Open Water Rowing

No, ergs don't yet float, but some of us do, and here's where you get to discuss that other form of rowing.
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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 9th, 2013, 10:36 pm

Some pictures at the start line.
Edit: Sorry I am having problems posting the images.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by fishbust1 » November 10th, 2013, 9:35 am

No Paul I do not know what those boats are. Lots of different looking boats there, number 5535 is a crazy looking rower, looks like someone put a rig on a paddleboard.

How do you like that Echo?

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 10th, 2013, 11:58 am

hmmmm: I'm getting the message : "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image" when I try to upload from boat Google+ and Flickr. Any ideas?
The dimensions of the image are 958x718 pixels, 135,320 bytes. I used the same camera settings as before.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 10th, 2013, 12:02 pm

fishbust1 wrote:No Paul I do not know what those boats are. Lots of different looking boats there, number 5535 is a crazy looking rower, looks like someone put a rig on a paddleboard.

How do you like that Echo?
I've seen a few of these types of rowing rigs mounted on paddleboards. At least one of them has sliding riggers so the paddleboard does not porpoise and bury the bow, which would be very bad.

I like my Echo but its is heavy at about 50 lbs. It is very good in heavy weather and very maneuverable which some people do not like. I think it would be almost impossible to tip in normal conditions.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by fishbust1 » November 10th, 2013, 1:53 pm

My new Wintech 24 can be a challenge in high and short frequency chop when I am getting hitting on the side but it is a lot faster than my 21 by a full knot for the same effort. I shortened my span on the 24 from 160 cm to 158 to shorten the oars and change my gearing, which is ok for me being 5'6". My stroke rate is higher but that is ok, makes rough water rowing more manageable. I rarely get to enjoy flat water rowing. If I was to race though, would move span up to 159. Small changes can make a big difference dialing in the boats specifically for us. One of the benefits of being a boat owner instead of having to borrow club boats.

The best thing for pics and uploading to various forums is to open a free account at photobucket. Put pics there and then it is 1 click to copy link and another click to put it in the body of your post.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 10th, 2013, 5:03 pm

Now that the open water season is pretty much over, this will be the last post for awhile unless I can post some pictures. I feel I am starting to turn this thread into a self-indulgent blog.

Some thoughts on OTE vs, OTW; the difference is huge. It took three summers before I felt I achieved any degree of competence OTW. The fist season I could not put enough horsepower into the water to even get my heart rate up. In addition I could barely row in a straight line. It was only until the third season that I felt my conditioning was limiting. Anyone with a reasonable degree of conditioning such as a bicyclist or a crossfitter can get on the erg and achieve a good score. If the same person got on a scull they would be swimming more than they would be rowing. As important as technique is OTE, and we discuss that constantly on this board, it is ten times more important OTW. And I'm not sure there is much carryover in technique between OTE and OTW, other than driving hard with your legs. Not only do ergs not float, you can't flip them either. If any of you ergers have the opportunity, try to get OTW. It will be humbling.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by Alissa » November 11th, 2013, 11:39 am

PaulG wrote:hmmmm: I'm getting the message : "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image" when I try to upload from boat Google+ and Flickr. Any ideas?
The dimensions of the image are 958x718 pixels, 135,320 bytes. I used the same camera settings as before.
Yes. It sounds like might be trying to upload the image as an attachment. If that's what you're doing, don't do that. Instead direct-link (what you did in your earlier posts :) B) ).

Flickr has changed how their site works a couple of times recently, and is in the midst of doing it again. If you've elected to use their new beta version, when looking at your picture on its own page, one of the "missing" features that they'll "get-around-to" is the one that will give you the code to post the image here. :roll: So. You'll see a link in the lower lefthand corner that says "Opt-out & Feedback." Click that, and choose "Go back to the old experience."

You'll be able to do this:
Image
A beautiful image from your Flickr site!

I've posted directions "in another forum" on how to post from Flickr in a forum that uses BBCode. Note that because C2's site limits you to 3 urls per post (and the Flickr supplied code includes three urls), you'll want to delete the second line of code, as described in those directions.

HTH (because I'd like to see your images!),

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 11th, 2013, 4:42 pm

Thanks Alissa for the information. According to Citroen it seems my images are too big. That's surprising because I used the same camera settings as in pervious races. I will try to find a way to decrease the number of pixels.

BTW, becauswe Flickr has chagned things AGAIN I wil not use it anymore.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by fishbust1 » November 11th, 2013, 6:46 pm

Photobucket and don't look back. :D

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by Alissa » November 11th, 2013, 7:31 pm

PaulG wrote:Thanks Alissa for the information. According to Citroen it seems my images are too big. That's surprising because I used the same camera settings as in pervious races. I will try to find a way to decrease the number of pixels.

BTW, becauswe Flickr has chagned things AGAIN I wil not use it anymore.

PaulG
It actually has nothing to do w/ your camera or its settings.

If you were still going to use Flickr, you could simply use the drop-down menu (to choose the size you want). When you use the "Grab the HTML/BBCode" link and click the radio button next to BBCode, there's a drop-down menu letting you pick the size you want. :D

If you tell me what photo-host you're using, I may be able to help...

Alissa

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 20th, 2013, 10:39 pm

Head of the Weir 2013.

Calm Waters

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 20th, 2013, 10:43 pm

Boats on the marsh:

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by PaulG » November 20th, 2013, 10:47 pm

Head of the Weir 2013.

Reflections:

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Thanks to Alissa and Dougie I can post these pictures.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by Citroen » November 21st, 2013, 1:00 pm

PaulG wrote: Thanks to Alissa and Dougie I can post these pictures.
My pleasure. It was well worth it. I'm so jealous of the lovely location you've got.

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Re: Open Water Rowing

Post by gregsmith01748 » November 21st, 2013, 1:57 pm

Paul: Those pictures are so pretty they should be framed! By the way, your stories about open water also wonderful. They have rowing have me thinking of ways to convince my wife that I need 2 boats. One for rivers and another for open water. The races sound like a blast.

What kind of open water boat would you recommend to someone who rows a smooth water scull? The one's I have heard of are Maas Aero's, Pinert Dolphins, Echos and Aldens. Is there one kind that is more popular in the massachusetts area than others?

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