Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

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Hooray! ranger is back!

I propose you update your signature:

Rich Cureton - trying to get better since 2006 (6:29 ... and then 6:41 ... and now 7:02.3)

Your bone-headed approach to training is just what is wrong with this forum, and perhaps with the indoor rowing community more generally.

Racing doesn't make anyone any better.

Those who just train to race get worse and worse--precipitously.

Avoiding this odd view of training, I'll pull a lwt 6:16 at 60.

If I had just prepared to race for the last 10 years, the prediction would be 6:45.

ranger

[ben990]

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Hooray! ranger is back!

I propose you update your signature:

Rich Cureton - trying to get better since 2006 (6:29 ... and then 6:41 ... and now 7:02.3)

Your bone-headed approach to training is just what is wrong with this forum, and perhaps with the indoor rowing community more generally.

Racing doesn't make anyone any better.

Those who just train to race get worse and worse--precipitously.

Avoiding this odd view of training, I'll pull a lwt 6:16 at 60.

If I had just prepared to race for the last 10 years, the prediction would be 6:45.

ranger

Um, you don't know anything at all about my training. Odd that you would say it is bone-headed. I will say that I have made quite a bit of progress over the past couple years, while you have been declining with age: 6:29 ... 6:41 ... and now 7:02.3 - Yikes! Keep up your current training, and I think you will be able to snag that 7:08 you seem to be on track for in 2012.

Welcome back. And please be a little more careful quoting others.

[mrfit]

March 14th

Well, finally, we are just a few weeks and one long row away from an end to all the negative jabber here.

Lordy.

ranger

I don't think so....you still amuse us MONTHS later. The joy forumites express poking at your shameless self-made arena of mendacity and illusion continues.

What did I call it?

The ranger-go-round, that's it!

Fun..pointless.

[Byron Drachman]

June 11, 2008: I will race a new elite 1x (not my tub of a Peinert) in the Nationals when I am 60.

June 24, 2008: I'll do the Head of the Charles when I am 60.

March 14, 2010: I am going to stay a stable 160 lbs. this summer so that I can kick Mike VB's butt OTW in my 1x at the Nationals.

Feb 7, 2011: I will be racing--both OTErg in the winter and OTW in the spring, summer, and fall--for the rest of my life.

Yesterday I did 30K OTW. Part of my row yesterday was doing these drills: Feather on one side while keeping the blade squared on the other side for 30 strokes, then the same with switched sides for the next 30 strokes, then 30 strokes with both sides squared. Also I did this drill: While the legs are straight after the finish, after the release feather, then gradually roll up to squared blades where the hands are forward and the body is forward but the legs are still straight. Then feather and then do a gradual roll up to squared blades at the catch. So you feather and square the blades twice during the recovery. These drills work on hand position, balance, and controlling the blades.

Today there were thunderstorms nearby so I stayed close to the dock and only got in about 6K before I heard thunder and hurried to the dock.

I am ready. If you show up at one of the Grand Rapids regattas or at Ann Arbor, you'll see me in a racing shell using modern oars with larger blades that actually grab water. I'm hoping we'll be in the same heat.

Cue for I'll be in Wisconsin and those places are too far away so I won't actually be doing any OTW regattas but I will continue with my virtual OTW regattas, all in good time, I'll race when I'm ready but not before, I'm delighted with my progress, yakity, yakity

[atklein90]

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Hooray! ranger is back!

I propose you update your signature:

Rich Cureton - trying to get better since 2006 (6:29 ... and then 6:41 ... and now 7:02.3)

Your bone-headed approach to training is just what is wrong with this forum, and perhaps with the indoor rowing community more generally.

Racing doesn't make anyone any better.

Those who just train to race get worse and worse--precipitously.

Avoiding this odd view of training, I'll pull a lwt 6:16 at 60.

If I had just prepared to race for the last 10 years, the prediction would be 6:45.

ranger

And yet, you were only capable of rowing a 7:02! Maybe you should stick with the 'preparing to race' training methodology. 6:45 would have been substantially better than your pathetic performance!

Welcome back loser. How long will it be before you're banned again? Hopefully you've had a few minutes during the ban to actually spend some time on the erg, rather than post useless garbage on the internet!

[aharmer]

Should I walk barefoot across this pretty long stretch of hot coals, or not?

Interesting analogy. This one is almost as good as when you compared your training to curing cancer. Which, by the way, solidifies you as the world's biggest asshole to go along with liar, welsher, etc.

[ranger]

Interesting analogy.

Yes--and appropriate.

Try doing a WR-level 2K without any distance rowing or AT, TR, and AN intervals, just on the basis of low rate rowing, working on technique.

See how it feels.

No one does it--for good reason.

So, choosing not to do it myself, now and again, is entirely understandable.

ranger

[ranger]

And yet, you were only capable of rowing a 7:02!

Naw.

It is clear that--rowing badly, at max drag, without any distance rowing, or AT, TR, or AN intervals, I am capable of around a lwt 6:41, which I did in 2009 and 2010.

No lwt 58 and 59 has ever rowed that fast--fully prepared.

Everyone gets about a dozen seconds over 2K from a few months of good race preparation--distance rowing, distance trials, and anaerobic intervals.

I don't know what rowing well at low drag is worth, but I suspect about the same.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

So I am rowing right on my target--a 1:34/6:16 2K.

My first piece of race preparation will be a FM at 1:48/2:32 (or perhaps quite a bit faster).

A FM at 1:48 predicts a 6:16 2K, and is six seconds per 500m under the 50s hwt FM WR (a dozen seconds per 500m under the 60s hwt FM WR).

ranger

[ben990]

And yet, you were only capable of rowing a 7:02!

Naw.

It is clear that--rowing badly, at max drag, without any distance rowing, or AT, TR, or AN intervals, I am capable of around a lwt 6:41, which I did in 2009 and 2010.

No lwt 58 and 59 has ever rowed that fast--fully prepared.

Everyone gets about a dozen seconds over 2K from a few months of good race preparation--distance rowing, distance trials, and anaerobic intervals.

I don't know what rowing well at low drag is worth, but I suspect about the same.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

So I am rowing right on my target--a 1:34/6:16 2K.

My first piece of race preparation will be a FM at 1:482:32 (or perhaps well below).

A FM at 1:48 predicts a 6:16 2K, is six seconds per 500m under the 50s hwt FM WR and a dozen seconds per 500m under the 60s hwt FM WR.

ranger

Naw.

It is clear that you are capable of a 7:02.3.

[ranger]

I am ready.

I am happy to hear that Byron.

Good luck in your races.

But your rowing has nothing to do with mine.

No, I won't be in Wisconsin during the fall.

I will be here in Ann Arbor doing head races.

ranger

[bellboy]

I am ready.

I am happy to hear that Byron.

Good luck in your races.

But your rowing has nothing to do with mine.

No, I won't be in Wisconsin during the fall.

I will be here in Ann Arbor doing head races.

ranger

Have you alerted the coastguards?

[jliddil]

Interesting analogy.

Yes--and appropriate.
ranger

Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewalking

[eliotsmith]

So, sometimes, I just don't feel up for racing...

But when you do, look out!

Well, I'm hittin' it too hard
My stones won't take
I get up in the mornin'
But it's too early to wake
First it's hello, goodbye
Then push and then crash
But we're all gonna make it
At that million dollar bash

Eliot

[leadville]

I am ready.

I am happy to hear that Byron.

Good luck in your races.

But your rowing has nothing to do with mine.

No, I won't be in Wisconsin during the fall.

I will be here in Ann Arbor doing head races.

ranger

No you won't, rangerboy. You'll still be hiding in your basement fantasizing about Danish lightweights and lying your bulbous buttocks off about your training.

Byron, will you be coming to OKC for master's nationals this summer? hope to see you there!

[Bob S.]

Whoops! I got hooked on the lure. I was just doing a check on the most recent blog entry and, when I saw that there were 12 comments (up from 6), I had to take a look. Big Mistake! Almost all of them were from the blog owner. Now it is not uncommon to blog owners to response to comments, but these were not responses, they were just the s-o-s (not to be confused with SOS).

Bob S.