General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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JimR
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by JimR » March 24th, 2011, 9:30 am
ranger wrote:mikvan52 wrote: I can erg under 18:00 for 5k at will
Sure, but my goal during sharpening is to do a 17:00 5K at the beginning of each session.
In the fall of 2003, I did 17:30 for 5K at the beginning of each of my sharpening sessions.
ranger
Yet now you can't best 18 min for 5K ... at any pace/rate/spi/weight you choose ... so Mike is better.
What is it about "Mike" being better? Do you have a brother named Mike? Is your department head named Mike? Is it just bad luck???
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ranger
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by ranger » March 24th, 2011, 9:47 am
mikvan52 wrote:500m - 1:35.6 - 35
100m in 18.9 - 1:34.5 - 41
200m in 19.1 - 1:35.5 - 34
300m in 19.3 - 1:36.5 - 31
400m in 19.1 - 1:35.5 - 35
500m in 19.2 - 1:36.0 - 34
I did this after two crummy 400's ~ they stank.
None the less: 1:35.6 @ 35 is rowing well when you weigh 162 lbs as I do... Consider the watts per kilo factor...and that I am not a spring chicken... as you still are
I don't see the point of this sort of thing at all.
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
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by ranger » March 24th, 2011, 9:49 am
JimR wrote:Yet now you can't best 18 min for 5K ... at any pace/rate/spi/weight you choose ... so Mike is better.
I suppose we'll see.
A FM @ 1:48 is 8.5 x 5K @ 18:00 (no rest), HR middlin' UT1.
A FM is done at 5K + 9.
1:48 will be my target for the FM when I do a FM trial in a month or so.
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
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by snowleopard » March 24th, 2011, 10:05 am
ranger wrote:mikvan52 wrote: I can erg under 18:00 for 5k at will
Sure, but my goal during sharpening is to do a 17:00 5K at the beginning of each session.
In the fall of 2003, I did 17:30 for 5K at the beginning of each of my sharpening sessions.
ranger,
Why are you running scared? If sharpening is worth 12 seconds over a 2K it must be worth around 30 seconds over 5K. That means you could sit on the erg right now and pull a 17:30 without even preparing for it.
Except you can't. Why is that?
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JimR
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by JimR » March 24th, 2011, 10:21 am
snowleopard wrote:ranger wrote:mikvan52 wrote: I can erg under 18:00 for 5k at will
Sure, but my goal during sharpening is to do a 17:00 5K at the beginning of each session.
In the fall of 2003, I did 17:30 for 5K at the beginning of each of my sharpening sessions.
ranger,
Why are you running scared? If sharpening is worth 12 seconds over a 2K it must be worth around 30 seconds over 5K. That means you could sit on the erg right now and pull a 17:30 without even preparing for it.
Except you can't. Why is that?
I think because he needs to take frequent breaks to "think" about this incredible stroke of his ... it is so great it brings tears to his eyes and he can't see the beauty of his force curve.
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by ben990 » March 24th, 2011, 11:37 am
ranger wrote:mikvan52 wrote: I can erg under 18:00 for 5k at will
Sure, but my goal during sharpening is to do a 17:00 5K at the beginning of each session.
In the fall of 2003, I did 17:30 for 5K at the beginning of each of my sharpening sessions.
ranger
ranger,
That was then. Today, Mike rows "weller" than you. A lot "weller".
Based upon your current results and the way you train, this will not be any different anytime soon.
Mission accomplished ... by Mike.
Rich Cureton M 60 hwt 5'11" 180 lbs. 7:02.3 (lwt) 2K
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by jliddil » March 24th, 2011, 11:56 am
OK folks move along. Nothing to see here.
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by kini62 » March 24th, 2011, 12:07 pm
ranger wrote:
To someone who has three WR rows and is on track in their training to pull 26 seconds under the WR for their age and weight?
ranger
Just who is that?
Can't be you. You do not have 3 WR rows. Your crazy train derailed a LONG time ago.
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by ranger » March 24th, 2011, 12:13 pm
snowleopard wrote:That means you could sit on the erg right now and pull a 17:30 without even preparing for it.
Sure, no problem.
But for 5K, my target is 16:30, not 17:30.
I will try to get there by working down from FM, to HM, to 60min, to 10K, to 30min, and to 6K trials.
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by jliddil » March 24th, 2011, 12:21 pm
JD
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by snowleopard » March 24th, 2011, 1:28 pm
ranger wrote:snowleopard wrote:That means you could sit on the erg right now and pull a 17:30 without even preparing for it.
Sure, no problem.
Liar.
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by Nosmo » March 24th, 2011, 1:37 pm
KevJGK wrote:Rich - You cannot come back from that.
That has to be the knockout blow!
Even you have to agree that's it, it's all over - game, set & match?
Mike is much better than you.
End of story.
No?
Do you actually think ranger would admit anything? What have you been smoking?
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by ranger » March 24th, 2011, 3:03 pm
nosmo wrote:Do you actually think ranger would admit anything?
Hey, I admit all sorts of stuff.
For instance, I've admitted that I am the best ever--repeatedly.
I've admitted that my training is right on track for 6:16 at 60.
I've admitted that I am much better than I was back in 2003.
I've admitted that I now row well at low drag.
I've admitted that my coach is the best in the world.
Dang!
I've admitted so much!
What else is there?
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snowleopard
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by snowleopard » March 24th, 2011, 3:16 pm
ranger wrote:For instance, I've admitted that I am the best ever--repeatedly.
Well that must be another and rather obvious and stupid lie. All your world records were soft, have been beaten and you don't hold any at any distance.
ipso facto there are plenty out there better than you. So you're just a posturing prick.
Anyway, back to your 17:30 5K. I bet you $500 you can't post one in the next seven days (with HR data of course).
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by Citroen » March 24th, 2011, 3:16 pm
ranger wrote:For instance, I've admitted that I am the best ever--repeatedly.
You may be the "best ever", but you've not told us what it is that you're "best ever" at. Two things you're not "best ever" at are 1. poetry professor (we've all read the "rate my prof" reports) and 2. rower (7:02 @ BIRC and crashed OTW).
Best ever "paranoid schizophrenic lying narcissist drunk internet troll" could be a title that you can adopt.
