Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

When is the weather going to turn around? I'd love to get back OTW. It's still _freezing_ here in Ann Arbor.

There are things called jackets, gloves or pogies, hats, etc. that allow one to be outdoors without getting cold. Usually the problem is being too warm because the body generates heat once you start rowing OTW. For example, this morning I paused and took my jacket off after a few K. Gloves or pogies were not necessary.

It depends what you are doing out there, Byron.

I go along quite a bit faster than you.

You go along so slowly it's ridiculous.

Sure, then the weather is no problem.

Nor is steering, fatigue, balance, obstacles, other boats, water temperature, and everything else that is a problem about rowing hard in cold weather.

ranger

[ranger]

You'd understand why if you were a heavy lightweight.

You aren't. You are a light hwt. You natural state is hwt. Since passing 55 you have performed very badly when attempting to make weight as a glory lwt.

Not sure where this is coming from.

I have to be 10% body fat to make weight.

I have 148 lbs. of non-fat body mass.

I haven't prepared to race since 2003.

Nonetheless, I have been rowing faster than any lightweight my age has ever rowed.

I have had the best lighweight time for my age and weight the last two years.

Last year, no lightweight my age (or older) came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

I have also been experimenting with technique.

That experimentation is now complete.

So it goes.

Now, rowing well at low drag, fully prepared, I think I'll pull 6:16 for 2K, as both a heavyweight and as a lightweight.

ranger

[Fred]

In fact, I should make weight in no time.
My weight is pretty good right now.

I don't like to weigh myself.
It's depressing!

Guess no one could have captured the dilemma your emotional issues place you in better than you did with these two posts.
The first post is the delusion of what you want so badly to be true, the second post is your mind protecting you from the reality by recoiling from any form of measurement.

[snowleopard]

Not sure where this is coming from.

http://concept2.co.uk/birc/result_analy ... c_id=37858

[atklein90]

In fact, I should make weight in no time.
My weight is pretty good right now.

I don't like to weigh myself.
It's depressing!

Guess no one could have captured the dilemma your emotional issues place you in better than you did with these two posts.
The first post is the delusion of what you want so badly to be true, the second post is your mind protecting you from the reality by recoiling from any form of measurement.

Not to mention the fact that how can you claim your weight is "pretty good right now" if you don't weigh yourself!

[Byron Drachman]

It depends what you are doing out there, Byron. I go along quite a bit faster than you. You go along so slowly it's ridiculous. Sure, then the weather is no problem. Nor is steering, fatigue, balance, obstacles, other boats, water temperature, and everything else that is a problem about rowing hard in cold weather.

So after all these years OTW you still can't deal with cold weather? And you're going to win the HOCR this year?

[mikvan52]

Not sure where this is coming from.

http://concept2.co.uk/birc/result_analy ... c_id=37858

My favorite part of this handle downer:

... an opening 500m of 1:40.5 @ 30 SPM
SPI = 11.49 RPS*
*rangers per second is the accepted int'l unit designation for "rowing well"

it equals one joule min per stroke second... RPS is what the Elskid likes to call it in his training

[ranger]

In fact, I should make weight in no time.
My weight is pretty good right now.

I don't like to weigh myself.
It's depressing!

Guess no one could have captured the dilemma your emotional issues place you in better than you did with these two posts.
The first post is the delusion of what you want so badly to be true, the second post is your mind protecting you from the reality by recoiling from any form of measurement.

I am not sure why you want to measure _anything_ when you are training.

Just take care of yourself, work hard, keep trying to overcome your weaknesses, get some good rest, eat well, etc.

All the cognitive overlay is counterproductive, if not destructive.

For many, it's disastrous.

Sure, sports are emotional.

The result of this is documented here every day.

Almost everyone I knew who was rowing ten years ago is not rowing now.

They got seriously injured, sick, stale, and/or discouraged--and quit.

Not a pretty picture.

Not a happy story.

ranger

[ranger]

It depends what you are doing out there, Byron. I go along quite a bit faster than you. You go along so slowly it's ridiculous. Sure, then the weather is no problem. Nor is steering, fatigue, balance, obstacles, other boats, water temperature, and everything else that is a problem about rowing hard in cold weather.

So after all these years OTW you still can't deal with cold weather? And you're going to win the HOCR this year?

My point is that you have nothing to deal with, so what does it matter whether you row in cold weather or not?

ranger

[ranger]

In fact, I should make weight in no time.
My weight is pretty good right now.

I don't like to weigh myself.
It's depressing!

Guess no one could have captured the dilemma your emotional issues place you in better than you did with these two posts.
The first post is the delusion of what you want so badly to be true, the second post is your mind protecting you from the reality by recoiling from any form of measurement.

Not to mention the fact that how can you claim your weight is "pretty good right now" if you don't weigh yourself!

All sorts of things.

Look at yourself.

Grab the fat on your belly.

Etc.

One good indication for me is how many pull ups I can do.

I can now do an easy 20, so I am getting light.

When I make weight, I can do 30.

ranger

[Gus]

I am not sure why you want to measure _anything_ when you are training.

All the cognitive overlay is counterproductive, if not destructive.

ranger

Then why do you measure your force curve?

And, how do you figure your SPI, 1:48 pace, HR of 155 is 75% HRR, ratio, weight, % of body fat if you are not cognitive overlaying?

Was the peak of your destruction the 2010 BIRC race or do you think it happened much earlier?

[Byron Drachman]

It depends what you are doing out there, Byron. I go along quite a bit faster than you. You go along so slowly it's ridiculous. Sure, then the weather is no problem. Nor is steering, fatigue, balance, obstacles, other boats, water temperature, and everything else that is a problem about rowing hard in cold weather.

So after all these years OTW you still can't deal with cold weather? And you're going to win the HOCR this year?

My point is that you have nothing to deal with, so what does it matter whether you row in cold weather or not?

ranger

And my point is about your rowing, not mine.

[aharmer]

When is the weather going to turn around? I'd love to get back OTW. It's still _freezing_ here in Ann Arbor.

There are things called jackets, gloves or pogies, hats, etc. that allow one to be outdoors without getting cold. Usually the problem is being too warm because the body generates heat once you start rowing OTW. For example, this morning I paused and took my jacket off after a few K. Gloves or pogies were not necessary.

It depends what you are doing out there, Byron.

I go along quite a bit faster than you.

You go along so slowly it's ridiculous.

Sure, then the weather is no problem.

Nor is steering, fatigue, balance, obstacles, other boats, water temperature, and everything else that is a problem about rowing hard in cold weather.

ranger

I wonder how far Byron would have rowed during the time you were being fished out of the river and towed to shore after crashing into the 8. I can guarantee Byron is faster than your wet ass sitting in the water. I think a more appropriate name for your boat might be "Torpedo".

As usual, you will need to show your 20 pullups for anybody to believe you. How about a video?

[Byron Drachman]

June 11, 2008: I now do fine on the water.
2:00 @ 26 spm
No swimming at all.
Lots of work still to do on lots of things.
But I am happy with my progress.
The 60s OTW 1Ks at the Nationals are usually won at about 2:00 pace.
I will race a new elite 1x (not my tub of a Peinert) in the Nationals when I am 60.

Have you made your reservations yet? You should be able to do a one day drive from your summer house.

[bellboy]

June 11, 2008: I now do fine on the water.
2:00 @ 26 spm
No swimming at all.
Lots of work still to do on lots of things.
But I am happy with my progress.
The 60s OTW 1Ks at the Nationals are usually won at about 2:00 pace.
I will race a new elite 1x (not my tub of a Peinert) in the Nationals when I am 60.

Have you made your reservations yet? You should be able to do a one day drive from your summer house.

Yet another stilleto blade in the ribs for our erstwhile hero.