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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Cyclingman1 » October 23rd, 2013, 8:57 pm

Izzzmeister wrote:I was in the gym Monday night, doing some 'cardio' before my "resistance training" workout. I did 45 minutes on the Arc Trainer at moderately high intensity, which usually will take my heart rate up to 135-142 beats by the end. Because of the higher level of fitness from the extra FTC rowing, it only got me up to 128 by the end of the 45 minutes. ..... Alas, my heart rate never did reach 137

Quite an interesting experience of not being able to get one’s heart rate up to 137. Being a longtime athlete with thousands of miles on the roads on my feet and on my bike, I’ve not come across that problem. As tested in a physiology lab at Georgia State University at age forty in 1986, my resting heart rate was 35, max heart rate was 165 (notice well under 220 – age), and VO2Max was 68. Even today at age 67, my RHR is 48. It takes a lot of energy to move a 6’4”, 192 lb body down the road at good pace, so I paid very close attention to all fitness parameters including heart rate. I was able to run low 1:20s half marathons on several occasions, the best being 1:21:40 (6:14 pace) at age 44.


Even with a relatively low MHR of 165 (although close to 5 times RHR) I could always get to the 140s (85% of MHR) with sufficient intensity on either a bike or running when training. When racing, I often hovered around the 150’s for extended periods of time.


I will say that when biking, if one tries to maintain the cadence as a higher gear is selected, the heart rate has to jump. Of course, if the gearing increases enough, cadence cannot be maintained, but the total effort is greater. As one gets fitter, more work can be done at a particular heart rate. But as the work load increases from that point, the heart rate must increase to do the work, assuming one is not right at MHR. Getting to a MHR can vary somewhat. Also, at MHR, one is not going on much longer. But again, I do not sense that 137 is that close to OP’s MHR.


Also, when using treadmills or exercise bikes, I always use manual mode. I control the intensity, when I want to. No way, can I not get the heart rate high with sufficient intensity – resistance times turnover or cadence. I think I am just puzzled by this story. If I was coaching the OP, I would wager a large sum of money that I could get the OP’s heart rate, or anyone else’s for that matter, over 137 in well under 45 min, assuming the person is not a total couch potato. In that case, cardiac arrest might happen before 137 is achieved for all I know. Must be some info missing here.
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66-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-78: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Cikan Vuz » October 23rd, 2013, 10:04 pm

when I was young, I had low blood pressure and could not get a high heart rate, maybe that is what is going on with Izzy?

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Cyclingman1 » October 24th, 2013, 4:49 am

Cikan Vuz wrote: when I was young, I had low blood pressure and could not get a high heart rate, maybe that is what is going on with Izzy?
In this case the OP was able to achieve 137 HR until doing one month of FTC. Yes, fitness improvements can be made in a month, but that depends on how fit one already is. Percentage wise, an unfit person would make more gains in a month. Also, a fitter person usually can operate at higher HRs - that is part of what getting fit is. Of course, more and more effort is needed to get to a specific number as fitness improves. Hard to see one month of training in a fit person making a huge change in what can be done or measured.

What little research I can do does not show much correlation between blood pressure and heart rate. I would think that the direction is reversed, that is, those fit with low RHR might tend to have lower blood pressure. But then with exercise, the blood volume pumped would be tremendous. I'm making the assumption that medicines are not being taken that control one or the other parameters.
JimG, Gainesville, Ga, 78, 76", 205lb. PBs:
66-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-78: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by damselfly » October 24th, 2013, 3:04 pm

All hands on deck! Let's do the time-warp again!!! 17 of 69 members (25%) logged 214,463 total meters Wednesday!

Milestones achieved:
Diane powered past 2.5M, John S toasted ONE MILLION, John B sailed by 500K, Glen B squirreled his way past 450K, and Kenny H walloped 200K!!

Approaching milestones:
Greg H is nearing 1.3M (-37,548m), Jerry H is hounding 900K (-42,300m), Heather R is buzzing towards 450K (-4,500m), and Kristin C is approaching 150K (-19,376m)

Posted Meters:
Glen B - 26,500 There he is!
Diane M - 25,000 Solid!
David W - 24,356 Dominating!
Heather R - 22,500 Still erging strong!
Jim C - 16,000 Sweet!
Gary G - 14,650 Huge!!
Greg H - 14,052 Super!
John S - 12,568 Congrats to our latest millionaire!
Kenny H - 12,000 Biggest team row yet!

Adam M - 9,000 Indomitable!
Dana H - 8,400 Where will she stop!?!?
Jamie B - 6,135 Three-fer!
Ken C - 5,042 Keeping the family...
Kristin C - 5,000 tradition going!
Jerry H - 5,000 Unflappable!
John B - 4,412 Quickie!
Barbara B - 3,848 Three in a row! Keep 'em coming!

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by damselfly » October 25th, 2013, 11:21 am

All hands on deck! An elite and elaborate 18 of 69 members (26%) logged 149,503 total meters Thursday!

Milestones achieved:
Watch this space.

Approaching milestones:
David W is nearing 3.5M (-35,391m), Greg H is pounding towards 1.3M (-23,317m), Jerry H is sighting 900K (-36,300m), J. K is looking for 800K (-43,003m), Jim G is on track for 700K (-5,600m), Bob L is closing on 450K (-3,254m), with Lisa H on his heels (-12,987m), Barbara B is working towards 300K (-24,624m), and Vince M is working for 25K (-9,025m)

Posted Meters:
Diane M - 25,000 Found her happy place!
Jim C - 16,000 Happy for quite a while now! :lol:
David W - 15,238 Ergus interruptus?
Greg H - 14,231 40k in three days!
Adam M - 12,500 A li'l extra!
John S - 11,125 Two-fer!
Bob L - 10,035 Doing GREAT!
Lisa H - 9,300 Fighting the good fight!
J. K - 7,215 Super!
Raymond W - 6,882 Finding some time!
Jerry H - 6,000 Eight in a row!
Jim G - 5,233 Nice!
Barbara B - 4,500 Four in a row!
John B - 3,517 Pulling hard!
Kenny H - 3,500 Speed work?
Kevin K - 3,016 Back after a short break!
Vince M - 500 welcome back!
Gary G - -4,289 Whoops!? :?:

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Izzzmeister » October 25th, 2013, 12:49 pm

Whoops! I see I never posted Tuesday's numbers! Here they are:
All hands on deck, the Great Ship TimbukTOO slicing through the icy waters! A robust 19 of 69 members (28%) logged 223,454 total meters Tuesday! (Yes, a walk down Memory Lane!)

Milestones achieved: David W first to 3.4M, Jim C clobbered 1.9M, Dana H & Jamie B topped 350K, while Gary G hit 200K!!
Approaching milestones: Diane M now approaching 2.5M (-25,000m), Jim G sneaking up on 700K (-10,833m), John B in range of 500K (-2,433m), Bob L (-13,289m) ahead of Lisa H (-22,287m) in the run for 450K, while Kenny H has 200K (-9,500m) in his sights!

Posted Meters:
David W - 56,482 Double dose!
Diane M - 29,864 Not ceding ground…
Jim C - 16,000 Nearly 2MM with the halfway point approaching!
Andy I - 12,821 Strong effort!
Greg H - 12,209 Resting up, coming back stronger...

Lisa H - 12,186 Two rows or one?
Gary G - 12,081 Looking strong!
John B - 10,596 Soon to hit the halfway point to 1MM!
Bob L - 10,025 Five rows of 10K or more in 6 days!
Jerry H - 10,000 Strong!

Dana H - 8,300 Improving carefully!
J. K - 7,152 Back to back!
Matthew R - 5,851 Rested & strong!
Jamie B - 5,161 Back to back!
Kenny H - 5,000 Long!

Jim G - 4,605 Four in a row!
Kristin C - 2,621 Every other day!
Ulla D - 2,000 Don’t get rusty!
Barbara B - 500 Keeping up the habit…

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by glenmbaker » October 25th, 2013, 5:34 pm

damselfly wrote:Glen B - 26,500 There he is!
I've been hiding out on the water. Race #2 is this weekend (Portland Fall Classic). My goals for this race are:
  • Finish the race with no extra holes in my clothing (as opposed to race #,1 where my shirt got ripped to shreds by repeatedly getting caught under the seat)
  • Finish the race with my seat still on the track (as opposed to race #1, where the seat got tired of eating my shirt and decided to eject from the tracks)
  • Finish the race with absolutely nothing left in the tank (as opposed to race #1, where due to seat/shirt issues I finished rowing with arms and body only, which was somewhat restful)
Erging will hopefully go up in a couple of weeks after the Head Of The Lake (currently not seated, but you never know....). The really strange thing is that I can row hard workouts with no problem, but erging still aggravates my shoulder. Go figure.

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by damselfly » October 26th, 2013, 2:15 pm

All hands on deck! An egregious and gregarious 11 of 69 members (16%) logged 114,614 total meters Friday!

Milestones achieved:
Continue to watch this space.

Approaching milestones:
Diane is boogieing towards 2.6M (-50,000m), Jim C is making waves towards 2M (-48,000m), Jerry H is steaming for 900K (-27,300m), J. K is pulling for 800K (-35,800m), and Vince M is closing on 25K (-8,025m)

Posted Meters:
Diane M - 25,000 Adding up fast!
Yisroel H - 23,097 His heart is in it! :lol:
Jim C - 16,000 Solid!
Jerry H - 9,000 Serious streak!
Dana H - 8,500 Continues to climb!
Adam M - 8,000 Indomitable!
John S - 7,789 Three-fer!
J. K - 7,203 Solid sevens!
Kenny H - 6,000 Sweet!
Gary G - 3,025 Nice!
Vince M - 1,000 Two-fer and double the last row!

-- Lisa

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by divagirl655 » October 26th, 2013, 6:28 pm

Hello, I have been rowing for a few months now and would like to join a team for motivation and to challenge myself. Your team looks like great fun and if you will have me I would like to join. If so how do I join. Thanks for any advice :P
Susan

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Cikan Vuz » October 26th, 2013, 6:57 pm

Hi Susan, you go to your logbook and click the Teams header, then pick the team from the drop down list in the Join A team section. Hope that helps! =])

you also can
Log into your logbook,
At the top of the page, click Profile.
Click Edit Profile.
Under University/Club Standings Affiliation, follow the instructions to select an affiliation.
At the bottom of the page, click Update.

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by divagirl655 » October 26th, 2013, 8:10 pm

Thank you; I think I am joined!
Susan

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by damselfly » October 26th, 2013, 8:58 pm

divagirl655 wrote:Hello, I have been rowing for a few months now and would like to join a team for motivation and to challenge myself. Your team looks like great fun and if you will have me I would like to join. If so how do I join. Thanks for any advice :P
Susan
Hi Susan, of course we'd love to have you aboard!! I have looked for you on the team and maybe the update didn't work right. Please give it another try. If it's successful, you will find yourself on our Affiliation Roster.

And welcome aboard! :D
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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Cyclingman1 » October 27th, 2013, 7:25 am

Lisa,

I'm wondering what percentage of TimBukTOO members are actually active. Not sure how to define that. I'm thinking if meters have not changed in three straight months that perhaps one can say that person is not active.

When a percentage of members is given for a particular day, perhaps the number of loggers divided by ACTIVE members makes more sense. It could also be stated that there are X number of inactive members.

If inactive for 12 months, perhaps the names should be dropped. That may not be possible because affiliation comes from individual profile pages.

Membership in online communities is a bit of a nebulous concept. But one would think that at least some participation would be needed to remain a "member."

I've only been erging for 2 yrs and I am not a huge mileage rower. In looking through my histories, I noticed that through sickness, injury, operations, etc that I do not have a Zero week. I make no particular effort to do that, per se, but if I'm going to do an activity, I'm going go do it. Just sayin.


Thanks, Jim Grattan
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66-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-78: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by damselfly » October 27th, 2013, 2:18 pm

Hi Jim,

I'll let the Cap'n weigh in on this topic, as he defined the post structure and the reporting of "X of Y members rowed"... The team "membership" is defined by the affiliation page.

I guess I would ask, what's the impetus for the change? The "X of Y members" is just informational. Perhaps something could be added like "(N members active within the past 30 days)" or something. Do you think it would spur more participation? I doubt it. Even the folks who regularly put in meters don't ever come here to read the boards. And certainly those who aren't rowing aren't checking here either. And if Cap'n's emails haranguing people to row for the various team challenges don't get people off their butts, nothing will! :)

To your point of clearing out people not active in the last 12 months, there is effectively a "clean out" once yearly in that when the new rowing season starts, the affiliation page only shows members who have put in meters during that season. So, everyone on the current affiliation page has by definition rowed some meters since May 1.

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Re: TimbukTOO Team Room

Post by Quatroux » October 27th, 2013, 2:49 pm

glenmbaker wrote:
damselfly wrote:Glen B - 26,500 There he is!
I've been hiding out on the water. Race #2 is this weekend (Portland Fall Classic). My goals for this race are:
  • Finish the race with no extra holes in my clothing (as opposed to race #,1 where my shirt got ripped to shreds by repeatedly getting caught under the seat)
  • Finish the race with my seat still on the track (as opposed to race #1, where the seat got tired of eating my shirt and decided to eject from the tracks)
  • Finish the race with absolutely nothing left in the tank (as opposed to race #1, where due to seat/shirt issues I finished rowing with arms and body only, which was somewhat restful)
Erging will hopefully go up in a couple of weeks after the Head Of The Lake (currently not seated, but you never know....). The really strange thing is that I can row hard workouts with no problem, but erging still aggravates my shoulder. Go figure.
we need a race report. I rowed myself this weekend in the Head of the Colorado. I'll post a summary if you post a summary.
-Andy
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