Dennis!dennish wrote:Ah crap! I was alerted by a friend that The pathological one was lying about me again. I will return all the medals I have won rowing on the water immediately (masters natioals included) since I apparently have never rowed on the water. Who knew? Sure felt like I was rowing on the water but then the LIAR knows everything. dennis
Funny... must have been a body double impersonator I ran into at Nationals two years ago.... = Paul Siebach WR holder in the 50-54 2k lwt erg....I know nuh-sing wrote:Most of the best veteran ergers in the history of the sport have not even been rowers: Tore Foss, Paul Siebach, Roy Brook, Dennis Hastings, Paul Hendershott, Andy Ripley, Graham Watt
In a 1x?dennish wrote: I will return all the medals I have won rowing on the water immediately (masters natioals included) since I apparently have never rowed on the water
Sure.NavigationHazard wrote:Andy Ripley won Henley in 2005 in the Tideway Veterans' viii
Andy Ripley was a rower as well as many other things. A very good rower. You were (typically) wrong.feckandclueless wrote:Most of the best veteran ergers in the history of the sport have not even been rowers: Tore Foss, Paul Siebach, Roy Brook, Dennis Hastings, Paul Hendershott, Andy Ripley, Graham Watt, myself, etc.
And if you don't.....ranger wrote: I'll be doing a FM trial pretty soon.
If I do 1:48 (or better), the case is closed and speculation ended.
ranger
Of all Byron's compilations, this is for me the best. What a lying, welshing, dishonorable case of piles. The begging and mewling, followed by lies and denial. It's grotesque.Byron Drachman wrote:Ranger wrote:Thu Apr 02, 2009Indeed I will.Byron Drachman wrote:Then you will have no problem sending Henry a check for $1000 unless you verify your weight as a lightweight in a manner suitable to Henry and post a sub 6:40 2K with verification code before the end of this month.
Just as he will have no problem sending me $3000 when I win both the bets.
We are upstanding folks.
We pay our bets, if we lose.
April 30, 2009:
Yea, time has run out.
Oh well.
Don't much feel like doing a 2K, given that I still haven't sharpened for one.
2Ks hurt pretty badly if you aren't ready for them.
Hey, hjs, any possibility of modifying our $1000 bet along the lines of our $3000 bet?
A time extension would be _greatly_ appreciated.
That might be a squarer deal, given my situation (unprepared!).
I need to get sharpened up if I want to be doing 2Ks without a lot of grief.
Training is coming along great--but slowly.
Too slowly, it appears.
One last cry for mercy!
April 30, 2009: hjs is an ogre
no sympathy
no heart
May 5, 2009: I am doing trials at the other distances this spring and summer.
If I can't reach my goals in those trials, then I'll pay up for the bet I lost.
My attempt to get better has involved improving my technique.
That work is done.
I now row well (13 SPI).
If I can't reach my goals over the next couple of months, when I will use this improved technique in sprint and distance trials, I can't reach my goals later on.
Feb 17, 2010: Hey, Henry. I will send you the $1000 I owe you from the prize money I will win from the Chicago organizers when I break the 55s lwt WR this weekend in Cleveland.hjs wrote: Feb 17, 2010:The bet was clear Rich.ranger wrote: Hey, Henry.
I will send you the $1000 I owe you from the prize money I will win from the Chicago organizers when I break the 55s lwt WR this weekend in Cleveland.
I won't receive the money until March, though.
Of course, given that I am sending you the $1000 for the part of the bet that I lost last year, if I reach one of my targets this year, you will owe me a full $3000 in return.
As it looks now, I think I will reach _all_ of my targets, not just one, or a few.
Wish me luck!
ranger
Last was year was about that 1000$, if you rowed any of your stated goals, I would have lost and you had won the double amount, If you broke a lightweight 6.40 but stayed above your own 2k goal it was a breakeven.
That was the 6.16/6.40 zone
The result was close but also clear 6.41, so I won, you owe me that 1000 $, Chicago has nothing to do with it.............
See: http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9742&start=0
The other bet was not a bet, but more a promise from my side and it was not about this year, but I gave you the change to row any of your stated goals in your profile, at any point in your life, the ones pointing to a 6.16 2k.
No time restictions.
clear proof of your weight status.
and clear proof of the row.
So the situation is clear, you owe me that 1000 dollar, but after you have settled that bet, you can win that back 3 fold.
Good luck with your row, the WR is possible for you, but it is also still far from your goals. Those are without a doubt unreachable. And not only for you but for every man your size and age.
So if you choose to pay your debt PM me.Notice Ranger's rewriting of history here. Ranger now has Henry losing the bet. According to Ranger, Henry bet that Ranger would row 6:40 and since Ranger rowed 6:41 Henry lost the bet.Ranger wrote: Feb 17, 2010: Yes, exactly.
I just prefer to pay you the bet I lost last year with my rowing winnings from this year, so that my wife doesn't kill me.
Marriages are cooperative ventures, you know.
Given that I have been married for 35 years, I would hate to end a good thing on a rowing bet.
Males.
What good are they?
It is amazing that good women put up with us.
April 26, 2010: Sure, I'll owe the $1K bet if I fail to hit my targets when I am fully trained. But not until then. That won't be long now.
Nov 17, 2010: I'll pay the bet when I lose it. I haven't lost the bet.
I am sure that Henry will pay up the $2000 he will owe me when I win. He is a stand-up guy. The bet should certainly be resolved this winter, when I will reach all of my goals.
Feb 14, 2011: Just in the natural course of this training, I should hit all of my distance targets and therefore collect my $2000 from Henry this spring.
August 3, 2011:You were betting on nothin', Henry. I was working on technique and not even preparing to race.hjs wrote: Remember the bet I made and won a few years back
--snip--You bet that, without preparing for it, I would row 6:40, and I pulled 6:41. Good goin', dude.
NO, moronboy, the Charles is NOT raced at AT. Christ just when we think you couldn't get dumber you go and surprise us. Could someone please put us out of rangerboy's misery??ranger wrote:Not sure why.leadville wrote:
you are
a) rowing with 180cm oars;
b) have so much crossover your hands are over the opposite gunnels at midstroke; or
c) have removed 90% of the blade from the shaft; or
d) some combination of the above.
I'll do a FM OTErg at 24 spm. A FM is done at UT2.
Many people do the Head of the Charles at 30 spm. 5K is done at AT.
Etc.
ranger
Hey Byron - will be there in early september, and hope to get out on the river with you. will let you know.Byron Drachman wrote:Hi Leadville,
Byron -- as always, thanks for the historical (or is that hyster-ical) reference.
alas, the people who, in their wisdom decided to hold Master's Nationals in OKC seemed to have ignored common weather patterns, which predict a temp 106 for the event...
a temperature at which even rangerboy could conceivably make weight! and thereby been able to race five other guys for the national championship!
https://www.regattacentral.com/regatta/ ... vent_id=56
Dang, I see what you mean. I just looked at the banner at regattacentral showing the temperatures at OKC:
Today
108/81
Tomorrow
112/83
Thursday
108/79
Friday
106/81
I see you are in listed in event 58 so they got your registration OK. You're lucky because they obviously lost Ranger's registration. That's a disgrace. They obviously need to get better organized.
Are you passing through Lansing this year? If we go for a row I can show you the exact spot of Ranger's infamous collision. Maybe we could put up a WARNING RANGER CROSSING sign at that one and only spot on the course where there is a gentle curve.
well, you're wrong again, rangerboy - I not only doubt it, I KNOW you can't row a 6:40.ranger wrote:Roy--
I don't think anyone would doubt that I can pull 6:40, fully prepared, rowing well at low drag.
For that bit of nay-saying, there are no stakes at all.
ranger
Sending that Rangerism through Klingon and back to English it becomes.NavigationHazard wrote:Byron, the translation from Rangerspeak is "And he saith unto the referees, follow me down thy courses and I will make thee fishers of men."ranger wrote:After this fall, I won't have any work conflicts in the fall, so it will be much easier for me, in practical terms, to follow a circuit of head racing each fall, including the Head of the Charles.
GoogleXlate wrote:I'm not doing any distance pieces, I have no intention of ever rowing a FM. I won't enter any races on the water, I've got too big a yellow stripe. I'll continue to lie about my ergo performances and futz about in my boat with my uncalibrated speed coach.
Mr Drachman, sir, you should be banned for a week for misquoting our hero. I won't tell PaulH if you don't.Byron Drachman wrote:Here is my concession to computer safety: You know how they make spill-proof cups for babies and toddlers? Well, I use a Thermos that is fairly spill proof. You have to push a lever in order to drink from the container. Like our hero's famous stroke, you need to use separated levers. First you squeeze the handle, then you drink. In 2003 I used to make a mess of it, but I now drink well.
