Ranger's training thread

[hjs]

Where's the latest video so we can form our own opinions about your current version or variation of anchor hauling? How about doing a 5K and posting the screen shot?

Happy to do both of these, although they are both unnecessary, if you know anything about rowing.

A little lightweight like me _cannot_ anchor-haul 12 SPI at 95 df.

That's just impossible.

And a 5K at 25 spm, just stroking naturally, is a piece of cake for anyone.

25 spm is more like a FM rate.

ranger

Why do you always lie? in 7 years you have never showed any row, not one. only short snippits, that is al you dare to show.

[Byron Drachman]

Brrrrrrrrrrrrr. Stupid stuff.

Spoken by a wimp who will never be ready for head racing.

[ranger]

Why do you always lie? in 7 years you have never showed any row, not one. only short snippits, that is al you dare to show.

Yep.

You have no interest at all in my quest for a 6:16 2K.

You are just hanging around here to sneer and be snide--at anything and everything.

This is the lowest sort of social behavior imaginable.

You should be ashamed.

ranger

[ranger]

Brrrrrrrrrrrrr. Stupid stuff.

Spoken by a wimp who will never be ready for head racing.

And you are?



ranger

[ranger]

ndeed, and in a much more complex movement as rowing the gains after the first initial improvement are not big anymore.

Sure, if you are just talking about fitness, as you always are.

But that is a blind, deaf, and dumb approach to rowing, that doesn't know its ass from its elbow.

Even if your fitness is maximal, if you row badly at max drag, you can make _huge_ gains by learning to row well at low drag.

The gain is in the area of 10 seconds per 500m.

This gain is so massive that it dwarfs any improvement of any sort that can be made by working on fitness, especially after your fitness is maximal.

ranger

[aharmer]

I find it interesting that somebody is planning to embark on the most historic session in the history of erging, yet doesn't really have any idea when it will take place. Anybody that was serious about this timeline (I believe most recently it was stated that the FM would be complete by this weekend) would have a specific day and time set aside for this adventure.

Erging, and lying about your performance on the erg is your entire life. Don't deny this, you spend several hours every day posting and editing thousands of messages about it. And with your crowning moment approaching, you haven't considered a specific day in which you might erg this piece? Give me a break. You were caught in a bold-faced lie again this morning, how long will this charade continue?

We know you'll never show a real piece from your PM4 memory. Would you be willing to show us a pic of the total meters on your machine? This would at least prove to us that you do indeed sit on the machine every day. There truly is no proof that you even do that. Anybody on the planet can create a few equations in Excel and spout numbers on a message board for 12 hours a day. Just show the lifetime meters, it has to be an impressive number by now.

[hjs]

Every evidence speaks agains this, so unless you show anything from either yourself or anybody else in the it is just an illusion.
nobody, absolute nobody does improve much more after the first learning wave, this goes for any endurence sport, our body is a smart machine, it will use an efficient technique in a short while. Everything you have shown is proof or this.
You pb ed in your first race ever
After that you soon started to slow down and every race you did, you used the same base technique, including this year

ndeed, and in a much more complex movement as rowing the gains after the first initial improvement are not big anymore.

Sure, if you are just talking about fitness, as you always are.

But that is a blind, deaf, and dumb approach to rowing, that doesn't know its ass from its elbow.

Even if your fitness is maximal, if you row badly at max drag, you can make _huge_ gains by learning to row well at low drag.

The gain is in the area of 10 seconds per 500m.

This gain is so massive that it dwarfs any improvement of any sort that can be made by working on fitness, especially after your fitness is maximal.

ranger

[ranger]

I find it interesting that somebody is planning to embark on the most historic session in the history of erging, yet doesn't really have any idea when it will take place. Anybody that was serious about this timeline (I believe most recently it was stated that the FM would be complete by this weekend) would have a specific day and time set aside for this adventure.

Who says?

You?

You can't just will the body to do things, whatever you would like done.

If you could, you would be much better at rowing than you are.



The body has its own concerns.

They aren't yours.

If you want to do well in individual sports, you have to listen to your body, rather than trying to make it listen to you.

ranger

[ranger]

unless you show anything from either yourself or anybody else in the it is just an illusion

Sure, it's an illusion if you blind, deaf, and dumb about sport like you.

And sure, unless I do the kind of things I have been expecting to do, it is an illusion for me in this case.

Then again, if I do those things that I expect to do, all of your talk and behavior here has been just a bunch of stupid nonsense by an idiot who wouldn't know how to be good at a sport if it bit him on the nose.

ranger

[snowleopard]

If you want to do well in individual sports, you have to listen to your body, rather than trying to make it listen to you.

If that were true the Olympics, World Champs etc etc would never take place. But in the real world athletes organize and manage their training so that they peak for key events. With your approach to training it's no surprise that the finer details have passed you by.

But, then, you don't train, you just exercise to combat the excesses of drinking and eating in an attempt to stop family history repeating itself.

[Fred]

unless I do the kind of things I have been expecting to do, it is an illusion for me in this case.

Rich, every month, for the past 5-6 years, you have been confidently predicting that your goals (6:16 2k/FM 1:48) would be reached "in the next month".

And, every time it is pointed out to you, after that month has passed, that you failed to achieve what you so confidently predicted you would do, your response is "yes, that has been the case, but THIS NEXT month it's going to be reality".

now, when that history is coupled with the fact that you (I'll put it nicely) "greatly exaggerate" your training on a daily basis, and further coupled with the fact that you make these performance predictions based on non-time/distance based data such as single stroke force curves, I'm sure you see two things:

1. your credibility (with respect to your 6:16 goal, NOT with respect to being a very good age group erger who has pulled 6:41 twice in the past 3 years) is somewhere below non-existent.

2. 6:16 2k/1:48FM is in fact an illusion

Dream goals are fine, as long as you realize and accept where you actually are with respect to those dreams. It's very dangerous when your mind starts constructing and embracing an illusion that you have already achieved those dreams.

[PaulH]

You are just hanging around here to sneer and be snide--at anything and everything.

This is the lowest sort of social behavior imaginable.

Wow, that's a pretty limited imagination you have there.

[jliddil]

The perfect way to prove rangers training:
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

[ranger]

Rich, every month, for the past 5-6 years, you have been confidently predicting that your goals (6:16 2k/FM 1:48) would be reached "in the next month".

Actually, I have already reached my training goal: rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

Am I predicting a 6:16 2K in the next month?

Not at all.

I have just claimed that 6:16 for 2K is the limit of my potential.

At the moment, I am training for a FM.

This is what I need to do before I am ready to try to pull 6:16 for 2K:

I need to complete distance trials at all distances, from the top down--FM, HM, 60min, 10K, 30mon, 6K, 5K.

Then I need to do a couple of months of sharpening with anaerobic intervals.

Then I need to race for a couple of months.

When I get to this point with my training, I will be racing, fully trained, rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (95 df.).

Hey.

Training is going great.

I am delighted with it.

As far as I can tell, I am right on target.

Couldn't be better.

ranger

[ranger]

If you want to do well in individual sports, you have to listen to your body, rather than trying to make it listen to you.

If that were true the Olympics, World Champs etc etc would never take place. But in the real world athletes organize and manage their training so that they peak for key events.

I am not training for the Olympics.

I am not on a team.

I have never had a coach, other than myself.

For me, there are no "key" events.

There is just me and the machine.

I am just an old man trying to train myself to row to the limits of my potential on the erg.

Sure, that is a "real world" affair, but it doesn't have anything to do with anything you are talking about.

A better analogy for my quest, perhaps, would be to a 10-year-old, just starting out in the sport, whose dream is to pull 6:40 OTW and win the Olympics in his/her 1x.

I am still learning to row.

I am getting pretty good on the erg, I think.

I am still pretty lousy OTW.

Sure, maybe I'll be good enough to be on a team some day.

Sure, if I get good enough and run out of things I can do for myself, maybe I'll get some coaching.

ranger