Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Just listen to your body, have fun, work long and hard, relax, etc.

And row a 7:02

http://concept2.co.uk/birc/result_analy ... c_id=37858

Sure, there are failures along the way.

In the fall of 2002, I had a similar failure trying to break the 50s lwt WR.

Then I came back in 2003 and broke the record three times.

I had a similar failure at WIRC 2006, just after pulling sub-6:30 @ 12 SPI, without even preparing for it.

Then I came back at BIRC 2006 and won gold, breaking the BIRC championship record.

I have had similar failures in many races over the last two years.

Nonetheless, I have pulled a lwt 6:41 both of those years, without even preparing for it.

These lightweight 6:41s are faster than anyone my age and weight has ever rowed.

You are a product of your best moments, not your worst.

If you don't think so, you have never done anything significant.

All significant accomplishment is risky.

Failure is always possible.

Ironically, the only thing that repeated failure predicts is success.

The only thing that repeated success predicts is failure.

ranger

[ranger]

60s lwts gravitate toward 1:55 @ 26 spm (8.8 SPI) in their top-end UT1 distance rowing.

The problem, I think, is stroking power.

8.8 SPI for distance rowing implies a natural stroking power of less than 11 SPI.

To do 11 SPI for their distance rowing, as I do, other 60s lwts would have to raise their natural stroking power to 13 SPI.

To do this requires quite a bit of odd, specialized training on technique and stroking power.

This is what I did over the last few years with my RWBs ("Rowing with Breaks") training.

Unless other 60s lwt can train themselves to raise their natural stroking power, they don't have a hope in hell of improving their top-end UT1 rowing, and therefore, their 2K.

ranger

[ranger]

In terms of stroking power, I suspect the norm is to lighten up 1 SPI in a 2K trial but use your full natural stroking power in a 500m.

So in 2K training, this might be the function of a 500m trial.

A 500m trial is a race in which you use your full natural stroking power.

ranger

[Den-J]

Over the last decade, Rocket Roy, on the British forum, has been leading me in the posting race by quite a bit.

So Rocket Roy beats you again

[ranger]

13 SPI @ 46 spm is right around 1:24 for 500m.

10.8 SPI @ 46 spm is right around 1:29 for 500m, the 60s lwt 500m WR.

ranger

[ranger]

Over the last decade, Rocket Roy, on the British forum, has been leading me in the posting race by quite a bit.

So Rocket Roy beats you again

Rocket Roy has never come anywhere near my erg times, even when I was rowing badly at max drag.

Now that I am rowing well at low drag, at the same age, he won't come within 8 seconds per 500m of my best erg times.

ranger

[Citroen]

Rocket Roy has never come anywhere near my erg times, even when I was rowing badly at max drag.

Apart from a) beating you and b) holding the 55LWT WR.

Don't let the facts get in the way of the lies.

[ranger]

Rocket Roy has never come anywhere near my erg times, even when I was rowing badly at max drag.

Apart from a) beating you and b) holding the 55LWT WR.

Don't let the facts get in the way of the lies.

At a race venue, Roy's best row has been 6:38.

I have pulled 6:27.5, 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:33, 6:36, etc.

Despite being 60 years old, now that I row well at low drag, when I am fully trianed, I will pull 6:16.

If he still has any interest in the sport, Roy would now have a hard time pulling 6:50.

Given that, on the erg, he only likes to train to race, and race, train to race, and race, like everyone who trains this way, Roy just got worse and worse--precipitously.

He would have to do something entirely different with his training in order to get better.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Given that, on the erg, he only likes to train to race, and race, train to race, and race, like everyone who trains this way, Roy just got worse and worse--precipitously.

You never got near his lwt times once you were over 55.

Rocket Roy was setting records you couldn't beat and heck he doesn't even know how to row. You were the one getting worse -- precipitously. Who can forget the Euro champs where you were beaten into _fourth_ place.

Heck, you've slid all the way to a 7:02. Rcoket Roy has never rowed that slowly in competition.

[bellboy]

Given that, on the erg, he only likes to train to race, and race, train to race, and race, like everyone who trains this way, Roy just got worse and worse--precipitously.

You never got near his lwt times once you were over 55.

Rocket Roy was setting records you couldn't beat and heck he doesn't even know how to row. You were the one getting worse -- precipitously. Who can forget the Euro champs where you were beaten into _fourth_ place.

Heck, you've slid all the way to a 7:02. Rcoket Roy has never rowed that slowly in competition.

Let's not forget that Roy posts interesting, lucid and above all truthful infomation. It isnt the same crap ad nauseum that we get from you. We must also remember you stopped competing directly against him because he has got your number.

[ranger]

We must also remember you stopped competing directly against him because he has got your number.

I haven't stopped competing against anyone.

I suspect I will be competing OTErg for the next thirty years, just as I have competed continously on the erg for the last ten years.

It seems to me that, given his training, Roy hasn't gotten anybody's number but his own.

Sure.

If you are just getting worse and worse, what's the point?

Why not do something else you can get better at?

ranger

[ranger]

You were the one getting worse -- precipitously

No, I was getting better and better by working on my weaknesses, rather than parading my strengths.

Since 2003, I haven't been training to race, I have been training to get better.

I have been learning to row.

It has taken a while, but fait accompli.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

In 2003, I was as good as I could get rowing badly (10 SPI) at max drag (200+ df.).

ranger

[Citroen]

Rocket Roy has never come anywhere near my erg times, even when I was rowing badly at max drag.

Apart from a) beating you and b) holding the 55LWT WR.

Don't let the facts get in the way of the lies.

At a race venue, Roy's best row has been 6:38.

I have pulled 6:27.5, 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:33, 6:36, etc.

Despite being 60 years old, now that I row well at low drag, when I am fully trianed, I will pull 6:16.

If he still has any interest in the sport, Roy would now have a hard time pulling 6:50.

Given that, on the erg, he only likes to train to race, and race, train to race, and race, like everyone who trains this way, Roy just got worse and worse--precipitously.

He would have to do something entirely different with his training in order to get better.

ranger

As I said, don't let the facts get in the way of your lies. You were not LWT for all of those rows. You DIDN'T beat Roy for the 55-59 LWT world record. YOU FAILED, almost as badly as you FAILED at BIRC.

Roy has switched to cycling, he's MUCH better than you on a bike. I suspect if he switches back to rowing he'll be much better than you on the ergo. You're just a nasty, bitter, welching liar who can't take it that Roy and MikeVB are better than you (and better sportsmen to boot).

[atklein90]

If you are just getting worse and worse, what's the point?

Why not do something else you can get better at?

ranger

Funny that this would come from you. Isn't a 7:02 "worse" than a 6:41? That means you got worse this year compared to last. So, maybe you should take your own advice and "do something else you can get better at."

Maybe that would get rid of all the useless lies you continue to post online, day after day.

[ranger]

Funny that this would come from you. Isn't a 7:02 "worse" than a 6:41?

I didn't get my weight right and so was out of gas.

It didn't have anything to do with my rowing.

As a heavyweight, well fed and watered, I would have pulled 6:30.

6:30 is quite a bit better than 6:41, albeit well short of my 2K goal (6:16), given that I was still working on technique and not prepared specifically for racing a 2K.

With no energy to recruit/use the training I had done, I just paddled it in.

There was nothing to be done about it.

I am not sure why you are dwelling on failures, when there are significant successes, too.

You are not a product of your failures.

You are a product of your successes.

If you can only row 7:02, or whatever, you don't row sub-6:30 the week before, as I did before WIRC 2006.

Something else is happening to cause the 7:02 that doesn't have anything to do with your fitness or rowing.

Training explains successes, not failures.

Failures are irrelevant to training.

Failures can only be motivated by something else entirely.

You can never race better than you have trained yourself to race.

But sure, you can have a lousy race for all sorts of other (irrelevant) reasons.

ranger