bellboy:bellboy wrote: So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df.... you actually have the memory capacity of a goldfish
Please don't insult goldfish!
bellboy:bellboy wrote: So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df.... you actually have the memory capacity of a goldfish
mikvan52 wrote:bellboy:bellboy wrote: So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df.... you actually have the memory capacity of a goldfish
Please don't insult goldfish!
Max drag? The damper in the video is at about 5 - a long way from max.bellboy wrote:So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df.ranger wrote:Yes, _lots_ better.redzone wrote:See how many of the Ranger top 20 tips you can count here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rcureton#p/u/10/ntbp6b6tynE
I'm sure he's much better now though.
That was a year ago.
I was rowing at max drag.
ranger
Perhaps it was someone else, then, who hiccuped his way through a 2k at BIRC 2010 with the damper lever on 5-6 and a DF of maybe 140-150:ranger wrote:120 df. is just fine.bellboy wrote:So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df. It was all you could talk about two months ago.
For the last three years, I trained and raced at max drag (200+ df.).
So 120 df. is a _massive_ improvement.
95 df. was useful for certain purposes, but I think that 120 df. is best for me.
ranger
Yesterday, I was doing 1:50 @ 35 spm.ranger wrote:No.Byron Drachman wrote:So you now do 1:51@31 spm in your Fluid.
But that would be a nice goal.
8 SPI
ranger
Yes, I wasn't at max drag at BIRC 2010.Bob S. wrote:Max drag? The damper in the video is at about 5 - a long way from max.
Bob S.
Lies, lies and more liesranger wrote:Yes, I wasn't at max drag at BIRC 2010.Bob S. wrote:Max drag? The damper in the video is at about 5 - a long way from max.
Bob S.
Then again, I didn't have any energy, so it didn't matter much.
In both 2009 and 2010, I did a lwt 6:41 at max drag.
That was clearly a mistake.
I think I would have done sub-6:30 at a lower drag, given that I got my weight right a couple of times and had some energy.
Live and learn.
I am _very_ settled on 120 df. now.
Feels like my boat.
In 2009 and 2010, I had yet learned how the use the full slide, keep an upright posture at the catch, keep my hips forward when I drive with my legs, relax my shoulders and core at the catch, relax my shoulders when I swing my back, etc.
These are the things that take advantage of low drag.
ranger
We all should acknowledge on thing and give ranger some credit....> When TSO sculls he oxygenates the water much more than your average sculler.bellboy wrote:mikvan52 wrote:bellboy:bellboy wrote: So you are back up to 120df again. Whatever happened to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that was 95df.... you actually have the memory capacity of a goldfish
Please don't insult goldfish!
Sorry Mike. Iv already had PETA on the phone berating me for that comment. Apparently they are aware of our erstwhile hero and they suspect he has something to do with the rapidly diminshing fish stocks in Michigan. His famed "technique" may just be tipping the ecological balance in a tragic new direction.
So, while not having mastered the things that take advantage of low drag, you think you would have been more than 11 seconds faster by rowing at lower drag? If only everyone realized that there was so much time to be gained just by lowering the drag, without making any other change!ranger wrote: In both 2009 and 2010, I did a lwt 6:41 at max drag.
That was clearly a mistake.
I think I would have done sub-6:30 at a lower drag, given that I got my weight right a couple of times and had some energy.
...
In 2009 and 2010, I had yet learned how the use the full slide, keep an upright posture at the catch, keep my hips forward when I drive with my legs, relax my shoulders and core at the catch, relax my shoulders when I swing my back, etc.
These are the things that take advantage of low drag.
Sure.mikvan52 wrote:are you going to grace a 5k OTW
Since 2003, I have made the _20_ changes I listed this morning.PaulH wrote: If only everyone realized that there was so much time to be gained just by lowering the drag, without making any other change!
This is the kind of Ranger logic I just love. He's so inferior to Mike OTW that it's not even worth discussing and yet he talks about being '_waaay_' better than him.ranger wrote:So, still _waaay_ better than you.
If you can only do 1:48 for 5K OTErg, as you do, you are pretty limited OTW.
Your 2:03 or so is pretty much a limit.
15 seconds per 500m over your erg time.
I'll do a 5K @ 1:39 OTErg.
So, my limit OTW for 5K is 1:54.
ranger
You give him too much credit. At 1:48, he would handle down around 2500 meters or so. And then get a drink or four. And then post garbage and post garbage and post garbage and post garbage and ... well, you get the point.lancs wrote:This is the kind of Ranger logic I just love. He's so inferior to Mike OTW that it's not even worth discussing and yet he talks about being '_waaay_' better than him.ranger wrote:So, still _waaay_ better than you.
If you can only do 1:48 for 5K OTErg, as you do, you are pretty limited OTW.
Your 2:03 or so is pretty much a limit.
15 seconds per 500m over your erg time.
I'll do a 5K @ 1:39 OTErg.
So, my limit OTW for 5K is 1:54.
ranger
Presumably even he can see this?
You'd think?
Anyway Prof, back to more pressing matters. How's that 1:48 FM coming along? Have you figured out a way to stop yourself from handling down at around 5k at your FM pace?
That's a new vPB everybody! Since 2003, when ranger was rowing around 6:30, he's improved by 20 lots of 2 seconds, giving us a new vPB of 5:50. Congratulations, ranger; I confess I didn't think you could do it, but blasting through the vSix vMinute vBarrier like that is awe inspiring!ranger wrote:Since 2003, I have made the _20_ changes I listed this morning.PaulH wrote: If only everyone realized that there was so much time to be gained just by lowering the drag, without making any other change!
Each of these changes is worth a couple of seconds over 2K, although this gain might not be demonstrable in full until all the changes are made.
Changes in technique are interdependent.
As in any mechanical/dynamic system, you only get the full benefit when you have all of the parts functioning smoothly together.
ranger
All these numbers and correlations you've snatched out of thin air... (wrong)ranger wrote:Sure.mikvan52 wrote:are you going to grace a 5k OTW
The Head of the Charles.
I think I might be able to do 1:55 pace for 5K on a familiar course, sub-2:00 for 5K on an unfamiliar course.
So, still _waaay_ better than you.
If you can only do 1:48 for 5K OTErg, as you do, you are pretty limited OTW.
(snip)