Ranger's training thread

[mikvan52]

bouts of 10K...

Note: ranger uses "bouts" as a contraction. In his typing he missed the apostrophe: 'bouts...
as in about 10k or about 1:48. In other words, he doesn't do it and has no commitment to even try to.

What happened to your bouts of 2k (times ten) for 20k in February Rich? And now you're going to skip ahead to bouts of 10k? Dream on. Post on!

ranger clicking on "FAILURE"

quoth the bard:
I do pieces in April
but it's a morning in May

[ranger]

And now you're going to skip ahead to bouts of 10k?

Yep.

At the moment, I seem to prefer 10K as a distance.

Doesn't matter how far you row if it is comfortable mechanically/technically and you are rowing steady state with a middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm).

This is everyday UT1 rowing at 23-25 spm, what I like to do best.

It's just that I now go quite a bit faster than I used to (10 seconds per 500m?) because I pull 12 SPI rather than 9 SPI.

Low drag (95 df.) and fast legs.

ranger

[snowleopard]

And now you're going to skip ahead to bouts of 10k?

Yep.

At the moment, I seem to prefer 10K as a distance.

Doesn't matter how far you row if it is comfortable mechanically/technically and you are rowing steady state with a middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm).

This is everyday UT1 rowing at 23-25 spm, what I like to do best.

It's just that I now go quite a bit faster than I used to (10 seconds per 500m?) because I pull 12 SPI rather than 9 SPI.

Low drag (95 df.) and fast legs.

Total bullshit: a) you cannot row a continuous 10K @ 1:48 at any DF/rate cobination you care to mention; and b) you couldn't row a 2K @ 1:48 24 spm with a UT1 HR (whatever it might be) never mind 10K.

Why do you feel the need to lie in every post. We know you're lying. You know you're lying. You know we know you're lying. So what's the point?

[Fred]

Doesn't matter how far you row if it is comfortable mechanically/technically and you are rowing steady state with a middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm).

what is your definition of "rowing steady state"?

[Citroen]

Doesn't matter how far you row if it is comfortable mechanically/technically and you are rowing steady state with a middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm).

what is your definition of "rowing steady state"?

Read back. Ranger's steady state doesn't hold up to scrutiny. He claims a steady rate/pace/HR but when challenged about fluid loss (through sweating) as that WILL cause a HR increase he does a U-turn and claims steady rate/pace with increasing HR. Or he'll deny steady rate/HR means reduced pace.

The data he provides ALWAYS misses one of the critical items needed to fathom out what he's really doing on his rowing machine, in his boat or on his bike.

Everyone else gives distance, duration and stroke rate and if they're recording it will include HR (possibly as a graph showing the drift).

Ranger will give us distance and his forever meaningless SPI. He has never given any valid HR data. He doesn't know his HR bands for UT2, UT1, AT, TR or AN. He doesn't know his maxHR on the ergo nor on his "rusty" bike.

I think many of us follow this thread hoping for a verifiable result to be posted. It's never going to happen unless he happens to roll up at a race and get from 2000m down to zero. We have that one 7:02 from the 2010/2011 season. Everything else he's reported is a figment of his pathological paranoid narcisstic personality disorder (which appears to be getting worse).

[bellboy]

So.

Here is your chance to be helpful and positive, Henry.

What do you think I should do in order to pull a lwt 6:16?

Any ideas?

ranger

Rich, the only way you're going to pull a 6:16 LWT is to follow EE into a bar and dose his drink with Rohypnol.

Post of the year without question!

[aharmer]

So.


Post of the year without question!

Agreed. Had my drinking water coming out the nose when I read it.

Outside this cesspool of lies, one of our fellow naysayers actually did something amazing this week. Predicted that he would perform a 2k time trial this morning. Did the time trial. Posted results. Visit the real training thread for some of the workouts and performance data ranger dreams about doing.

[kini62]

kini62--

Why don't you have a signature line?

What is your age and weight?

What is your 2K?

ranger

I'm 48, 5'6" and 155lbs. I can barely crack 7:20. Thus I admit to having a tiny engine. I'll use having bicep tendonitis in both shoulders as an excuse though.

BUT, my goal is 6:15! IF I pull a 6:15 I will be faster than I am now. IF I pull a 6:15 in the next week or so I will be erging well!

IF I start shitting gold bricks I won't have to go to work anymore! Unprecedented!

[Bob S.]

Why do you feel the need to lie in every post. We know you're lying. You know you're lying. You know we know you're lying. So what's the point?

Well, it got a reply from you didn't it? What other point is there to this thread?

It seems to me that many of the responders to this thread who tell R.C. to get real need to face a little reality themselves. By now, they should know full well that their posts will have no positive effect.

Bob S.

[ranger]

you cannot row a continuous 10K @ 1:48

I am just going along, steady state, with a HR of 155 bpm, middlin' UT1.

Middlin' UT1 is 2K + 14.

ranger

[ranger]

I'm 48, 5'6" and 155lbs. I can barely crack 7:20. Thus I admit to having a tiny engine. I'll use having bicep tendonitis in both shoulders as an excuse though.

Ah.

Good luck with it.

Sorry to hear about the ailments, etc.

Hope you feel better soon.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Why do you feel the need to lie in every post. We know you're lying. You know you're lying. You know we know you're lying. So what's the point?

Well, it got a reply from you didn't it? What other point is there to this thread?

It seems to me that many of the responders to this thread who tell R.C. to get real need to face a little reality themselves. By now, they should know full well that their posts will have no positive effect.

Bob S.

Crikey Bob! Do you think I (or anyone else) am expecting a sensible answer?

Beware of occupying the moral high ground, nothing here is quite what it seems

[ranger]

one of our fellow naysayers actually did something amazing this week. Predicted that he would perform a 2k time trial this morning. Did the time trial. Posted results. Visit the real training thread for some of the workouts and performance data ranger dreams about doing.

If you are rowing 10 seconds per 500m slower than the best for your age and weight, there might be many better things to do for your rowing than a 2K trial.

Racing never made anyone any better.

ranger

[atklein90]

Post of the year without question!

Agreed. Had my drinking water coming out the nose when I read it.

Outside this cesspool of lies, one of our fellow naysayers actually did something amazing this week. Predicted that he would perform a 2k time trial this morning. Did the time trial. Posted results. Visit the real training thread for some of the workouts and performance data ranger dreams about doing.

Thanks for the props! Personally, I think its much more meaningful to set goals, including TIMELINES, then test those goals.

I'd much rather do that than endlessly post garbage all day long.

[ranger]

t seems to me that many of the responders to this thread who tell R.C. to get real need to face a little reality themselves. By now, they should know full well that their posts will have no positive effect.

Nay-saying doesn't have a positive effect on anything.

How could it?

You can indeed get better!

No reason to nay-say someone else's improvement just because you are getting worse and are too bone-headed to figure out why.

Wake up, folks!

The evidence is overwhelming:

Especially if you are older, after a _very_ short while in this sport, you _can't_ get better by working on your fitness.

To get better, you need to improve your technique.

ranger