General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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ranger
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 3:28 am
macroth wrote:Why do you keep talking about distance training, and threshold HRs, and getting used to the pain, when you're only rowing a few hundred meters at a time before taking a break?
I am rowing continuously now, steady state, middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm), as you will see when I do a FM, 1:48 @ 25 spm.
A FM is 42K, not a few hundred yards.
3500 strokes, not 35.
Stroke feels great.
95 df.
4-to-1 ratio
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 3:31 am
Yea.
Like Matthias, everyone should do a FM @ 25-27 spm as a foundation for their 2K training.
Hey macroth.
What do you do for a FM @ 25-27 spm?
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 3:33 am
Hey, macroth.
You might want to change your signature line.
36:30 is a great time for 60min, but...
Ya know?
You'd need a 100 hp Merc on the back of your erg to do that one.
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by Citroen » April 18th, 2011, 3:34 am
ranger wrote:
A FM is 42K, not a few hundred yards.
3500 strokes, not 35.
No it isn't - you're not pulling 12m/stroke.
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 3:40 am
Citroen wrote:ranger wrote:
A FM is 42K, not a few hundred yards.
3500 strokes, not 35.
No it isn't - you're not pulling 12m/stroke.
True.
I was just rounding down.
I am doing 11 MPS.
3800 or so strokes for a FM.
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by Citroen » April 18th, 2011, 3:46 am
ranger wrote:
I am doing 11 MPS.
Prove it. Lets see the a photo of the result/splits for a 5K so we can check you're not lying.
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by macroth » April 18th, 2011, 3:46 am
ranger wrote:macroth wrote:Why do you keep talking about distance training, and threshold HRs, and getting used to the pain, when you're only rowing a few hundred meters at a time before taking a break?
I am rowing continuously now, steady state, middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm)
ranger wrote:Gorgeous base pace now, 1:44 @ 27 spm (11.5 SPI).
So you've rowed at least 2K continuously, 6:56, at a steady 155 bpm? How about a screenshot?
Even though you're not a lightweight at the moment, that would be a nice improvement in performance compared to BIRC. Still light-years away from a FM at the same pace but it's all moot, since you're lying.
ranger wrote:Hey, macroth.
You might want to change your signature line.
36:30 is a great time for 60min, but...
Tell you what. I'll match that 36:30 to something more realistic when you show us a sub-7 2K at 155 bpm.
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All time PBs: 100m 14.0 | 500m 1:18.1 | 1k 2:55.7 | 2k 6:15.4 | 5k 16:59.3 | 6k 20:46.5 | 10k 35:46.0
40+ PBs: 100m 14.7 | 500m 1:20.5 | 1k 2:59.6 | 2k 6:21.9 | 5k 17:29.6 | HM 1:19:33.1| FM 2:51:58.5 | 100k 7:35:09 | 24h 250,706m
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by atklein90 » April 18th, 2011, 8:35 am
ranger wrote:
I am rowing continuously now, steady state, middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm), as you will see when I do a FM, 1:48 @ 25 spm.
ranger
So how far does 'continuously' mean?
You've got 12 days to get your ranking FM in. Why do I have this odd feeling nothing will happen?
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)
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by rjw » April 18th, 2011, 8:44 am
ranger wrote:
I am rowing continuously now, steady state, middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm), as you will see when I do a FM, 1:48 @ 25 spm.
A FM is 42K, not a few hundred yards.
3500 strokes, not 35.
Stroke feels great.
95 df.
4-to-1 ratio
ranger
When it sounds to good to be true.....
it generally is.
Oh and by the way, glad that your injury cleared up so quickly cause that 1:48 @ 25 mush put a lot of pressure on you.
test sig
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 9:17 am
Citroen wrote:ranger wrote:
I am doing 11 MPS.
Prove it. Lets see the a photo of the result/splits for a 5K so we can check you're not lying.
When I do the FM, sure, you'll have the splits and the IND_V result.
It will be the new 60s hwt FM WR--by a country mile.
Beyond that, nothing else is necessary.
Sorry, but "proving" things to you isn't part of my training.
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 9:22 am
rjw wrote: glad that your injury cleared up so quickly
It hasn't "cleared up."
But it is not bad enough so that I couldn't row.
And I now know what is causing it, so it is not getting worse.
I expect that it will slowly get better.
Still hurts now, though.
I won't do any rowing at 30+ spm until it feels better.
I'll just limit my rating to 27 spm, base pace.
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 9:35 am
atklein90 wrote:You've got 12 days to get your ranking FM in. Why do I have this odd feeling nothing will happen?
Beats me.
Who cares?
What you think doesn't have anything to do with anything.
People think and do all kinds of strange things.
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by macroth » April 18th, 2011, 10:09 am
ranger wrote:macroth wrote:Why do you keep talking about distance training, and threshold HRs, and getting used to the pain, when you're only rowing a few hundred meters at a time before taking a break?
I am rowing continuously now, steady state, middlin' UT1 HR (155 bpm)
ranger wrote:Gorgeous base pace now, 1:44 @ 27 spm (11.5 SPI).
So you've rowed at least 2K continuously, 6:56, at a steady 155 bpm? How about a screenshot?
43/m/183cm/HW
All time PBs: 100m 14.0 | 500m 1:18.1 | 1k 2:55.7 | 2k 6:15.4 | 5k 16:59.3 | 6k 20:46.5 | 10k 35:46.0
40+ PBs: 100m 14.7 | 500m 1:20.5 | 1k 2:59.6 | 2k 6:21.9 | 5k 17:29.6 | HM 1:19:33.1| FM 2:51:58.5 | 100k 7:35:09 | 24h 250,706m
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by mikvan52 » April 18th, 2011, 11:36 am
KevJGK wrote:ranger wrote:
I have indeed hurt something on my left side.
What terrible luck.
I wonder who was standing on his
right side?
Was that creature hurt also?
3 Crash-B hammers
American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
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by ranger » April 18th, 2011, 11:40 am
Strange.
Last day of class tomorrow.
Snow fell steadily here in Ann Arbor all morning, a couple of inches of accumulation.
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