Thanks Neil. Focus on L1 sessions may very well be the answer. Especially 4x1k for me....depending on how my legs feel in the morning tomorrow, I may do a 500m trial. But I did legs this morning at the gym, so they may be too sore to try to go all out....the shorter L1 distances seem to be easier for me than the longer ones, at least when doing workouts.nharrigan wrote:Great job on the 2k.
From my understanding of the WP, the focus is the L1 sessions. I'd have to agree with Henry about extending the L2 stuff. Quality over quantity.
-Neil
A New Training Thread
Re: A New Training Thread
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
I've tried to stay away from heavy equate lately, only because I have lower back issues. I'm still doing deeds and straight leg deeds, but not very heavy (they don't seem to bother my back too much). I haven't done any power cleans in a while, but that may be a good thought too!aharmer wrote:Do you have any interest in heavy powerlifting? You do a lot of weight training but unless I'm not mistaken you don't do a lot of heavy squats, deads, powercleans. If I'm right, maybe that would give you some additional top end strength that could help the erg power. Good luck, looking forward to seeing the new plan!
I think I'll try to adjust my weight sessions a bit for the next few weeks and see how it feels.
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Saturday April 23
No time trial today. Bad storms last night, knocked out the power and I ended up having to deal with the dog, and other issues all night, so didn't really have time this morning before I went to the gym. Besides, my legs are pretty tired after yesterdays workout, so probably wouldn't have been the best idea. Maybe on Monday, in replace of my normal L1 workout. I still need to try to get a 1K, and 500 time trial in before the end of the month. I'd like to get a 30 minute trial in too, but I guess I'll have to wait to see how I feel this week. Long L4 tomorrow.
Gym:
Core: 20 minutes
Superset: (no rest at all)
Powercleans: 3x6, 115
Toes to Bar: 3x10
Single Arm Kettlebell Swings: 3x12
Chest: (My right should has been bugging me since last Saturday. Not sure if it's the rotator or what, but I stayed a little light on stuff today because of it)
Bench Press: 135x15, 185x12, 195x10, 205x8
Incline DB Press: 3x10, 70
Incline DB Fly: 2x12, 40
Shoulders:
Superset:
Standing DB Military: 35x10, 37x10, 40x10, 42x10
DB Side Lateral Raise: 4x10, 20lbs
Triceps/Biceps:
Skull Crusher superset w/DB Curl: 3x10, 100lbs/ 3x12, 35lbs
Overhead DB Extension superset w/DB Hammer Curl: 3x10, 25lbs/3x10, 30lbs
Pushdowns superset w/Rope curls: 3x15, 160lbs/3x15, 70lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
No time trial today. Bad storms last night, knocked out the power and I ended up having to deal with the dog, and other issues all night, so didn't really have time this morning before I went to the gym. Besides, my legs are pretty tired after yesterdays workout, so probably wouldn't have been the best idea. Maybe on Monday, in replace of my normal L1 workout. I still need to try to get a 1K, and 500 time trial in before the end of the month. I'd like to get a 30 minute trial in too, but I guess I'll have to wait to see how I feel this week. Long L4 tomorrow.
Gym:
Core: 20 minutes
Superset: (no rest at all)
Powercleans: 3x6, 115
Toes to Bar: 3x10
Single Arm Kettlebell Swings: 3x12
Chest: (My right should has been bugging me since last Saturday. Not sure if it's the rotator or what, but I stayed a little light on stuff today because of it)
Bench Press: 135x15, 185x12, 195x10, 205x8
Incline DB Press: 3x10, 70
Incline DB Fly: 2x12, 40
Shoulders:
Superset:
Standing DB Military: 35x10, 37x10, 40x10, 42x10
DB Side Lateral Raise: 4x10, 20lbs
Triceps/Biceps:
Skull Crusher superset w/DB Curl: 3x10, 100lbs/ 3x12, 35lbs
Overhead DB Extension superset w/DB Hammer Curl: 3x10, 25lbs/3x10, 30lbs
Pushdowns superset w/Rope curls: 3x15, 160lbs/3x15, 70lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Sunday April 24
L4 - 70min - 180, 180, 184, 188, 184, 188, 180
5 min warmup - 1,311meters
14.1actual mps
1:53.4/500 actual pace
18,514 actual meters
5 min cooldown - 1,232meters
Should have been 14.2mps today overall. Slightly under. The workout felt tough, but good. I thought for sure I would hit the targeted mps as all of the intervals were at or below the target. Overall, it came out to 29 extra strokes, and 287 extra meters over the target.
Ending Bodyweight: 213.5lbs (hopefully I will be able to control myself around the Easter junkfood today so I don't end up at 217 tomorrow morning!)
L4 - 70min - 180, 180, 184, 188, 184, 188, 180
5 min warmup - 1,311meters
14.1actual mps
1:53.4/500 actual pace
18,514 actual meters
5 min cooldown - 1,232meters
Should have been 14.2mps today overall. Slightly under. The workout felt tough, but good. I thought for sure I would hit the targeted mps as all of the intervals were at or below the target. Overall, it came out to 29 extra strokes, and 287 extra meters over the target.
Ending Bodyweight: 213.5lbs (hopefully I will be able to control myself around the Easter junkfood today so I don't end up at 217 tomorrow morning!)
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Monday April 25
L1
Warmup - 1500m
1K - 1:39.8, r31
900 - 1:38.7, r31
800 - 1:37.6, r32
700 - 1:36.6, r33
600 - 1:35.9, r33
500 - 1:34.9, r34
400 - 1:33.9, r34
300 - 1:32.8, r34
200 - 1:31.5, r34
100 - 1:30.5, r37
Overall average: 1:36.8
100m (45sec) rest between each interval
Cooldown - 1000m
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Superset:
Single Leg Box Sqaut: 3x12, 10lbs
Single Leg RDL: 3x12, 27.5lbs
Single Arm Kettlebell Swing: 3x12
Wallball: 3x12, 20lbs
Back:
Superset:
Powercleans: 3x5, 135lbs
Pullups: 3x10
Bentover DB Lateral Raise: 3x10, 27.5lbs
Deadlifts: 225x10, 275x8, 295x6, 315x4
Biceps:
Superset:
Reverse Pullup: 2x12 (actually a back exercise)
BB Curl: 2x8, 95lbs
DB Hammer Curl: 2x10, 27.5lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 215.5 (not as bad as I thought it would be, but I definitely ate WAY too much yesterday at my inlaws Easter dinner).
Overall a decent workout. I didn't push the erg as hard as I could have as I just wasn't sure how it would go with such limited rest. I liked the workout though...5500 total meters of work...
L1
Warmup - 1500m
1K - 1:39.8, r31
900 - 1:38.7, r31
800 - 1:37.6, r32
700 - 1:36.6, r33
600 - 1:35.9, r33
500 - 1:34.9, r34
400 - 1:33.9, r34
300 - 1:32.8, r34
200 - 1:31.5, r34
100 - 1:30.5, r37
Overall average: 1:36.8
100m (45sec) rest between each interval
Cooldown - 1000m
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Superset:
Single Leg Box Sqaut: 3x12, 10lbs
Single Leg RDL: 3x12, 27.5lbs
Single Arm Kettlebell Swing: 3x12
Wallball: 3x12, 20lbs
Back:
Superset:
Powercleans: 3x5, 135lbs
Pullups: 3x10
Bentover DB Lateral Raise: 3x10, 27.5lbs
Deadlifts: 225x10, 275x8, 295x6, 315x4
Biceps:
Superset:
Reverse Pullup: 2x12 (actually a back exercise)
BB Curl: 2x8, 95lbs
DB Hammer Curl: 2x10, 27.5lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 215.5 (not as bad as I thought it would be, but I definitely ate WAY too much yesterday at my inlaws Easter dinner).
Overall a decent workout. I didn't push the erg as hard as I could have as I just wasn't sure how it would go with such limited rest. I liked the workout though...5500 total meters of work...
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Great progression of decreasing pace! It would give close to a straight line graph. This means that your real output, as would be measured by watts, would show an increasing increase.atklein90 wrote:
1K - 1:39.8, r31
900 - 1:38.7, r31
800 - 1:37.6, r32
700 - 1:36.6, r33
600 - 1:35.9, r33
500 - 1:34.9, r34
400 - 1:33.9, r34
300 - 1:32.8, r34
200 - 1:31.5, r34
100 - 1:30.5, r37
Re: A New Training Thread
Thursday April 26
L3:
1000m warmup
5K (1:50.0), 24spm, ending HR=134
4K (1:49.6), 24spm, ending HR=134
3K (1:48.9), 25spm, ending HR=137
2 minute passive rest between reps
1000m cooldown
Overall this felt pretty good. I think I benefited a bit from not going quite so hard yesterday, not knowing how that workout would go. So today I felt a little more refreshed than I have recently.
I passed the 3.0Million meter mark for the season/year today. Definitely happy with that as that was my other goal for the year!
Ending Bodyweight: 215.0
L3:
1000m warmup
5K (1:50.0), 24spm, ending HR=134
4K (1:49.6), 24spm, ending HR=134
3K (1:48.9), 25spm, ending HR=137
2 minute passive rest between reps
1000m cooldown
Overall this felt pretty good. I think I benefited a bit from not going quite so hard yesterday, not knowing how that workout would go. So today I felt a little more refreshed than I have recently.
I passed the 3.0Million meter mark for the season/year today. Definitely happy with that as that was my other goal for the year!
Ending Bodyweight: 215.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Thursday April 28
L2 - 5x1500
1500m warmup
1) 1:40.0, r32, HR=157
2) 1:39.6, r31, HR=160
3) 1:39.2, r31, HR=164
4) 1:38.7, r32, HR=167
5) 1:38.2, r32, HR=169
Overall average = 1:39.2
Cooldown = 500m
Overall, this was a 0.5 second improvement over the last time I did this workout, so I'm pretty happy with the continued progression. I also tried to keep my stroke rate down a little bit, which kind of came through on the second and third rep. Knowing that the end of the ranking year is coming up, I'm stuggling to keep motivated (I have this thought in the back of my head that I have a whole year to try to get to 6:15, so why rush!). Hopefully I can continue to keep this up for another month or so and can get to the goal....
Ending bodyweight: 214.0
L2 - 5x1500
1500m warmup
1) 1:40.0, r32, HR=157
2) 1:39.6, r31, HR=160
3) 1:39.2, r31, HR=164
4) 1:38.7, r32, HR=167
5) 1:38.2, r32, HR=169
Overall average = 1:39.2
Cooldown = 500m
Overall, this was a 0.5 second improvement over the last time I did this workout, so I'm pretty happy with the continued progression. I also tried to keep my stroke rate down a little bit, which kind of came through on the second and third rep. Knowing that the end of the ranking year is coming up, I'm stuggling to keep motivated (I have this thought in the back of my head that I have a whole year to try to get to 6:15, so why rush!). Hopefully I can continue to keep this up for another month or so and can get to the goal....
Ending bodyweight: 214.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Friday April 29
L4 -
Warmup - 1,032m
10'r16 - 1:56.5, 2,575m
10'r18 - 1:53.6, 2,641m
Pretty uneventful day on the erg. Late night last night as we attended a benefit for the Red Cross and heard Nando Parrado speak. Talk about an engaging speaker....much better than the movie. But, that lead to sleeping in a bit too long this morning...
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Split Squat: 3x10, 50lbs
Straight Leg Deadlift: 3x10, 215lbs
Squat: 3x10, 135lbs (really light, but slow, deep reps)
Kettlebell Swings: 3x12
Back:
Bentover BB Row: 3x10, 135lbs
L-Pullup: 3x10
Pulldowns: 5x10, 175lbs
Straight Arm Pulldowns: 2x12, 75lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
L4 -
Warmup - 1,032m
10'r16 - 1:56.5, 2,575m
10'r18 - 1:53.6, 2,641m
Pretty uneventful day on the erg. Late night last night as we attended a benefit for the Red Cross and heard Nando Parrado speak. Talk about an engaging speaker....much better than the movie. But, that lead to sleeping in a bit too long this morning...
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Split Squat: 3x10, 50lbs
Straight Leg Deadlift: 3x10, 215lbs
Squat: 3x10, 135lbs (really light, but slow, deep reps)
Kettlebell Swings: 3x12
Back:
Bentover BB Row: 3x10, 135lbs
L-Pullup: 3x10
Pulldowns: 5x10, 175lbs
Straight Arm Pulldowns: 2x12, 75lbs
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Saturday April 30
No erg today, just went to the gym:
20min warmup - core exercises
Superset:
Power Cleans: 4x5, 135lbs
Knees to Elbows: 4x8
Single Arm Kettlebell Swings: 4x12
(No rest between any sets)
Chest:
Bench Press: 135x15, 185x12, 195x10, 205x8, 215x6
Incline DB Press: 3x10, 70lbs
Incline DB Fly: 2x12, 45lbs
Cable Fly: 2x12, 60lbs
Shoulders:
Standing DB Military Press: 3x10, 40lbs
DB Upright Row: 3x10, 35lbs
Triceps/Biceps:
Skull Crusher/DB Curl: 3x12(100lbs)/3x12(35lbs)
Pushdowns/Cable Curl: 3x12(170lbs)/3x12(100lbs)
Dips: 1x12 (this really hurt my shoulder)
DB Hammer Curl: 45lbs/40lbs/35lbs - 6 reps each, no rest
Ending Bodyweight: 216.0
Tomorrow I'm going to get strict on the Paleo diet and see if I can get my bodyfat back down and build a little more muscle. I'm sitting right around 9 or 10% bodyfat right now, which definitely isn't bad, but based on some of the junk I've been eating lately, I think I can get it down a lot lower...
No erg today, just went to the gym:
20min warmup - core exercises
Superset:
Power Cleans: 4x5, 135lbs
Knees to Elbows: 4x8
Single Arm Kettlebell Swings: 4x12
(No rest between any sets)
Chest:
Bench Press: 135x15, 185x12, 195x10, 205x8, 215x6
Incline DB Press: 3x10, 70lbs
Incline DB Fly: 2x12, 45lbs
Cable Fly: 2x12, 60lbs
Shoulders:
Standing DB Military Press: 3x10, 40lbs
DB Upright Row: 3x10, 35lbs
Triceps/Biceps:
Skull Crusher/DB Curl: 3x12(100lbs)/3x12(35lbs)
Pushdowns/Cable Curl: 3x12(170lbs)/3x12(100lbs)
Dips: 1x12 (this really hurt my shoulder)
DB Hammer Curl: 45lbs/40lbs/35lbs - 6 reps each, no rest
Ending Bodyweight: 216.0
Tomorrow I'm going to get strict on the Paleo diet and see if I can get my bodyfat back down and build a little more muscle. I'm sitting right around 9 or 10% bodyfat right now, which definitely isn't bad, but based on some of the junk I've been eating lately, I think I can get it down a lot lower...
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Sunday May 1
L4 - 184, 188, 184, 188, 184, 188, 180
Warmup=4min: 1034m
1:36ref pace
14.1 mps target
14.21 mps actual
233 meters over target, 6 strokes over target
Total Meters = 18,512
Cooldown=4 min: 1016m
Ending bodyweight: 214.0
L4 - 184, 188, 184, 188, 184, 188, 180
Warmup=4min: 1034m
1:36ref pace
14.1 mps target
14.21 mps actual
233 meters over target, 6 strokes over target
Total Meters = 18,512
Cooldown=4 min: 1016m
Ending bodyweight: 214.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Monday May 2
L1 - 1K minus 100 (45 second rest between each)
1K - 1:39.4, r31
900 - 1:38.6, r32
800 - 1:37.7, r33
700 - 1:36.8, r33
600 - 1:35.7, r34
500 - 1:34.7, r34
400 - 1:33.6, r34
300 - 1:32.5, r36
200 - 1:31.8, r34
100 - 1:28.0, r37
Overall average = 1:36.6
I did this same workout last week and averaged 1:36.8. I felt pretty tired today and was rushed to get it in, but overall, it felt pretty good.
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Superset
Single Leg Box Squat: 3x12, 10lbs
Single Leg RDL: 3x12, 25lbs
Single Arm Kettlebell Swing: 3x12
Wallball: 3x12, 20lbs
Back:
Superset
Powercleans: 3x5, 135
Pullups: 3x10
Bodyrow: 3x10
Bentover Side Lateral Raise: 3x10, 25lbs
Deadlifts: 225x10, 275x8, 295x6, 315x4
Ending Bodyweight: 214.5
L1 - 1K minus 100 (45 second rest between each)
1K - 1:39.4, r31
900 - 1:38.6, r32
800 - 1:37.7, r33
700 - 1:36.8, r33
600 - 1:35.7, r34
500 - 1:34.7, r34
400 - 1:33.6, r34
300 - 1:32.5, r36
200 - 1:31.8, r34
100 - 1:28.0, r37
Overall average = 1:36.6
I did this same workout last week and averaged 1:36.8. I felt pretty tired today and was rushed to get it in, but overall, it felt pretty good.
Following the erg, I went to the gym:
Legs:
Superset
Single Leg Box Squat: 3x12, 10lbs
Single Leg RDL: 3x12, 25lbs
Single Arm Kettlebell Swing: 3x12
Wallball: 3x12, 20lbs
Back:
Superset
Powercleans: 3x5, 135
Pullups: 3x10
Bodyrow: 3x10
Bentover Side Lateral Raise: 3x10, 25lbs
Deadlifts: 225x10, 275x8, 295x6, 315x4
Ending Bodyweight: 214.5
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Tuesday May 3
Easy 5K r22 - 1:54.5ave
20 Mins Core work
Off to work early today, so very limited workout. Nice to get in an easy 5K though....
Easy 5K r22 - 1:54.5ave
20 Mins Core work
Off to work early today, so very limited workout. Nice to get in an easy 5K though....
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Wednesday May 4
No erg today...
Warmed up at home with 25 mins of core work, then off to the gym
Chest:
Superset
DB press lying on ball (3x15), 80 lbs
DB fly lying on ball: 3x12, 50 lbs
Single arm cable press with core twist: 3x12, 60lbs
Cable fly: 3x12, 60lbs
Shoulders
Superset
DB press, sitting on ball 3x12, 40 lbs
DB side lateral raise 3x12, 25 lbs
DB upright row 3x12, 25 lbs
Triceps
Superset
Pushups hands on ball, feet on bench 3x20
Pushups feet on ball, hands on floor 3x10
DB extensions, lying on ball 3x12, 25lbs
Core work, 15 minutes
Ending bodyweight: 215.0
No erg today...
Warmed up at home with 25 mins of core work, then off to the gym
Chest:
Superset
DB press lying on ball (3x15), 80 lbs
DB fly lying on ball: 3x12, 50 lbs
Single arm cable press with core twist: 3x12, 60lbs
Cable fly: 3x12, 60lbs
Shoulders
Superset
DB press, sitting on ball 3x12, 40 lbs
DB side lateral raise 3x12, 25 lbs
DB upright row 3x12, 25 lbs
Triceps
Superset
Pushups hands on ball, feet on bench 3x20
Pushups feet on ball, hands on floor 3x10
DB extensions, lying on ball 3x12, 25lbs
Core work, 15 minutes
Ending bodyweight: 215.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
Re: A New Training Thread
Thursday May 5
L3 - 3K, 2.5K, 2K
2K warmup = 7:10
3K, r29, 1:44.5 HR=153
2.5K, r31, 1:44.2, HR=157
2K, r31, 1:43.0, HR=160
Overall, this workout felt horrible! I had absolutely no energy. My intention was to keep the rate down and see how the workout went. I went out the first 1000m of the 3K at a rate of 26 with a 1:41 average, then completely fell apart. Even though I haven't put in that many meters per week, it really feels like I've crept into the overtraining world somehow. Oddly, I've done very little on the erg since Monday so I thought I'd be feeling pretty good today. Unless I feel dramatically better next week, I may back off a bit and focus on L4s and L3s for a while until I feel better. I'm scheduled to do a 40minute L4 tomorrow, then off the erg on Saturday. We'll see how I feel on Sunday/Monday and that may determine what I do for the next few weeks...
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
L3 - 3K, 2.5K, 2K
2K warmup = 7:10
3K, r29, 1:44.5 HR=153
2.5K, r31, 1:44.2, HR=157
2K, r31, 1:43.0, HR=160
Overall, this workout felt horrible! I had absolutely no energy. My intention was to keep the rate down and see how the workout went. I went out the first 1000m of the 3K at a rate of 26 with a 1:41 average, then completely fell apart. Even though I haven't put in that many meters per week, it really feels like I've crept into the overtraining world somehow. Oddly, I've done very little on the erg since Monday so I thought I'd be feeling pretty good today. Unless I feel dramatically better next week, I may back off a bit and focus on L4s and L3s for a while until I feel better. I'm scheduled to do a 40minute L4 tomorrow, then off the erg on Saturday. We'll see how I feel on Sunday/Monday and that may determine what I do for the next few weeks...
Ending Bodyweight: 214.0
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)