[supplements] L-glutamine

[[old] Steve_R]

<!--QuoteBegin-BobD+May 24 2005, 03:17 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(BobD @ May 24 2005, 03:17 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Thorne study does not support a claim of increasing atheletic performance or reducíng muscle soreness.  <br /><br />I would not trust Romanian studies regarding protein or any other supplements as they pioneered the use of steroids and it was policy to give their girl gymnasts hormones to prevent them from maturing.  And these people are still in business today.  <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I never made a claim that glutamine would improve performance. I was talking about overtraining and recovery. What the Thorne study indicates is a biochemical basis for using it to prevent catabolism and to aid in repair from other trauma. While this isn't a direct measurement, the processes to repair trauma are the same regardless of how you do it.<br /><br />The other article includes many other sources than the Romanian milk protein studies.

[[old] Roland Baltutis]

<!--QuoteBegin-jamesg+May 24 2005, 12:11 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(jamesg @ May 24 2005, 12:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Surely the main point of exercising is to stay fit and possibly healthy. So if we need or believe we need anything else on a systematic basis to stay fit and healthy, evidently exercise is not working. To take some additive to do more of the same would then seem absurd.<br /><br />On the other hand if we keep fit to race, then taking supplements will be considered as cheating by those who don't take them.<br /><br />Whether it's suicidal or not, only time can tell, and all praise to those who wish to try at the risk of their own life, like Jenner. I reckon that at best (as we are emotional animals) we can hope for some feel good now, with no long term problems (and life can be very long), but this may seem too optimistic for sceptics. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting comments James.<br /><br />Not everyone exercises just to stay fit and healthy. Although that's how many people start out, but when their competitive urge takes hold, it becomes a lot more complicated and serious. As you push your body to beat the next person or certain goals, at times your body starts to suffer from the extra work and strain. In these situations a well balanced diet will not supply all your nutritional needs. Extra nutrients are required. The most precise, convenient and concentrated form of obtaining these nutrients comes via Supplements.<br /><br />Taking supplements is not cheating nor harmfull, unless it's a banned substance, hence is banned for those reasons. If legal supplements are available to everyone, just like full body suits to swimmers and carbon fiber boats to rowers, why is it cheating? If you choose not to take them, or compete in a timber boat because your a staunch traditionalist, then you can proudly take your position at the back of the field. You would expect to see the well informed, techno savy individuals leading the way.<br /><br />Keep it smooth, keep it relaxed<br />Roland Baltutis<br />

[[old] BobD]

The trouble is that too many are looking for magic bullets and buying a lot of snake oil. <br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Roland Baltutis+May 25 2005, 11:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Roland Baltutis @ May 25 2005, 11:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-jamesg+May 24 2005, 12:11 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(jamesg @ May 24 2005, 12:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Surely the main point of exercising is to stay fit and possibly healthy. So if we need or believe we need anything else on a systematic basis to stay fit and healthy, evidently exercise is not working. To take some additive to do more of the same would then seem absurd.<br /><br />On the other hand if we keep fit to race, then taking supplements will be considered as cheating by those who don't take them.<br /><br />Whether it's suicidal or not, only time can tell, and all praise to those who wish to try at the risk of their own life, like Jenner. I reckon that at best (as we are emotional animals) we can hope for some feel good now, with no long term problems (and life can be very long), but this may seem too optimistic for sceptics. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Interesting comments James.<br /><br />Not everyone exercises just to stay fit and healthy. Although that's how many people start out, but when their competitive urge takes hold, it becomes a lot more complicated and serious. As you push your body to beat the next person or certain goals, at times your body starts to suffer from the extra work and strain. In these situations a well balanced diet will not supply all your nutritional needs. Extra nutrients are required. The most precise, convenient and concentrated form of obtaining these nutrients comes via Supplements.<br /><br />Taking supplements is not cheating nor harmfull, unless it's a banned substance, hence is banned for those reasons. If legal supplements are available to everyone, just like full body suits to swimmers and carbon fiber boats to rowers, why is it cheating? If you choose not to take them, or compete in a timber boat because your a staunch traditionalist, then you can proudly take your position at the back of the field. You would expect to see the well informed, techno savy individuals leading the way.<br /><br />Keep it smooth, keep it relaxed<br />Roland Baltutis <br /> </td></tr></table><br />