Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by hjs » May 17th, 2011, 7:02 am

Can't we follow the uk forum blog example ?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 8:40 am

Carl Watts wrote:I guess thats why you jumped on an Erg with only your "fitness" and by your own admission "Rowing Badly" and set a WR all those years ago.
Sure.

Fitness can get you a long way, especially if you are old.

But as I am reminded by you folks so often, while I have three WR rows, I don't hold any WRs.

I haven't yet rowed well enough over 2K, at weight and fully prepared, to have one.

I am getting there now, though.

Fully prepared and rowing well, the limit of my potential, even at 60, is 1:34/6:16.

That 6:16 at 60 is the equivalent of 5:59 at 50, not 6:28.

The difference is right around seven seconds per 500m.

That's what I get over 2K from rowing well.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » May 17th, 2011, 9:08 am

Who are Alexc25 and lightweight Management? Are you mucking around with quotes again?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » May 17th, 2011, 9:15 am

He's quoting from a different thread, which is confusing, but he's attributing it (broadly) correctly.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » May 17th, 2011, 9:27 am

Ah the random nature of Von ManBatt. It's like having a conversation with my Auntie Doreen.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ben990 » May 17th, 2011, 10:38 am

bellboy wrote:Ah the random nature of Von ManBatt. It's like having a conversation with my Auntie Doreen.
I would hope that your sweet Aunt Doreen doesn't lie as much as Von ManBatt. And I bet that she pays her bets and keeps her word.

And I am sure when she rows that she does she doesn't drop the handle, or take breaks...
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 11:16 am

The great omission from this program, I think, is just some long sustained rowing at 24 spm, all the way up to a FM.

This is Level 3 rowing in the WP.

If you are a lightweight who rows well, this Level 3 rowing is done at 1:44 (13 SPI).

The long rowing at 19 spm is Level 4, not Level 3.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 11:21 am

PaulH wrote:He's quoting from a different thread, which is confusing, but he's attributing it (broadly) correctly.
Sure.

But it's not my choice.

I am not allowed to comment on any other thread.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » May 17th, 2011, 11:35 am

ranger wrote:
PaulH wrote:He's quoting from a different thread, which is confusing, but he's attributing it (broadly) correctly.
Sure.

But it's not my choice.

I am not allowed to comment on any other thread.

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Post some verifiable training times then. Easy.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 12:34 pm

ben990 wrote:I would hope that your sweet Aunt Doreen doesn't lie as much as Von ManBatt.
Naw.

It ain't at all an old wives' tale that rowing well is worth seven seconds per 500m.

If you don't know it's true, it is no loss but yours.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 12:37 pm

bellboy wrote:Post some verifiable training times then. Easy.
My first race will be a FM.

Sure.

As a 60s lwt, it is easy to post a FM @ 2:00 (the 60s lwt FM WR).

No skill, talent, or training is necessary.

But as a 60s lwt, it is not at all easy to post a FM @ 1:44 (the Open hwt FM WR).

To do that takes quite a bit of skill, talent, and training.

I am making good progress on it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » May 17th, 2011, 12:43 pm

bellboy wrote:Who are Alexc25 and lightweight Management? Are you mucking around with quotes again?
Read the forum, numb-nuts.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » May 17th, 2011, 12:58 pm

ranger wrote:
PaulH wrote:He's quoting from a different thread, which is confusing, but he's attributing it (broadly) correctly.
Sure.

But it's not my choice.

I am not allowed to comment on any other thread.

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Really? Can you give an example of when you've been prevented?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » May 17th, 2011, 2:21 pm

ranger wrote:As a 60s lwt, it is easy to post a FM @ 2:00 (the 60s lwt FM WR).
I'm curious why you post things like this. The last time you claimed to be able to do this Byron won a hat from you (although you first inclination was not to honor your bet). Since then you have not tried a FM of any kind.

I would expect a person who has been on the verge of doing a 1:48 FM could easily do a 2:00 FM ... yet you can't ... could you offer your theories on why this is so?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by whp4 » May 17th, 2011, 2:32 pm

JimR wrote:
ranger wrote:As a 60s lwt, it is easy to post a FM @ 2:00 (the 60s lwt FM WR).
I'm curious why you post things like this. The last time you claimed to be able to do this Byron won a hat from you (although you first inclination was not to honor your bet). Since then you have not tried a FM of any kind.

I would expect a person who has been on the verge of doing a 1:48 FM could easily do a 2:00 FM ... yet you can't ... could you offer your theories on why this is so?

JimR
Well, he could, of course, but his target is much better than that, so there would be no point in going so slowly, but he's not yet ready to do the series of distance trials leading into his run at his target, he's still getting used to the new stroke and drag factor, and it was cold in Ann Arbor the other day, and no one likes him, but he's rowing right at his targets and everything is going great, you've just got to be patient because these things don't happen on a schedule, although he's already rowing better than anyone his age and occasional weight has ever done, where did I put that Ranger bingo card... :lol:

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