Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Ranger- What kind of on the water training are you doing?
Is that lake long enough to row for 30 minutes without turning?

Sure.

I would say the lake is about 500 miles, north to south, perhaps 1000 miles around the perimeter.

That's a pretty nice row, no?



If you don't know Lake Michigan, you should check it out.

Pretty nice body of water.

Wikipedia tells us that it is about the size of West Virginia.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Michigan

Have you ever heard of Chicago?

Or Milwaukee?

The five million people in Chicago and Milwaukee live on the shores of Lake Michigan.

The Mackinac bridge is also one of the wonders of the world, an engineering feat that fascinated scientists for decades, until it was finally accomplished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinac_Bridge

ranger

[Citroen]

I would say the lake is about 500 miles, north to south, perhaps 1000 miles around the perimeter.

So using applied Rangermath, in that case it has zero width. You could have looked it up in that WikiPedia entry you cite. Lake Michigan: Max. length: 307 mi (494 km), Max. width 118 mi (190 km).

TWAT.

[Citroen]

The bridge at Mackinaw is also one of the wonder of the world, an engineering feat that fascinated scientists for decades, until it was finally accomplished.

Hardly a wonder. It's not even in the middle of the list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lo ... idge_spans

[johnlvs2run]

Lake Michigan has an average length of 306 miles, and has a shoreline of 1,640 miles around including the islands.

There's a book called "A 1000 Mile Walk on the Beach", so there must be a 1000 mile route.

[NavigationHazard]

Give me an effin break. On those occasions where he rows on the big lake it's in Europe Bay. It's visible on the Google link I posted earlier. As for whether you can row for 30 minutes there without turning, of course you can. If you row slowly enough.

Forgot to add. It tales an hour to go round Europe Bay by rangercycle, so it must be 20 miles across.

[johnlvs2run]

A 6:29.7 2K @ 12 spm, without even preparing for it, when I was 55.

Rich,

I am extremely impressed. Do you happen to have a video of this feat?

[lancs]

The next demonstration will be a FM @ 1:48 (or faster).

But since you can't do 5000m @ 1:48 then how will you get to 42,195m at a pace you can't sustain?

Dougie--

I do 1:44-1:48 @ 24 spm with a HR of 155 bpm.

AT for me is 180 bpm.

A 5K is AT.

This garbled answer still doesn't explain your complete and utter absolute inability to get past 5k at your intended FM pace.

I'm genuinely interested in hearing your thoughts on why this may be.

Why can't you now row a 5k quicker than 18 minutes?

[ranger]

A 6:29.7 2K @ 12 spm, without even preparing for it, when I was 55.

Rich,

I am extremely impressed. Do you happen to have a video of this feat?

No video, but plenty of witnesses.

Baltimore Burn, 2006.

ranger

[ranger]

On those occasions where he rows on the big lake it's in Europe Bay

Nope.

When the wind is calm, or from the south, I can row from Garrett Bay to Newport Bay, quite a distance.

ranger

[johnlvs2run]

A 6:29.7 2K @ 12 spm, without even preparing for it, when I was 55.

Rich,

I am extremely impressed. Do you happen to have a video of this feat?

No video, but plenty of witnesses.

Baltimore Burn, 2006.

ranger

That is awesome.

[whp4]

A 6:29.7 2K @ 12 spm, without even preparing for it, when I was 55.

Rich,

I am extremely impressed. Do you happen to have a video of this feat?

No video, but plenty of witnesses.

Baltimore Burn, 2006.

ranger

You didn't row at 12 spm You don't have any witnesses who will attest to the piece being done at 12 SPI, either.

[lancs]

The next demonstration will be a FM @ 1:48 (or faster).

But since you can't do 5000m @ 1:48 then how will you get to 42,195m at a pace you can't sustain?

Dougie--

I do 1:44-1:48 @ 24 spm with a HR of 155 bpm.

AT for me is 180 bpm.

A 5K is AT.

Hi Prof. My question earlier may have got lost within other replies so I'm repeating it.

Why can't you now row a 5k quicker than 18 minutes?

[ranger]

BTW, if your fitness is sky high, that is, if you row OTErg for 20K a day,, and in this rowing, bust ass amazingly, the only thing that matters when you row OTW is how far you move the boat on each stroke--that is, MPS, SPI, etc.

I now do about 7.5 SPI OTW.

I am working toward 8 SPI.

Watch out!

That's as good as anyone.

ranger

[Fred]

Why can't you now row a 5k quicker than 18 minutes?

Rich will never answer that question when phrased in that manner

Did X back in Y, much better than that now.
Not interested in a 18 min 5k, his goal is Z
Racing your training is ruinous

but never a straight answer

[NavigationHazard]

On those occasions where he rows on the big lake it's in Europe Bay

Nope.

When the wind is calm, or from the south, I can row from Garrett Bay to Newport Bay, quite a distance.

ranger

Fraud. You can row on the Panama Canal too, when the wind is calm or from the south and you're in full Glendower mode.* So can I, and so can any man. Not to mention the Volga estuary, Derwent Water, Eyre Lake (in season) and the moat around Angkor Wat. But you don't row from Garrett bay to Newport Bay. And you haven't. And you won't.



That's at least a 25k round trip. Perhaps you meant to say that you bicycle the distance, at 20 mph, without pedals, dressed as Walt Whitman, while playing the Haydn "drum roll" symphony on a concertina and composing sestinas in classical Aramaic.

Fraud.


* Henry IV Part 1 Act 3 scene 1, 52-58.