Ranger's training thread

[atklein90]

no, I'm not the least bit interested in your erg times

Just what I thought.

O.K.

I won't post them, if no one is interested.

ranger

Ha! You won't post cause you ain't got them!

Loser. How can your life be so miserable that you spend the day on the Internet posting lies all day long?

It's sad that a public university has wasted money employing you for so long to teach the youth of America. What kind of a role model you?

A real role model would post RESULTS, evidence to their ridiculous claims.

You are a sad little man.

[PaulH]

Curious sort of deafening silence around here about these comments.

Interesting.

ranger

Not really - you're identifying 'flaws' in their rowing that it's not physically possible to determine from that video. You're also describing a target stroke that is physically impossible to execute. Given, then, that you appear to be hallucinating, there's not really any point in commenting on whatever it is you're seeing.

[Fred]

Curious sort of deafening silence around here about these comments.
Interesting.
ranger

Not really

Rich,
If you want folks to really take your suggestions seriously, you'll need to provide some quantifiable data to back up your claims that your technique/training has actually produced results.

None of the following qualify as quantifiable data:
- Your belief in the attractiveness of your force curve
- Your "sense" that you are "much better now" than you were in 2003
- Your repeated assurances that a 2:32 FM (1:48 average) is coming "real soon now"
- Your repeated assurances that you "row well" or "row perfectly"
- Your claims to be rowing at a certain SPI, for an undefined time.
- Your claims of "steady state rowing" at HR XX and pace 1.xx when that pace is held for undefined times.

What would qualify as quantifiable data backing up your claim:
- a timed piece (time and distance covered)


The fact that you continue to be repulsed by the latter, is a pretty big (negative) credibility hit for you.
Your actual results the past 5-6 years say that you are a very good age group erger who can row very close to the current world record for that class. Thats it.

[snowleopard]

Curious sort of deafening silence around here about these comments.
Interesting.

Just another fart from your flatulent brain.

[ausrwr]

You're s a lying, welshing, dumb, mentally unstable, lunatic

Wow.

And I am a great rower, to boot!

Hey.

You're a nice guy, too, even if you are no good at rowing.

Our fond feeling for one another is mutual!

ranger

Rich, you are not even a good rower. In your one and only race, you fell in and failed to finish. Since when, you haven't raced. Bit of a waste of 7k in Fluidesign, that.

You used to be a fast erger. Not a good one. Much as you bleat about being "much better now", the evidence of the videos you have put up shows no difference over the years.

No matter how much you talk about leveraging, Sprackbacks, low drag, high drag, and the DLS, it's still the same. A lunge into the catch, miss the catch with the legs and start with the back too early, and haul anchor to the finish, which is overdrawn. Then, the legs come up before the hands are even over the knees and you lunge again.

The only difference is your speed. You have got slower, and no amount of "evidence" will show otherwise until you post proof. We are interested, but only as far as you can demonstrate some sort of proof.

[ranger]

Man, now that my stroke is together again, I feel 2002-2003 all over again.

Back on the rower for another 10K.

ranger

[ranger]

A lunge into the catch, miss the catch with the legs and start with the back too early, and haul anchor to the finish, which is overdrawn. Then, the legs come up before the hands are even over the knees and you lunge again.

No resemblance to that now that I am rowing at 95 df.

As a lightweight, only 5'11", with short little arms and legs, I _can't_ haul anchor at 95 df. and get 120 kg.F of peak force, 135 kg.F is I push harder off my heels with my gluts, in the first .2 seconds of a drive that is only .5 seconds long.

It's not possible.

There would be no resistance to haul against and not enough drive time to get it done.

I _have to_ do it with my legs.

When I was doing a sprackback at max drag, Nav measured my drive at over .8 seconds, almost twice as much drive time as what I am getting now.

I'll post a video of the 1:48 @ 22 spm (12.5 SPI), or perhaps even some 1:46 @ 22 spm (13.2 SPI), that I have been doing.

The power in the stroke comes before any of my upper body muscles are engaged at all.

Quads, gluts & hams, calves.

Toes, heels, toes.

Then back.

Then arms.

The drive time is only .5 seconds.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Man, now that my stroke is together again, I feel 2002-2003 all over again.

Back on the rower for another 10K.

So you now row like you did then. When you didn't know how to row.

[ranger]

Man, now that my stroke is together again, I feel 2002-2003 all over again.

Back on the rower for another 10K.

So you now row like you did then. When you didn't know how to row.

No, I mean in again being able to prepare to race, and race, because I have a stroke to use.

No, my stroke now has no resembance to my stroke then.

ranger

[ranger]

My foot and legwork is _really_ getting good.

I am now getting a great feel for how to use my feet and legs to modulate power with this stroke.

It's gorgeous.

95 df.



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[ranger]

This FM rowing at 22-24 spm and 95 df. is great to do in 10K sessions.

Now that class is done, given that I start early in the morning and am just hanging around the house the rest of the day, I think I can do _four_ 10K sessions a day, at least until I can get back OTW with my boat.

I did three sessions today, and it was no problem at all.

The more the merrier!

At 95 df., this rowing at relatively low rates and HRs doesn't tire me out at all.

It's much easier skeletal-muscularly than rowing at max drag.

Today, I recovered completely between sessions.

They all felt the same.

No tiredness carried over from session to session.

When is the weather going to turn around?

I'd love to get back OTW.

It's still _freezing_ here in Ann Arbor.

It was snowing this morning.

Worst spring weather I have ever seen.

ranger

[ranger]

BTW, I am really getting good length with my legs.

I am now using all but six inches of slide at the catch.

I don't know, but that might be as much as a foot more than I used to use when I rowed at max drag.

ranger

[bellboy]

This FM rowing at 22-24 spm and 95 df. is great to do in 10K sessions.

Now that class is done, given that I start early in the morning and am just hanging around the house the rest of the day, I think I can do _four_ 10K sessions a day, at least until I can get back OTW with my boat.

I did three sessions today, and it was no problem at all.

The more the merrier!

At 95 df., this rowing at relatively low rates and HRs doesn't tire me out at all.

It's much easier skeletal-muscularly than rowing at max drag.

Today, I recovered completely between sessions.

They all felt the same.

No tiredness carried over from session to session.

When is the weather going to turn around?

I'd love to get back OTW.

It's still _freezing_ here in Ann Arbor.

It was snowing this morning.

Worst spring weather I have ever seen.

ranger

Of course you want to get back OTW. Then you can forget about doing that 1.48 (stop sniggering at the back) FM you have been promising for the last six weeks.

[ranger]

Of course you want to get back OTW. Then you can forget about doing that 1.48 (stop sniggering at the back) FM you have been promising for the last six weeks.

No, it's pretty much all the same now.

When I can get back out on the river in my 1x, I will also row at 22-24 spm.

From day to day, it would be a nice change of scenery (and a nice mix of challenges) to do 20K OTErg followed by 20K OTW, or some such thing, rather than 40K OTErg.

ranger

[ranger]

Yea.

This schedule of 4 x 10K a day looks great.

10K is a solid distance for working on technique and relaxation, not too long, not too short.

And the four reps a day will add up to what is close to a FM of meters.

I can also do these 10Ks very easily by the clock, without messing around with programming the erg manually.

I can just punch 10K from the standard workout menu and I'm off.

When I get a nice one where my HR is right at 155 bpm, the HR that I want to hold, steady state, for a FM trial, I'll post it.

24 spm seems ideal for these FM pace 10Ks.

A good one at 155 bpm (75% HRR), steady state, should be 1:47.

These 10Ks are _very_ easy.

They don't tire me out at all, as I move from one to the next.

It is just a bit faster than UT2 rowing.

My HR, steady state, during these 10Ks is right about what I like to run when I cross-train: ride my bike, step, run, etc.

ranger