Ranger's training thread

[bellboy]

As ever, he's going about things the right way: open minded, searching for good coaches and information, and with a decent sense of humility.

"Right" way?

Sure, for Roy.

But I would never go about things that way--and haven't.

It's no fun, and can be harmful to your chances of success.

It's much more fun to discover things for yourself.

I always think that, if you are willing to do it, you are always your own best coach.

Hard work and high standards enforce humility.

No need to bow and scrape to others, no matter how prestigious and pretentious they might be.

ranger

So say's the man with perhaps the largest ego in the Northern hemisphere. Have you ever thought that if you're students tried to discover things for themselves you would have been out of a job these past 30 years? The principle is the same numbnuts.

[ranger]

As usual, you reserve the right to prove me wrong by showing a simple pic of what you say you are doing every day

No need to show you anything at all about my training.

If you don't want to believe what you hear, so be it.

Just a need to pull a FM, 1:48 @ 23 spm (12 SPI), which will be the result of my training.

It will be coming along soon.

Training is going _very_ well.

ranger

[ranger]

Have you ever thought that if your students tried to discover things for themselves you would have been out of a job these past 30 years?

No one needs to go to school in order to learn things.

If you can work things out for yourself, by all means, do.

No reason to pay for it, etc., or have your opinions shaped by others.

Robert Frost liked to say that college is for those who didn't learn to read in High School.



There's some truth in that.

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard without finishing, but he ended up o.k.

No?

Made about 100 billion bucks before he retired early?

Gates had too much to discover and create on his own to waste time going to classes.

Frost went to Dartmouth and Harvard, but only for a semester each.

He was astonished to see students taking notes in class.

Why take notes on what someone else is saying?

The important thing is to think for yourself.

ranger

[aharmer]

As usual, you reserve the right to prove me wrong by showing a simple pic of what you say you are doing every day

No need to show you anything at all about my training.

If you don't want to believe what you hear, so be it.

Just a need to pull a FM, 1:48 @ 23 spm (12 SPI), which will be the result of my training.

It will be coming along soon.

Training is going _very_ well.

ranger

Yes, you are correct, only a FM at 1:48 or better will silence your critics. There's only one problem...you've been within a couple weeks of this mythical event for about 6 years. When all is said and done, this post will prove prophetic. We will all be forced to believe it or not, because we'll never see it.

Please utilize your right to prove me wrong. Even if you don't want to do your FM for some unknown reason, you could simply show us all the 15k steamroller with a flat HR and we'd be convinced. To say you don't care if we're convinced is laughable. You post 20 times a day defending your lies. You care more than anybody has ever cared about anything.

[ranger]

Yes, you are correct, only a FM at 1:48 or better will silence your critics.

I am glad we agree.

So let's just leave it there.

I have explained--in great detail--everything that anyone might want to know about my training over the last eight years.

I have just used various strategies, some borrowed, some of my own invention, in order to learn to row well (13 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

Fait accompli.

No one much over the age of 40 has ever rowed well.

So what I have done has been a pretty unusual accomplishment.

Unprecedented.

A FM, 1:48 @ 23 spm (or better), will demonstrate what I have achieved.

Given normal decline with age (of four seconds per 500m each decade) and my FM pb ten years ago (of 1:54), a FM @ 1:48 now beats predictions by 10 seconds per 500m.

ranger

[ranger]

At 8 SPI, paces and rates for the series of OTW 1Ks I have suggested are these:

2:05 @ 22 spm
2:02 @ 24 spm
1:59 @ 26 spm
1:56 @ 28 spm
1:53 @ 30 spm
1:51 @ 32 spm
1:49 @ 34 spm
1:47 @ 36 spm
1:45 @ 38 spm
1:43 @ 40 spm

I have never done any timed "pieces" in my OTW rowing--at all.

But this will certainly be true:

If these 1K trials turn out to be something like the above, it will demonstrate how much I have improved my OTW rowing.

No 60s rower--none--pulls much better than 8 SPI OTW.

For anyone 60 years old, 8 SPI is moving the boat pretty darn well.

In terms of final pace achieved, once you can move the boat as well as 8 SPI, getting a lot of work done easily on each stroke, the only remaining question is one of fitness:

How high can you raise the rate and still hang in there for 120 strokes?

ranger

[hjs]

Have you ever thought that if your students tried to discover things for themselves you would have been out of a job these past 30 years?

No one needs to go to school in order to learn things.

If you can work things out for yourself, by all means, do.

No reason to pay for it, etc., or have your opinions shaped by others.

Robert Frost liked to say that college is for those who didn't learn to read in High School.



There's some truth in that.

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard without finishing, but he ended up o.k.

No?

Made about 100 billion bucks before he retired early?

Gates had too much to discover and create on his own to waste time going to classes.

Frost went to Dartmouth and Harvard, but only for a semester each.

He was astonished to see students taking notes in class.

Why take notes on what someone else is saying?

The important thing is to think for yourself.

ranger

there is one major difference.

hint hint hint, think age.........

[aharmer]

The FM "within a month or so" has been in play for 6 years. You've been ready to sit down and perform the mythical piece for 6 years, yet it's never been done. Fait accompli has been typed a hundred different times. When you're backed into a corner of your lies you respond with "let's leave it at that"? You might as well just admit to being a lying troll for the last 6 years because "let's leave it at that" says exactly the same thing. It must be exhausting to spend hours every day defending and remembering the web of deceit. Very impressive as trolls go, maybe the best of all time.

[mikvan52]

in scanning this morning:

Spi.... blah, blah, blah
Equivalent to.... blah, blah, blah
my family.... blah, blah, blah
I'm a novice.... blah, blah, blah
my work is done.... blah, blah, blah
I'm just a beginner.... blah, blah, blah
I've got the rest of my life.... blah, blah, blah

(but where the verification of anything claimed?)

[ranger]

in scanning this morning:

Spi.... blah, blah, blah
Equivalent to.... blah, blah, blah
my family.... blah, blah, blah
I'm a novice.... blah, blah, blah
my work is done.... blah, blah, blah
I'm just a beginner.... blah, blah, blah
I've got the rest of my life.... blah, blah, blah

(but where the verification of anything claimed?)

I spent today OTW calibrating my speed coach.

That's a bit of an advance, I guess.

You're right.

The proper calibration of the NK XL2 is .975.

Did some 1:49 @ 29 spm this morning with the 1.0 calibration, which is equivalent to 1:52 @ 29 spm with the correct calibration.

Happy about that.

Now that my speed coach is calibrated, I'll start some verification tomorrow with a couple of low rate 1K trials--22 spm and 24 spm.

HRs should still be low.

Nothing much over 150 bpm, I suspect.

In a flat out 1K trial, I suspect I will hit my maxHR (190 bpm) about half way through.

I have ordered the computer interface for the NK XL2, so that I can upload the results of the trials from the NK XL2 to my computer and from there to the forum.

ranger

[ranger]

The FM "within a month or so" has been in play for 6 years.

Yea, but just the bllink of an eye when it comes to mastering something as challenging and complicated as a good rowing stroke.

I am delighted that it is has only taken a few years to get the job done.

I have been lucky!

You never know how things are going to go when you take on something that has never been done before.

No one much over 40 has ever rowed well.

For a 60-year-old to row well is a gobsmacker.

Amazing!

ranger

[Brunsie]

Hard work and high standards enforce humility.


ranger

I am going to fully support this assertion and as such ranger proved he has not been setting high standards for himself and has not been doing hard work for he has the least amount of humility of any human being I have ever come across. His level of arrogance and narcissism make today's out of control celebrities seem humble as a matter of fact.

[snowleopard]

or a 60-year-old to row well is a gobsmacker.

Have you ranked anything at 2K and over at 13 SPI? No. So you have never rowed well. Anyone can "row well" for a few tens of meters

[ranger]

or a 60-year-old to row well is a gobsmacker.

Have you ranked anything at 2K and over at 13 SPI? No. So you have never rowed well. Anyone can "row well" for a few tens of meters

True.

I've never rowed well, either.

My best effort, I guess, is a sub-6:30 2K at 12 SPI, without even preparing for it, five years ago, about half way through my training.

But that was at high drag, and with many issue of technique still unresolved, partially because of the high drag.

These issues are now behind me.

So, when I am fully prepared, I think I'll now pull 13 SPI for 2K: 1:34 @ 32 spm.

BTW, no 60s lwt has ever done anything at much over 10 SPI.

Roy Brook, the 55 lwt WR-holder, pulls his 2Ks at something like that.

Paul Siebach and Graham Watt pull their 2Ks at about 11 SPI.

Back in 2003, I pulled my WR 2Ks at 10.5 SPI.

ranger

[ranger]

Hard work and high standards enforce humility.


ranger

I am going to fully support this assertion and as such ranger proved he has not been setting high standards for himself and has not been doing hard work for he has the least amount of humility of any human being I have ever come across. His level of arrogance and narcissism make today's out of control celebrities seem humble as a matter of fact.

It takes humility to pursue the standards and do the work.

What you are considering humility is something like "selflessness," or whatever.

That's nonsense.

Nothing significant gets done selflessly.

ranger