Ranger's training thread

[PaulH]

You've stated, a number of times, that you want to drive your daily training up to 20k OTE and the same OTW. And yet day after day, for the last few years at least, you report 12k OTE (as you did today). Do you ever expect to move that figure up to, say 12.1k as a start? Or do you think that one day you'll wake up and suddenly be doing 20k?

[ben990]

And your best 2K lately is 7:02.3.

Naw, just paddled that one.

Lately, I've been consistently doing 6:41, which is faster than any lightweight my age has ever rowed.

ranger

Naw, you didn't.

You are a lying jackass.

How many years ago was that "Lately, I've been consistently doing 6:41"?

Lately. you are doing 7:02.3. Congrats on that, Totally awesome. You rock, and you know it.

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[ranger]

These two assertions are hypothetical in your case.
As far as OTW goes, it is not clear that you have learned anything new.

Sorry, Mike.

But I consider your chances of winning the Head of the Charles much more "hypothetical" than mine.

If you can only do 1:48 pace for 5K OTErg, even with perfect rowing, OTW, 2:00 pace for 2K is a limit.

That's 12 seconds over erg times.

And when you are 60, it is not at all clear that you will be able to do 1:48/18:00 for 5K OTErg.

My target for 5K this year OTErg is 1:39/16:30.

ranger

[ranger]

You've stated, a number of times, that you want to drive your daily training up to 20k OTE and the same OTW. And yet day after day, for the last few years at least, you report 12k OTE (as you did today). Do you ever expect to move that figure up to, say 12.1k as a start? Or do you think that one day you'll wake up and suddenly be doing 20k?

I'll wake up and suddenly be doing 20K.



I could do 20K right now.

I am just choosing not to.

ranger

[ranger]

hey rangerboy - sixth time for this question - are you coming to master's nationals in OKC? or does that yellow streak extend southwest too?

I haven't decided about this yet.

I suspect that sprinting OTW is a bit premature for me at this point.

I don't have any experience with it.

ranger

[Citroen]

These two assertions are hypothetical in your case.
As far as OTW goes, it is not clear that you have learned anything new.

Sorry, Mike.

But I consider your chances of winning the Head of the Charles much more "hypothetical" than mine.

Mike's chances are 100% better than your's. He's not got a yellow streak, he'll tell he's entering, he'll enter, he'll turn up at the venue, he'll race and he'll accept the result (win, lose or draw, 1st place, 2nd place, 3rd place or unplaced) as a true sportsman.

You, on the other hand appear to have given up on racing on the ergo and haven't got over your crash on the water. You've managed one dismal anchor hauling (with breaks) [or paddling as you like to describe it] race in 7:02.3 in recent memory. You're still harking back on some results from eight years ago.

You're a loser. Mike VB and Rocket Roy are sportsmen, get over it.

[ranger]

How many years ago was that "Lately, I've been consistently doing 6:41"?

2009 and 2010

ranger

[ranger]

Mike's chances are 100% better than your's.

Mike can't beat Anderson et al. over 5K right now, and every year that goes by, Anderson et al. will be handicapped 7.5 seconds.

ranger

[whp4]

As far as OTW goes, it is not clear that you have learned anything new.

I don't know.

That sums it all up!

If I can go along, 2;00 @ 27 spm for 5K, it seems to me that it shows that I have learned a whole bunch of things about moving a boat.

There's that if again! You can't, so why do you keep talking about it? You might as well be saying "if I can out row Xeno" or even "if I could beat Byron down a course with curves"!

[ranger]

Mike VB and Rocket Roy are sportsmen

Sure.

And so are you, I suspect.

But that doesn't have anything to do with chances of winning (anything).

Being a "sportsman" is the easiest thing in the world.

It's winning that's difficult.

Winning doesn't have anything to do with Christian ethics.

Ancient (Greek, Roman) ethics, sure.

But not Christian ethics.

The day the meek inherit the earth, Rocket Roy won't have a weight problem.



ranger

[Citroen]

Being a "sportsman" is the easiest thing in the world.

If it's so easy why did you slope off at BIRC without standing on the podium to collect your medal?

[ranger]

Being a "sportsman" is the easiest thing in the world.

If it's so easy why did you slope off at BIRC without standing on the podium to collect your medal?

I didn't think I won anything.

I just paddled the 2K.

That paddling the 2K won me a bronze is astonishing.

At the time, I had no idea.

ranger

[ranger]

You can't

Really?

Sorry, but OTW, when I rate 27 spm, I go 2:00 pace.

In the end, OTW, I think I'll rate _at least_ 27 spm for 5K.

First things first, though.

The first order of business is 20K OTErg just before dawn followed by 20K OTW just after dawn.

When I fall into that training regimen, day after day, as I think I soon will, the game is won.

Given how I row now, that is just _tooooooo_ good.

In order to be sure that they recover, most 60s lwts have to rest a few days after climbing some stairs.

ranger