Ranger's training thread

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 6:15 am

If I hit all of my distance targets and end up holding all of the 60s _heavyweight_ WRs from a FM to 5K, I'll beat Hendershott's 60s heavyweight 2K WR, too, by two seconds per 500.

6:16 at 60 is out of the reach of Dick Cashin, or anyone else currently rowing, when they turn 60.

Only one 60s heavyweight has ever rowed sub-6:30.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 6:17 am

Sure, 60s heavyweights _should_ be able to row as fast as 5:55.

But no one yet has taken up that (lifetime, in addition to sport-specific) challenge.

6:23.7 is the current 60s hwt standard.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » March 23rd, 2011, 6:48 am

Let's face it Rich, you're only on here for shits and giggles. You're not going to put a time up ever again.

If you were capable of a 6:16 light 2k (which you aren't), a 6:50 would be a warmup paddle.

And a 1:48 FM? You can't at any rate or weight.

Watching you make an utter arse of yourself just gets better and better.
Rich Cureton. 7:02 at BIRC. But "much better than that now". Yeah, right.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ben990 » March 23rd, 2011, 7:31 am

ranger wrote:
ranger wrote:Given even minimal decline with age (e.g., a second over 2K per year), a 6:16 at 60 is 23 seconds better than a 6:16 at, say, 37.

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This guy rows 6:16 on the erg.

He's 37.

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What does the wife say when she catches you firing off some knuckle-children to this picture?!

You are a sad pathetic lying little old man. How do you look at yourself in the mirror?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by rjw » March 23rd, 2011, 7:41 am

ranger wrote:
This guy (Eskild Ebbesen) rows 6:16 on the erg.

He's 37.
And you row 7:02 and you are 60! No?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 8:50 am

rjw wrote:And you row 7:02 and you are 60! No?
Sure, for a HM.

10 x 2K (no rest) @ 1:45.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 9:20 am

ausrwr wrote:Let's face it Rich, you're only on here for shits and giggles.
Yea, nothing serious at all about my success as an erger.

Just some fun to pass the time.

The good life.

It's fun to be the best at something, whatever it might be, even something as insignificant as erging.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 10:02 am

ausrwr wrote:You're not going to put a time up ever again.
Say what?

Not at all.

I am going to do a FM @ 1:48; then a HM @ 1:45; then 60min @ 1:44; then 10K @ 1:42; then 30min @ 1:41; then 6K @ 1:40; then 5K @ 1:39.

I'll do these as a heavyweight.

If I hit these targets, they will all be 60s hwt WRs--by enormous margins, 3-6 seconds per 500m.

At the moment, I have no interest in getting to weight and doing a lightweight 2K.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » March 23rd, 2011, 10:10 am

ranger wrote:
ausrwr wrote:You're not going to put a time up ever again.
Say what?

Not at all.

I am going to do a FM @ 1:48; then a HM @ 1:45; then 60min @ 1:44; then 10K @ 1:42; then 30min @ 1:41; then 6K @ 1:40; then 5K @ 1:39.

I'll do these as a heavyweight.

If I hit these targets, they will all be 60s hwt WRs--by enormous margins, 3-6 seconds per 500m.

At the moment, I have no interest in getting to weight and doing a lightweight 2K.

ranger
Considering all these things must be done before you HWT 2K ... and that the FM has been 5+ years in the making ... do you realize you will be 95 before you are ready to race a 2K??? By then you should be a LWT!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » March 23rd, 2011, 10:14 am

ranger wrote: At the moment, I have no interest in getting to weight and doing a lightweight 2K.
Try to cast your mind back, way back, to March 20th, 2011, when you said:
ranger wrote: I am a 60s lightweight
I'm sure others have their favorites, but if you're using a Mac can I suggest 'Notational Velocity' as a tool for remembering the assertions you've made so you can make it an entire week without contradicting yourself. Or given the amount of prose you put out, perhaps 'Scrivener' would suit you better; you could treat yourself as an invented character, which isn't far from the truth.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by rjw » March 23rd, 2011, 10:51 am

ranger wrote:
rjw wrote:And you row 7:02 and you are 60! No?
Sure, for a HM.

10 x 2K (no rest) @ 1:45.

ranger
No! Based on the logic that you use for others, you are a 7:02 2k 60 year old erger.

You have no history of your HM claim.

A screen shot would solve that.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ausrwr » March 23rd, 2011, 11:08 am

ranger wrote:
ausrwr wrote:You're not going to put a time up ever again.
Say what?

Not at all.

I am going to do a FM @ 1:48; then a HM @ 1:45; then 60min @ 1:44; then 10K @ 1:42; then 30min @ 1:41; then 6K @ 1:40; then 5K @ 1:39.

I'll do these as a heavyweight.

If I hit these targets, they will all be 60s hwt WRs--by enormous margins, 3-6 seconds per 500m.

At the moment, I have no interest in getting to weight and doing a lightweight 2K.

ranger
You're not going to post a HWT time either. Because you're not going to get anywhere near any of those times. Too old, too slow, too bad.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » March 23rd, 2011, 11:15 am

ausrwr wrote:
ranger wrote:
ausrwr wrote:You're not going to put a time up ever again.
Say what?

Not at all.

I am going to do a FM @ 1:48; then a HM @ 1:45; then 60min @ 1:44; then 10K @ 1:42; then 30min @ 1:41; then 6K @ 1:40; then 5K @ 1:39.

I'll do these as a heavyweight.

If I hit these targets, they will all be 60s hwt WRs--by enormous margins, 3-6 seconds per 500m.

At the moment, I have no interest in getting to weight and doing a lightweight 2K.

ranger
You're not going to post a HWT time either. Because you're not going to get anywhere near any of those times. Too old, too slow, too bad.
Just because he can't produce the fastest times ever doesn't mean he isn't the best erger ever does it???

Well at least he is a multi-millionare ... who won't pay his debts?!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » March 23rd, 2011, 12:51 pm

JimR wrote:Just because he can't produce the fastest times ever doesn't mean he isn't the best erger
I have had the best 2K time in my age and weight division for the last two years, without even preparing for my races.

Last year, no one my age or weight (or older) came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » March 23rd, 2011, 1:09 pm

ranger wrote:
JimR wrote:Just because he can't produce the fastest times ever doesn't mean he isn't the best erger
I have had the best 2K time in my age and weight division for the last two years, without even preparing for my races.

Last year, no one my age or weight (or older) came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

ranger
But I thought you were claiming to be the best EVER ... faster than anyone could have ever been ... crushing records like they were the brittle backs of lesser men.

Now you want to claim that a 6:41 (because it was a bit better than others) is the same as your claims of being in 6:16 form?!

I can't figure out what happened to all the reaping you were going to do from the years of investing ...

JimR

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