Low Carb Diet, Strength, Hr, Etc.

[[old] Andrew Burrows]

Eat burger and chips 5 times a day !

[[old] donm79]

<!--QuoteBegin-Andrew Burrows+Jun 11 2004, 08:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Andrew Burrows @ Jun 11 2004, 08:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Eat burger and chips 5 times a day ! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> I think I'd enjoy that plan but I'd prefer if most of the weight gain is muscle!

[[old] Ericr]

<!--QuoteBegin-donm79+Jun 11 2004, 08:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (donm79 @ Jun 11 2004, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Andrew Burrows+Jun 11 2004, 08:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Andrew Burrows @ Jun 11 2004, 08:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Eat burger and chips 5 times a day ! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br>I think I'd enjoy that plan but I'd prefer if most of the weight gain is muscle! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> Eat between breakfast and lunch too. Also your lunch is way too small. You're the most catabolic in the morning and only breakfast won't help enough. <br><br>Try to calculate your BMR (basic metabolic rate) also at<br><br><a href='http://www.thecolumn.org/how-many-calor ... i-need.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.thecolumn.org/how-many-calor ... /a><br><br>(lots more of those calculators online when you search for Basic Metabolic Rate)<br><br>Because your diet now surely is below your BMR, that's why you won't keep your weight.<br><br>

[[old] donm79]

Ericr - I'm sure you're right that it's a simple matter of calories in versus calories out, and between breakfast and training I probably don't eat enough. I work in a management consultancy and my colleagues poke fun at me for eating at lunch and again in the afternoon. But, as a testament to erging I eat a heck of a lot more than any of them and I'm a heck of a lot leaner. Bigger lunch is the plan.

[[old] Nayla]

Another suggestion to increase your caloric intake in a healthy nutrient-dense way is too add nuts,nut butters, and seeds (and maybe cheese?) a couple times a day. Good luck!<br><br>

[[old] drkcgoh]

Consult a Sports Nutritionist for a professional asessment of your diet. It looks deficient in carbohydrates, and relies too much on artificial proteins & carbohydrates. Take some real food. Those vitamins and supplements have not helped. If you really want to pig out, look up what a Sumo wrestler eats, but I don't think you want that kind of weight. You could also take a look at your training. More rest days might help. Prolonged high intensity training for long durations taps into protein as a source of energy because there are insufficient carbohydrate stores to supply the high energy demand.<br>My rowing coach is 6'5", weighs 175 lbs, has 9% body fat, and rows 2K in under 6:05. <br>KC62

[[old] John Rupp]

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have the opposite problem.  I can't keep weight on.  I'm 6'1" and have gone from 84kg to 80-81kg in the past 3 months.  That would be fine, but I was lean to start with.  I don't think I can compete well (or stay healthy) as a lightweight<br><br><!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br>Why not? I think you'd be fine as a lightweight, as long as you continued to eat healty.<br><br>Regardless of that, you'd be fine staying at the weight that you are.<br>

[[old] donm79]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jun 11 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (John Rupp @ Jun 11 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have the opposite problem.  I can't keep weight on.  I'm 6'1" and have gone from 84kg to 80-81kg in the past 3 months.  That would be fine, but I was lean to start with.  I don't think I can compete well (or stay healthy) as a lightweight<br><br><!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br>Why not? I think you'd be fine as a lightweight, as long as you continued to eat healty.<br><br>Regardless of that, you'd be fine staying at the weight that you are. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> I don't mind staying where I am; I just don't want to continue to lose weight. I plan to start rowing on the water in the autumn and I don't think I'll ever make the 72.5kg limit. I'm 24 years old and the last time I weighed 72.5 I was 15.

[[old] donm79]

<!--QuoteBegin-drkcgoh+Jun 11 2004, 02:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (drkcgoh @ Jun 11 2004, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Consult a Sports Nutritionist for a professional asessment of your diet. It looks deficient in carbohydrates, and relies too much on artificial proteins & carbohydrates. Take some real food. Those vitamins and supplements have not helped. If you really want to pig out, look up what a Sumo wrestler eats, but I don't think you want that kind of weight. You could also take a look at your training. More rest days might help. Prolonged high intensity training for long durations taps into protein as a source of energy because there are insufficient carbohydrate stores to supply the high energy demand.<br>My rowing coach is 6'5", weighs 175 lbs, has 9% body fat, and rows 2K in under 6:05. <br>KC62 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> I probably take in 400-450g of carbs every day. I don't think that's too low for someone who typically ergs under 50km/week. <br><br>Your coach's erg time is great, but I don't have the leverage advantages of someone who's 6'5". As far as I'm aware, the only heavyweight international rower (actually he's a sculler) who is as short as me is Ian Lawson, and he weighs 96kg. I suppose he makes up for his leverage disadvantage and shorter pull by being especially powerful. I'm not using lack of bodyweight as an excuse; I simply have fairly ambitious long-term plans for my rowing/erging and I want to give myself every possible advantage.

[[old] John Rupp]

Any idea who the tallest top lightweights are?<br><br>An athletic friend of mine is 6'6 and 165 pounds.

[[old] sekitori]

To show how strange this Atkins mania has become, there is now a vitamin on the market which supposedly is for those on a low carb diet. It's One-A-Day CarbSmart. I've also seen low carb milk advertised. So now they're taiking advantage of vitamin and milk sales. I wonder what will be next. I'm sure these items cost more than regular milk and vitamins. So do the Atkins products I've seen. Atkins Endulge Ice Cream (their spelling, not mine) costs around $4.00 a pint, or about $16.00 for a half gallon. For this you get a product that is 65 to 80% fat. A large percentage of that fat is saturated. The only good thing about it is that it doesn't contain sugar. <br><br>The bottom line is that the Atkins people and those who are pushing associated products such as vitamins have only one motivating factor and it sure isn't health. It's money. They create a demand for products and then they charge as much as they can for them, despite the fact that they're unhealthful or unnecessary. I do give them credit, however. They know where the money is and they sure know how to get it.

[[old] drkcgoh]

There are still people out there who eat a normal balanced diet without a single vitamin or supplement. We may not be talented enough to win hammers or gold medals, but we maintain good health and recover from minor coughs & colds or stomach upsets in just a few hours without any medication (had bad stomach cramps & diarrhoea that lasted almost 1 hr the other night, but resumed normal rowing for 9K the next morning). <br>Why should there be all this fuss about diets if not for the status symbol about the money made and spent on them. As a wise friend from New England once remarked, "I don't want to be the poorest healthy person around".<br>KC62

[[old] kamdo]

A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Period, end of statement!! When one discovers what caloric threshold it is that they lose weight at, it matters not what is eaten. (Try using the BMR calculator on the UK site...this will help determine how many calories you need/day just to exist.) I say this to raise the issue that there are no magic foods, no magic diets, etc. Fad diets like Atkins, South Beach et. al., are simply not sustainable for long periods of time. People just don't eat like that long term. To make the point with an extreme example, if one's weight loss threshold is 1800 calories/day, one could literally lose weight eating that amount of calories in Hershey bars. Obviously that is not the least bit healthy from a balanced diet standpoint and would never be advocated, but it makes the point. Some woman just lost 5 pounds/month eating at McDonalds, and not just high protein foods like an Atkins diet. She limited her total daily caloric intake to around 1500 calories and mixed it up fairly well and lost her weight.<br>Try the Total cereal diet...one bowl for breakfast with a fruit, one for lunch with a vegetable, then a sensible dinner. Try an Ensure diet...one can for breakfast, one for lunch, and a sensible dinner. Try a turkey, cauliflower, apple diet. Get the point? At the same time any diet can be both a success and a failure. Carbs are not the enemy...total calories/day are the enemy. In fact complex carbs, with a low glycemic index are the principal componenets of a well balanced diet. High glycemic carbs, like white rice, bleached breads, corn, potatoes, get into the system quickly and induce a rapid bolus of insulin which causes relatively more of the food to be stored as fat. Even this doesn't matter much if you exercise regularly!<br>I have been between 6-8% body fat since age 18 and I'm currently 45. I eat whatever I want, though with a healthy mix of fruits, veggies, and plenty of carbs. I have gained 5-6 pounds during periods of lighter training and have easily lost it when trianing at higher levels. Burn more calories and eat less...ain't no other magic out there. Unfortunately most of the US suffers from lack of will power and the "oversized" mentality. 2/3 of the country is overweight, 1/3 is obese. Obesity is currently the number one preventable cause of death surpassing smoking, and is a global pandemic. Why is this the case? lBecause of lazy asses who eat too much period!<br><br>Kevin

[[old] eurofoot13]

John - I'm not sure how tall top lightweights are. Looking at the college level in the US, they seem to be around 6'1 - 6'3, however that might not be the top end. If anyone could find this out, it would be of great interest of me, as I am 6'5" and 155, and wondering if I should go heavyweight or not. <br><br>Secondly, how do I stay full? my nutrition problems all stem from snacking. I will eat a full breakfast, but by 10:00, I will feel as though I haven't eaten since last thursday. same with lunch, dinner, or any other meal for that matter. do I need to be eating 6 full meals a day?

[[old] donm79]

<!--QuoteBegin-eurofoot13+Jun 12 2004, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (eurofoot13 @ Jun 12 2004, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> John - I'm not sure how tall top lightweights are. Looking at the college level in the US, they seem to be around 6'1 - 6'3, however that might not be the top end. If anyone could find this out, it would be of great interest of me, as I am 6'5" and 155, and wondering if I should go heavyweight or not. <br><br>Secondly, how do I stay full? my nutrition problems all stem from snacking. I will eat a full breakfast, but by 10:00, I will feel as though I haven't eaten since last thursday. same with lunch, dinner, or any other meal for that matter. do I need to be eating 6 full meals a day? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><br> I had a quick look at worldrowing.com's athlete profiles and the tallest lights seem to be about 187cm (6'2") but most are between 175cm and 185cm. I think any taller and the advantage of longer levers is offset by a lack of power to drive them.