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CONLEJM · Post by **CONLEJM** » February 15th, 2012, 2:16 pm

Likewise when I used to erg at a gym - no one ever used these. No lines, no waiting. One in a while someone might try it for a few minutes and row at a excruciatingly slow pace, only to hop back on a stairmaster or eliptical rider or stationary bike and read an old tattered issue of Glamour Magazine while "working out".

Quatroux · Post by **Quatroux** » February 15th, 2012, 6:22 pm

The Y reached capacity on Saturday. No visible line, but we had a few minutes of all 5 or 6 ergs in use. That's a first. I normally row alone with the odd wieght lifter doing a few hunderd meters like an idiot. The last month+ I've seen folks with good form doing long rows. I assumed it was folks getting ready for the Crash-Bs. I'll find out on Saturday.

damselfly · Post by **damselfly** » February 15th, 2012, 7:28 pm

Quatroux wrote: I normally row alone with the odd wieght lifter doing a few hunderd meters like an idiot.

No doubt after putting the damper up to 10.

Quatroux · Post by **Quatroux** » February 15th, 2012, 8:49 pm

damselfly wrote:
Quatroux wrote: I normally row alone with the odd wieght lifter doing a few hunderd meters like an idiot.
No doubt after putting the damper up to 10.

HHAHA! I forgot that part. Someone walked into my office while I was writing the post and I knew I hit send too early.

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 15th, 2012, 10:40 pm

All non-military hands on deck, pulling together! A very impressive 20 of 58 members (34%) logged 213,790 total meters Tuesday!

Milestones: Adam M passed 1.6M, while Kate B hit her first mark of 15K!
Just Around The Corner: Team Leader Heather nearing 2.8M (-20,000m), Yisroel’s next stop is 2.3M (-32,686m), Jamie near 1.1M (-4,329m) with Jeff (-8,000m) in pursuit, Kyle intent on 1M (-17,532m), Elisa pursues 800K (-14,067m), Steven quite near 600K (-4,196m), Paul is closing on 200K (-15,628m), Sharon ready to hammer 75K (-6,336m), Katerina pulling strongly for 35K (-4,017m) with Kate now after 25K (-8,493m)!

Posted Meters:
Steven F - 24,758 Sweet!
Heather R - 20,000 Enjoy your month at the top…
Kyle J - 14,468 Wow!
Lisa H - 14,026 Long rows PLUS gardening!
Jim C - 14,000 Going back to longer rows?

Adam M - 13,000 Long!
Marius S - 12,000 Nice!
Yisroel H - 11,321 Fast 10K: 37:01.2, only 15s off SB!
Jeff S - 11,000 Eleven heaven!
Matthew R - 10,785 Great!

Andy I - 10,018 That’s a :45?
Bob G - 10,000 Impressive!
Jamie B - 9,444 When does OTW season start?
Kate B - 8,000 Long row!
Elisa H - 7,016 Steady!

Allen H - 6,479 Staying young!
Matthew P - 6,154 Long row of the week!
Daiva S - 5,000 Our 5K queen!
Ulla D - 4,730 Four days running!
Kevin K - 1,591 Daily!

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 15th, 2012, 10:45 pm

Quatroux wrote:
Izzzmeister wrote:Andy I - 27,018 Whoa! Is this a few day tally?!
A long Saturday and short Monday. I like it so much I'll be doing again this weekend. If only the gym didn't have a 45 minute limit on the erg. I'd have had a PB HM.

When I'm at a gym with a time limit sign, I use the Direct Approach: I first ask the fellow at the desk if it's alright to do a longer row (like that HM), assuring him that if anyone needs the erg I will move aside. Then I ask people who start hanging around if they need the erg, because I could defer to them. It's VERY rare that I need to give up my erg...

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 15th, 2012, 10:59 pm

CONLEJM wrote:That's awesome Glen and Mark! Taking some rest did you guys some good. it has helped me a lot also. I'm setting new PBs a couple/few times a week since I started taking days off again.

I have never done a 2K before yesterday; never saw them as being a productive part of my fitness regimen (or any row < 5K for that matter). But I tried one yesterday for the first time and did it in 6:54.3, or a 1:43.5/500 pace. I am pretty happy with that for a first try. But I like the longer rows much better.

Jim, if you haven't figured it out, anything sub-7 is very, very good. And if you haven't figured it out, endurance levels are more indicative of 2K scores than speed levels, as 80-85% of the energy used during a 2K is from the aerobic system. So, the longer rows you like have helped you achieve a very good 2K time!
A reminder: Your improvement is better to track using watts than time, since a 5% improvement in wattage might only show up as a couple seconds improvement. So, your real improvement is 5%, not 2%, as your improved energy output actually causes the flywheel to have to fight more drag.
I personally consider EVERY distance as a productive part of my fitness regimen...

Quatroux · Post by **Quatroux** » February 16th, 2012, 9:33 am

Izzzmeister wrote:Andy I - 10,018 That’s a :45?

I can row as slow as I want at home

I like numbers, but (for the record) dislike math. Let's see what Excel can do for me:
I rowed my first 10k on August 12, 2011. I've rowed 40 more since. My average pace is 2:46/500m. My PB is exactly 2:25.0/500m. Technically I am a few minutes over 45 minutes at the Y each session. I hope I don't get in trouble.

Quatroux · Post by **Quatroux** » February 16th, 2012, 9:35 am

Izzzmeister wrote:Then I ask people who start hanging around if they need the erg

I see... so people hang around you at the gym a lot? I don't seem to have that problem. Maybe I need to lose a few pounds.

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 16th, 2012, 12:17 pm

Quatroux wrote:
Izzzmeister wrote:Then I ask people who start hanging around if they need the erg
I see... so people hang around you at the gym a lot? ...

Yes, but mainly guys with white coats carrying butterfly nets...

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 16th, 2012, 1:41 pm

All landlubbing hands on deck, pulling together! A less impressive 10 of 58 members (17%) logged 95,795 total meters Wednesday!

Milestones: Heather R slams through 2.8M as Jamie B achieves 1.1M!
Just Around The Corner: Yisroel’s next stop is 2.3M (-32,686m), Jeff (-8,000m) in pursuit of 1.1M with Andy (-25,727m) catching up, Kyle narrows the gap to 1M (-5,532m), Elisa pursues 800K (-14,067m), Steven quite near 600K (-4,196m), Paul is closing on 200K (-15,628m), Sharon ready to hammer 75K (-6,336m), Katerina pulling strongly for 35K (-4,017m) with Kate now after 25K (-8,493m)!
Kyle is approaching 1M (-5,532m)

Posted Meters:
Heather R - 20,000 Top dawg… I mean, bird!
Jim C - 15,000 Building!
Lisa H - 12,024 Another big row!
Kyle J - 12,000 Four in a row at 12K+!
Adam M - 10,500 Great season continues…

Andy I - 10,006 Steadily advancing…
Marius S - 6,000 Back-to-back!
Jamie B - 6,000 Steady growth…
Matthew P - 2,217 Three rows in 3 days!
Kevin K - 2,048 Daily short (fast?) rows…

Halfway through the Military Challenge, Marine rep David Welch rowed 243,858m, Navy rep Joseph Wyatt rowed 192,670m & Army man Leif Henecke pulled for 35,249m!

CONLEJM · Post by **CONLEJM** » February 16th, 2012, 4:22 pm

Thanks for the advice Cap'n Izzy!

I think the real reason I don't like rows < 5K is simply because they require way too much EFFORT if you are trying to place up at the 90th percentile! Way more effort than even doing a half-marathon at the 90th percentile. At least that's the way it feels for me. The short rows nearly kill me, and I mean that literally! Must be a power vs endurance thing.

So far all my rows 5k or longer (5k, 6k, 10k, 21k, 30min, 60min) are up at the 90th percentile or above. My one and only 2k is at the 89th percentile. And my one and only 500m is at the 80th percentile; I tried that one a couple of months ago and haven't revisited it since. I've not tried a 1k or a 4min yet.

goyo · Post by **goyo** » February 16th, 2012, 9:57 pm

I'm going to start treating my yard work like a trip to the gym--starting with some stretching and a good warm up. This is the second time in less than a year that I have injured myself in the yard. I hurt my lower back while pruning last Saturday. Maybe I shouldn't have got on the ladder to cut some hard-to-reach branches. During the summer, I got an elbow injury from shoveling. It's a jungle out there!

The good news is that I was able to get back on the erg for the first time this week for a short, safe and lethargic row.

Izzzmeister · Post by **Izzzmeister** » February 17th, 2012, 4:45 am

All hands on deck, pulling for a long weekend! A better 13 of 58 members (22%) logged 141,481 total meters Thursday!

Milestones: Jeff S reached 1.1M, while KYLE J BROKE ONE MILLION METERS!!!
Just Around The Corner: Mark soon to hammer 2.7M (-20,899m), Yisroel’s closer to 2.3M (-16,169m), Andy (-15,716m) quickly approaches 1.1M, Glenn nearing 900K (-20,457m), Elisa nearer 800K (-8,956m), Steven quite near 600K (-4,196m), Paul is closing on 200K (-15,628m), Sharon ready to hammer 75K (-6,336m), Katerina pulling strongly for 35K (-4,017m) with cross-training Kate now after 25K (-8,493m)!

Posted Meters:
Heather R - 20,000 Keeping that 20-20 vision!
Mark E - 19,632 Abducted by gym rats?
Kyle J - 17,000 That was very fast to 1MM!
Yisroel H - 16,517 Nice long, fast row!
Jim C - 12,500 Now you passed Lisa!

Jeff S - 11,000 One hundred 11Ks is 1.1MM…
Matthew R - 10,875 Stronger row!
Andy I - 10,011 That’s four…
Jamie B - 5,555 High fives!
Elisa H - 5,111 Every other day is good…

Glenn Y - 5,030 Ergs are safer than gardens, I guess…
Bob G - 5,000 That’s like half a pill, I think…
Adam M - 3,250 Speed work?

Quatroux · Post by **Quatroux** » February 17th, 2012, 10:34 am

Izzzmeister wrote:KYLE J BROKE ONE MILLION METERS!!!

Congrats!!!! Don't forget to order your free shirt from C2.

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