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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 2:24 pm

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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by JimR » March 26th, 2006, 2:43 pm

John Rupp wrote:Why not just face the reality of your times, and how they have resulted from your training methods.
I agree with your point John ... as a matter of fact I think everyone would have to agree with the simple logic of your point ...

"Face the reality of your times ..."

And of course the next logical step in this train of thought would be ...

Don't waste your time trying to explain why poor performance is good with excuses or adjustments.

John, I think you made a very good point in this topic with your post (quoted in part above) and I commend you for it! It takes a person very secure in themselves to let go of poor ideas in order to embrace better ones, it appears you have done just that.

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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 2:54 pm

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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by JimR » March 26th, 2006, 3:11 pm

John Rupp wrote:
JimR wrote:It takes a person very secure in themselves to let go of poor ideas in order to embrace better ones, it appears you have done just that.
Thank you, Jim! :lol:

When are you going to post your times then, and your PERathlon scores?

I am looking forward to seeing them! :lol: :lol: :lol:
As soon as I can figure out how I would benefit from posting times and calculating scores I will be all over that. I am highly motivated by return on investment in all things. I hope your concern for my times will continue to drive your efforts to explain how the PERathon fits into acheiving my personal goals.

But now I think I will go do the one thing that seems to improve my erg performance ... that would be erging according to my training plan.

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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 3:29 pm

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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by JimR » March 26th, 2006, 7:57 pm

John Rupp wrote:
JimR wrote:I hope your concern for my times will continue to drive your efforts to explain how the PERathon fits into acheiving my personal goals.
I keep trying to do this for you, Jim.

Come on, let go of you poor ideas so you will be able to embrace your PERathlon scores. :oops:

How do you expect them to help you achieve anything, when you haven't even figured out yet what they are. :wink:
It seems like I have to dumb this down for you John ... until I see some convincing explaination from someone on this forum on how knowing my PERathon score benefits me in some meaningful way I just won't bother.

If you are going to keep typing on that keyboard of yours at least do something useful ... like explaining the PERathon to the forum.

By the way ... there is a poll (you might not have seen the results yet) running that would indicate I'm not the only person who can't figure out the point of the PERathon (beyond giving you an excuse to post about it all over the place). So if you would just focus on the task at hand maybe you would convince many people of the usefulness of this "thing" you have created.

Best of luck ...

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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 9:37 pm

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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by PaulH » March 26th, 2006, 9:41 pm

John Rupp wrote:Okay, Jim, since you keep asking you have forced me to do this.

The purpose of the PERathlon is to empower those who use and believe in it, and to strike fear in the souls of those using decrepit, worthless and harmful training regimes.

Another purpose is to expose those not capable of rational thought, and those who are not able to spell.

Thus the PERathlon is not only useful in rowing, but as an everlasting guide through the battle between good, evil, self expression, independence, freedom and reality.

The truth about the PERathlon is now out. B)
Interesting...So it won't make Jim any faster then.

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Post by Francois » March 26th, 2006, 10:39 pm

John Rupp wrote:The purpose of the PERathlon is to empower those who use and believe in it, and to strike fear in the souls of those using decrepit, worthless and harmful training regimes.
With a slow down of 1:14 min on your 10K, I would question your training regime. Your %WR, unfortunately, does not reflect that, so I don't see how you can be empowered. But then, in Bizarro World, everything is upside down and JR is a genius! :lol:
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1k 3:19.6 | 2k 6:42.8 | 5k 17:33.8 | 10K 36:43.0 | 30' 8,172m | 60' 16,031m
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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 11:00 pm

PaulH wrote:Interesting...So it won't make Jim any faster then.

:)
No. :(
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by johnlvs2run » March 26th, 2006, 11:24 pm

Hi Francois,

Regarding my times for this year, they were all done in a short span to get some times in the rankings. I did an event every 3 days in May. The 10k was the first part of a halfmarathon, so I could have gone somewhat faster had I been intending to stop at that point.

I haven't trained for and gone for an all out 10k for quite a long time, have been running more and not rowing as much, and doing very many hard sessions. I've not even been motivated to put my meters in the log book and am looking forward to the end of the year, when I will probably not bother to do that any more.

I am also looking to some other things now, and just rowing to keep fit. Even so, I am happy with my times and am still close to my times from before.
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bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2
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Post by JimR » March 27th, 2006, 6:25 am

John Rupp wrote:
PaulH wrote:Interesting...So it won't make Jim any faster then.

:)
No. :(
After all the interesting and useful exchanges it comes down to this?! The point of the PERathon is NOT to improve someone's performance.

I'm crushed! I think creating false hope is a very disappointing behavior John. I feel you owe the forum an apology for this heinous act you have been carrying out.

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Post by JimR » March 27th, 2006, 6:26 am

John Rupp wrote:
I am also looking to some other things now, ...
Well I, for one, hope your new activities (whatever they may be) support some kind of forum similar to the one provided by C2 ... that you might use it for your creative outlet (instead of this one).

Best of luck in your new endevors John!

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Post by hjs » March 27th, 2006, 6:59 am

serieus question John.

Can you give your thoughts about a 1 year training (so globaly) for a given (imagianairy) erger:

Age 30, M, 6.3 weight 200 pounds, 15 % fat,
2k 6.50 5 k 18 flat. The man now trains 3/4 times a week. A mixture off endurance and strenght.
He wants to row the upcoming year. 5/6 times/week, max 90 min/training.
His goal is to improve his own 2 k time.
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Post by PaulH » March 27th, 2006, 11:18 am

John Rupp wrote:The PERathlon has high, near 100%, validity across ALL events, ALL ages, both weight classes and both genders.
I don't know how accurate the Nonathlon is, beyond a general feeling that it's pretty good. In fact I can't know, because I don't know what 100% accurate would look like. Clearly you do, so why don't you take that extra step and make the PERathlon 100% accurate?

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