New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

[RBFC]

Certain folks will chide you for putting up a time that's not your best!

Who cares what certain folks say?

Bob S.

Just havin' a little fun! It's all good.

Lee

[Carl Watts]

Your PB is your best time you have actually rowed to date plain and simple.

No point putting up a "projected" figure of what you can do in theory, you have to walk the walk and actually do it.

If it is slower than your capable of or you are just getting fitter, you just put it in your signature anyway and it becomes motivation to beat it.

[hjs]

Your PB is your best time you have actually rowed to date plain and simple.

No point putting up a "projected" figure of what you can do in theory, you have to walk the walk and actually do it.

If it is slower than your capable of or you are just getting fitter, you just put it in your signature anyway and it becomes motivation to beat it.

indeed, its not what think you could do or could have done what counts.

[RBFC]

I received this reply when I posted my new 500m time, but had some times on longer training rows included in my signature:

Since the signature had the 500m PB time in it, I simply assumed that the rest of the times were PB's. I suspect for most posters that would be the case - why post less than one's best?

The other times I posted were not attempts at personal bests, but I was taken to task for having "skewed" times that were weighted toward short events. That is the basis of my comment. The posted times were neither "projections" nor "imaginary", just not attempts at PB for that distance. I learned.

Lee

[Carl Watts]

As above it doesn't matter if your first row at that distance, it becomes your PB.

The FM in mine is the first FM I have completed and the aim was just to finish ! so it becomes my PB to date.

Don't be put off, it's about what personally works and helps motivates you to improve and reach your goals.

[Cyclingman1]

Being a "certain folk," I would like to comment on Signature times.

In a forum, all that is posted is fair game to respond to - within reason. Times, in particular, in a rowing forum, where times are a constant subject, are certainly often commented on. Most people post PB's in signatures. In some cases, those times are not PB's. The poster needs to merely say they are not PB's or perhaps just not post the times until the time is a PB, realizing that everyone will assume it is a PB.

I am interested in the compatibility of times across distances. So when I see times that puzzle me, I sometimes comment on them. I am so new to rowing that I really do not have, IMO, many legit PB times. One, perhaps two. Hence I have no signature. In another discussion under 'Training,' I have discussed training for a goal and some training times are posted as a concrete way of monitoring progress.

But I wonder about PB times coming from another angle. How long should PBs be considered legit. Concept2 starts over every year. They archive last years PBs and wipe the slate clean. Should we personally do that in our signatures?

[Bob S.]

Being a "certain folk," I would like to comment on Signature times.

In a forum, all that is posted is fair game to respond to - within reason. Times, in particular, in a rowing forum, where times are a constant subject, are certainly often commented on. Most people post PB's in signatures. In some cases, those times are not PB's. The poster needs to merely say they are not PB's or perhaps just not post the times until the time is a PB, realizing that everyone will assume it is a PB.

I am interested in the compatibility of times across distances. So when I see times that puzzle me, I sometimes comment on them. I am so new to rowing that I really do not have, IMO, many legit PB times. One, perhaps two. Hence I have no signature. In another discussion under 'Training,' I have discussed training for a goal and some training times are posted as a concrete way of monitoring progress.

But I wonder about PB times coming from another angle. How long should PBs be considered legit. Concept2 starts over every year. They archive last years PBs and wipe the slate clean. Should we personally do that in our signatures?

I just checked out signatures and I see that I set one up about a year and a half ago, but have rarely used it.

As far as I can see, there is only one rule: There is a 255 character limit. It says nothing about content.

My own consists of some unabashed bragging about WRs - with no numbers given because they are so puny compared to what all the young (i.e. under 85) folks are doing. As far as PBs are concerned for me, there ain't no such thing no more. My 2k PB was 16 years ago. It was the first year of the 2k (2.5k had been the distance of choice before that) and was a WR for just a few months. The 30' and 60' records were also kept then, so my PBs for those are ancient history. When I got back into competitive erging a few years later, the online ranking had been started and there several more distances included, so I was coming up with a lot of new PBs. I was still doing cardio post op rehab at that time, so as my condition improved, so did my scores. As a result, the PBs kept rolling in - for a while. It was good for 3 or 4 years, but it rounded off to a peak and has since dropped precipitously. Any numbers that I might put into a signature would be out of date in just a few months, so I see no point to it.

LIke I said, there are no rules for signatures as far as C2 set it up except for the character limit, so any conclusions drawn from someone's signature are speculative at best. The members can put anything they want in there, even a slice of spam.

Bob S.

[Cyclingman1]

I'm completely fine with posting anything in a signature, but what cannot be controlled are perceptions of what is there. Since most people post PBs there, that is the assumption - at least on my part. If I err in that interpretation, it most certainly is not due to maliciousness. Since I don't do a signature, I'm not sure what can be designated - date, PB, Training, etc.

I do think that the signature serves a valid purpose. On line rankings are also good, but there really is no way to associate posters with those times unless real names are used throughout.

[Carl Watts]

The PB's are a personal thing so do whatever spins your flywheel.

I see a bit of a problem with top sports people in that they remember what they used to do so they never get round to posting what they can do now as they are still trying to get their times back down to the "Old days" so are never happy in posting their current times as they are in constant beleif they will do better next week, next month or some point in the future.

Personally I think you should just keep it current as no one is really that interested in what you used to be able to row, its what you can now do in your current age group that counts, thats the way it works in the rankings so you may as well stick to that format.

If your 85 it doesn't matter, the fact you can still even get on the erg and pull the handle is an acheivment in itself. My father is 76 and he wouldn't be able to pull a single stroke. You times are as valid as they ever were, probably more so.

I notice that some people put in their rating as well, this is also probably valid and useful as not really enough stats are recorded in the rankings and the monthly challanges like rating and average pace.

[Atorrante]

10km - 38:33.7 - 26spm - happy with that!

Well done. That is a pace of 1:55.8, great for a 10K. I'm doing 30's at 1:56.8, so hope to be doing the 10K at your pace soon. Also my stroke rate is like 26... Cheers

Told you that soon I'll be near that number. Yesterday did the 10K in 38:34.9 ad I'm also very happy with that. Cheers!

[Rockin Roland]

It's only on rare occasions now that I get a chance to row on a C2 erg as most of my erging is done on my Rowperfect erg.
However, last Sunday at the rowing club I did a 30 minute time trial on a C2 erg on slides and the result is as follows:

30 minutes 8672 m average pace 1:43.7 Age 50 Weight 87.4 kg end heart rate 170 bpm rating 39.0 spm

In the past I have found my results on slides to be virtually pretty much the same as on a static erg.

This is my first C2 30 minute time trial since I turned 50 however my PB for 30 minutes in my 40s was 8849 m. Hence age has caught up with me since I turned 50 and consequently I have lost almost 200m over those years. On a positive note though, my result puts me in 3rd place in the rankings for the 50s age group.

[Cyclingman1]

Rocking Roland, Are your times posted in the Concept 2 rankings for 2012? I missed them somehow.

[Bob S.]

Rocking Roland, Are your times posted in the Concept 2 rankings for 2012? I missed them somehow.

The one he just quoted is listed as of 2012/03/27 @ 7:45PDT.

[Carl Watts]

30 minutes 8672 m average pace 1:43.7 Age 50 Weight 87.4 kg end heart rate 170 bpm rating 39.0 spm

In the past I have found my results on slides to be virtually pretty much the same as on a static erg.

Wow that’s a ridiculously high rating, I think you would notice the difference on a static Erg. It would be great if they included the rating information in the rankings as it helps you get a better picture of your overall performance.

[Cyclingman1]

It would be nice to know the drag factor, too.