Ranger's training thread

[snowleopard]

Interestingly, in his Olympic years, Xeno liked to do most of his meters in his 1x at 21 spm.

Why is that interesting? Xeno is a hwt, a powerful athlete and a stylish sculler.

You scull like a lobster.

I don't see any connection.

[macroth]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

Liar.

[ranger]

Sure, I think that Mike VB would be rowing _very_ well OTW, if he were doing a lot of 2:03 @ 21 spm with a UT2 HR.

20K a day?

Then he would be powering the boat instead of just not stopping it.

2:03 @ 21 spm is right around 9 SPI.

Since 9 SPI is what Mike VB prefers OTErg, and paces OTErg are 15 seconds per 500m faster than paces OTW at the same rate, at the moment, Mike misses rowing well by fifteen seconds per 500m.

Training is an opportunity to get better.

Mike crochets superbly.

He just can't power a boat.

The erg is a wonderful instrument to use to improve your ability to power a boat.

So Mike should erg more, if he wants to improve.

He needs to stop crocheting.

He needs to learn how to power a boat.

ranger

[ranger]

Interestingly, in his Olympic years, Xeno liked to do most of his meters in his 1x at 21 spm.

Why is that interesting? Xeno is a hwt, a powerful athlete and a stylish sculler.

You scull like a lobster.

I don't see any connection.

Sure.

I still have _lots_ to learn OTW.

I keep working on it.

But most of this is about how to avoid stopping a boat.

I suspect that I will continue to make progress with this for a number of years, and as I do, I will get faster and faster and faster OTW.

I am already great OTErg.

Nothing more to be done there.

I can really power the boat.

ranger

[snowleopard]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

ranger,

This is awesome stuff.

I can't understand why you aren't ranking these 60+ lwt rows. Just get an IND_V tag and you can instantly have top spot at all distances. And that's rowing at just 21 spm. Amazing

[ranger]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

ranger,

This is awesome stuff.

I can't understand why you aren't ranking these 60+ lwt rows. Just get an IND_V tag and you can instantly have top spot at all distances. And that's rowing at just 21 spm. Amazing

Sure.

That's what I'm going to do.

Just for the discipline of it, though, I will start with a FM and work down.

Once the FM is done, the rest will come along pretty easily.

As I shorten the distance, I will just raise the rate and HR, and therefore the pace and intensity of effort.

ranger

[PaulH]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

To join in with everyone else: No you didn't. This is an outright lie. You've said repeatedly that this is a thread for discussing training. Lying about it is the absolute antithesis of discussion. Hence you have 4 hours to admit to and apologize for your lie, or prove that it wasn't a lie. If you choose not to do one of those I'm closing the thread.

Naturally if you prove that you *did* do this I will apologize unreservedly, and encourage the others to do the same.

[hjs]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

To join in with everyone else: No you didn't. This is an outright lie. You've said repeatedly that this is a thread for discussing training. Lying about it is the absolute antithesis of discussion. Hence you have 4 hours to admit to and apologize for your lie, or prove that it wasn't a lie. If you choose not to do one of those I'm closing the thread.

Naturally if you prove that you *did* do this I will apologize unreservedly, and encourage the others to do the same.

Now you are talking Paul. If he does this, (show proof that is) not an apology, I will down on my knees and post that as a picture.

[ranger]

So!

Given standards of good rowing, both Mike and I have something to shoot for.

If 2:03 @ 21 spm with a UT2 HR is good rowing OTW, all we have to do is row along at 21 spm and a UT2 HR, day after day, in our OTW sessions, and note our paces.

The difference between our paces and 2:03 is how far we both fall short of rowing well, Mike VB, because he still has a lot to learn about how to power a boat, and me, because I still have a lot to learn about how to avoid stopping a boat.

I'll try this out today and see what I get.

This is exciting!

It is always nice to have something definite /particular/exact/ well-defined to aspire to.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Sure.

That's what I'm going to do.

Just for the discipline of it, though, I will start with a FM and work down.

No no no ranger. You miss my point. You are _already_ doing it in your 15K training rows.

You could, for example, set the dial for 5K and row 1:48 at 21 spm then rank it. Pause for a few seconds, set the dial for 10K and row 1:48 at 21 spm then rank it.

Top place in the rankings comes automatically from your daily training

Anyway, you've a few hours to pull the data from your PM4 to prove that you did indeed row 15K @ 1:48 21spm this morning so I look forward to seeing that. It would be such a pity if your valuable contributions to the erging community were hidden away in your blog on the UK forum. Come to think of it, maybe the UK mods will take a dim view of your lies, if indeed they are lies, and ban you over there too.

[Citroen]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

To join in with everyone else: No you didn't. This is an outright lie. You've said repeatedly that this is a thread for discussing training. Lying about it is the absolute antithesis of discussion. Hence you have 4 hours to admit to and apologize for your lie, or prove that it wasn't a lie. If you choose not to do one of those I'm closing the thread.

Naturally if you prove that you *did* do this I will apologize unreservedly, and encourage the others to do the same.

I can't wait for 14:21 BST (9:21am Eastern, 8:21am Central)

What happens at 14:22 when Ranger immediately starts a new "Ranger's Lies" thread? Do we straight away moderate that out of existence?

[macroth]

So, you're going to row a few km's @21spm without stopping, and post screenshots of your SpeedCoach and HR readouts here? That would be quite a revolution for this thread!


Just another reminder, because it bears repeating:

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

To join in with everyone else: No you didn't. This is an outright lie. You've said repeatedly that this is a thread for discussing training. Lying about it is the absolute antithesis of discussion. Hence you have 4 hours to admit to and apologize for your lie, or prove that it wasn't a lie. If you choose not to do one of those I'm closing the thread.

Naturally if you prove that you *did* do this I will apologize unreservedly, and encourage the others to do the same.

[ranger]

No you didn't.

Yes, I did.

But this prowess OTErg, which is all about powering a boat, doesn't reduce the difficulty--a whit--of what I still have to learn about rigging, feathering, and the like, in order to not stop the boat.

Crocheting is difficult!

I need to work on my "fine motor skills"!

These things are just as hard to master as what Mike VB will have to learn about powering a boat in order to row well, don't you think?

Perhaps Byron can chime in here and serve as a moderator in this discussion.



BTW, I just changed the rigging of my oars so that I have two inches or so more outboard, an inch on each side.

That's a lot!

I'll see what this feels like.

This is how I had the oars rigged for several years when I first started rowing OTW in my Peinert.

ranger

[PaulH]

No you didn't.

Yes, I did.

Then providing proof will fit easily into the three hours you have remaining, I'm sure. I shall begin crafting my apology.

[lancs]

This morning so far, 15K OTErg, 1:48 @ 21 spm (13 SPI).

That's a very impressive 15k Prof. Here's me thinking you couldn't even hold that pace for 5k. I feel ashamed that I ever doubted you.

You're getting very good with your camera these days so I look forward to seeing your photo of the 15k to ensure this excellent thread remains open..