <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The kettlebell workouts will probably help with your rowing because the types of exercises typically done with them develop balance, speed, and strength.<br /><br />However, your drop in time was probably in spite of your 4 days of weight work and erging.<br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 11:16 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(The Dude Abides @ Jul 20 2005, 11:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Then I'll do ten swings with one kettlebell during the rest. So at the end of it I've done 1 mile, and 100 swings. </td></tr></table><br />Is that 50 swings with each arm?<br /><br />Is the swing the primary exercise with the kettlebells, and is this the same exercise as the windmill?<br />

[old] The Dude Abides · Post by **[old] The Dude Abides** » July 21st, 2005, 12:31 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jul 21 2005, 11:16 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(The Dude Abides @ Jul 20 2005, 11:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Then I'll do ten swings with one kettlebell during the rest. So at the end of it I've done 1 mile, and 100 swings. </td></tr></table><br />Is that 50 swings with each arm?<br /><br />Is the swing the primary exercise with the kettlebells, and is this the same exercise as the windmill? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />No, thats 100 swings with two arms on one kettlebell. You can do double swings (two kettlebells, one arm on each) but thats way harder, especially after a few rowing sprints. <br /><br />The swing is probably the most basic ballistic exercise you can do with kettlebells. it's not technically demanding and it's fun, too. <br /><br />I'm still working on the windmill, it's kind of hard for me and I don't do it every day like I do with the rest of the exercises. It's not the same as the swing at all, it's not ballistic, either.<br /><br />Check out www.dragondoor.com thats where you can get the kettlebells and some other strength training products. Mike Mahler is an official kettlebell instructor based in LA, his website is www.mikemahler.com I have one of his dvds and it's great. To get an idea of what some of the exercises look like that I'm talking about, go to this page: <a href='http://www.mikemahler.com/store/size_DVD.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.mikemahler.com/store/size_DVD.htm</a> <br /><br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 1:37 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(The Dude Abides @ Jul 21 2005, 09:31 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>No, thats 100 swings with two arms on one kettlebell. You can do double swings (two kettlebells, one arm on each) but thats way harder, especially after a few rowing sprints. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />So you hold the kettlebell with two hands, and alternate sides, so that's 50 to one side and 50 to the other?<br /><br />Sounds interesting. Thanks.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 1:38 pm

By the way, does anyone ever whack their legs or knees with one of those things?

[old] The Dude Abides · Post by **[old] The Dude Abides** » July 21st, 2005, 1:54 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jul 21 2005, 01:38 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>By the way, does anyone ever whack their legs or knees with one of those things? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Haha, people have. I never have though. I know that its best to give up on an exercise if I feel the weights are becoming too heavy or I feel out of control with them. <br /><br />With the swing, you grab the kettlebell by two hands and swing it straight out in front of you, you don't swing it side to side. take your arms and put them out in front of you like you're diving headfirst, your arms are creating a 90 degree angle with your shoulders, thats how the swing should look. I swing mine a bit higher than that, so the bell is just even with my head or maybe a bit higher. But bare minimum, it should make that 90 degree angle with your shoulders and body.<br /><br />does that make more sense? hope it helps!

[old] Cayenne · Post by **[old] Cayenne** » July 21st, 2005, 3:01 pm

The Dude Abides,<br /><br />I think you have the best screen name I've ever seen.<br /><br />Stay strong,<br /><br />Eddie

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 3:50 pm

Dude,<br /><br />Yes that helps a lot. Thanks. <img src='http://www.dolfzine.com/kbswing21.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » July 21st, 2005, 3:54 pm

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