Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Ah, I see that this is the the 'success' that Ranger will claim in his training over the last few years... he will claim that he now rows 1:48 @ 155bpm whereas previously he used to row at 1:54

Indeed.

At least for a first claim, given that this will be my first race, fully prepared, rowing well at low drag (108 df.).

Then I will move on to the HM and make similar claims.

Then I will move on to 60min and make similar claims.

Then I will move on to 10K and make similar claims.

Then I will move on to 30min and make similar claims.

Then I will move on to 6K and make similar claims.

Then I will move on to 5K and make similar claims.

If my training has been as successful and I think it has been, by the time I am done with distance trials, I should hold _all_ of the 60s _heavyweight_ WRs from a FM to 5K.

ranger

[lancs]

No reason to "prove" your training.

<snipped more rubbish & lies>

That will be 4 x 10K @ 1:48 (no rest).

I think there probably is a reason to prove your training if you make such outlandish claims as having a 'steady state' speed of 1:48, which you clearly do not.

I know Maths isn't your strong point, but given you can't do 1x10k @ 1:48, I wouldn't worry about doing the 4.

Why do you lie so much?

[KevJGK]

I wonder why he lies so much?

He can't help himself.

We shouldn't hate an extremely unhealthy narcissist for being what he is - he lacks the capacity to realise what he's doing and if anything deserves pity.

[mikvan52]

Training isn't a performance.

One of the central attitudes that ranger hides behind...

Rich: Please consider changing your spots and sharing the details of your training in IND_V format with HR.

[ranger]

Lancs--

You seem to want me to train like you.

Why in the world would I want to do that?

Your training has no resemblance to mine.

Given my age and weight and your age and weight, the quality of my racing also has no resemblance to yours.

So you are just talking about your own poor self.

Fine.

But no reason to do it here.

How about your wife?

Maybe she would be interested in your pathetic stories.

At least you'd be singing to the choir in private rather than making a fool out of yourself in public.

ranger

[ranger]

I think there probably is a reason to prove your training if you make such outlandish claims as having a 'steady state' speed of 1:48, which you clearly do not.

I know Maths isn't your strong point, but given you can't do 1x10k @ 1:48, I wouldn't worry about doing the 4.

You don't know anything of the sort.

It's you who are getting worse and worse.

I know the truth hurts, but talking about yourself as though the chatter is about me does no one any good, especially you.

If you want to get better, you have to earn it.

ranger

[PaulH]

Any more thoughts on my wager proposal? To remind you, if you don't row a 1:48 marathon by the end of April you stop commenting here. If you do succeed then I'll post a single message (sincerely) complimenting you, and then I'll stop commenting.

I imagine I could get one or two other people to join in, if that will provide more incentive for you. It would really emphasize the truth this time of your oft-repeated phrase "coming right up".

[mikvan52]

AS this is (sometimes) a training thread:

Let me respond to the the question of whether the FM is a good training tool for competitive erging at distances, 5k and under:




but, seriously: 26 mile racing prep the best for 1.25 mile racing prep... ? GMAFB ! Any exercise physiologists want to chime in?
Not that people can't be great at both.

I stand by my statement of a few days ago.... It is uneccessary to race a marathon to be your best at 2k... No brainer.

Old(er) men like Curerton and me need not pretend we have all this energy (and recovery capability) to race at 10 distances throughout the year...
Geez Louise guys...in the real world... let's not 'overdo' for the sake of bragging rights.

For you younger guys: Ask yourself: "How many milers (four lappers on the track) have the WR for 25 lappers (10k)?
None....
Now: (more than) Quadruple the distance! (42,195m)

Getting back to what ranger actually does:
It's clear, anyway, that ranger "doesn't"...
As in:
"FM coming right up!" to which I reply... "go away or I will have to taunt you again."

[bellboy]

Lancs--

You seem to want me to train like you.

Why in the world would I want to do that?

Your training has no resemblance to mine.

Given my age and weight and your age and weight, the quality of my racing also has no resemblance to yours.

So you are just talking about your own poor self.

Fine.

But no reason to do it here.

How about your wife?

Maybe she would be interested in your pathetic stories.

At least you'd be singing to the choir in private rather than making a fool out of yourself in public.

ranger

Oh dear. I presume you have had an argument with the missus this morning. Did you wake her from her slumber by maniacally bashing the keyboard in a vain attempt to illicit a response from a sane individual who has called your bluff on every ridiculous claim you have made? Your talking ultra's now that "should" get your weight in order? Hells bells man. How heavy are you? You must be burning thousands of calories a day (if your not telling porkies) so begs the question. Are you Mr Creosote in disguise?

[ranger]

Let me respond to the the question of whether the FM is a good training tool for competitive erging at distances, 5k and under

Well...

All the distance rows are great 2K predictors, and formulaically, they all predict both one another and 2K.

Bob mentioned the major reason to start at a FM.

If you do, the other events just follow as a matter of course.

The IP plan is structured in a similar way.

A FM is just UT2 rowing, really.

Then a HM, 60min, 10K and 30min are UT1 rowing--of various sorts.

6K and 5K are AT.

2K is TR.

1K is AN.

ranger

[ranger]

I stand by my statement of a few days ago.... It is uneccessary to race a marathon to be your best at 2k... No brainer.

Actually, just the opposite, Mike.

Everything that you can do for 2K is reflected in your UT2 score.

The rest is redundant.

It is your UT2 score that reflects your effectiveness and efficiency when rowing, given your aerobic capacity.

That's all she wrote.

ranger

[ranger]

Mike--

So, what's your UT2 pace?

If UT2 is 2K +15, as the IP plan suggests, your UT2 pace should be 1:58.

Why futz around with a FM?

Well...

If you could lower your UT2 pace to 1:49, you could pull 1:34/6:16 for 2K rather than 1:43/6:52.

You're not interested?

Hey.

To each his own.

But you should consider this:

You won't ever get better over 2K without improving your effectiveness and efficiency while rowing relative to your aerobic capacity, your UT2 score.

There are no short cuts.

ranger

[ranger]

Any more thoughts on my wager proposal? To remind you, if you don't row a 1:48 marathon by the end of April you stop commenting here. If you do succeed then I'll post a single message (sincerely) complimenting you, and then I'll stop commenting.

I imagine I could get one or two other people to join in, if that will provide more incentive for you. It would really emphasize the truth this time of your oft-repeated phrase "coming right up".

Paul, don't know why you think so, but you don't have anything to do with my rowing.

I don't care what you say here.

If you want to embarrass yourself talking about stuff you don't have a clue about, hey, what can I say?

There are fools everywhere, especially on the internet.

You are in good company!

There is no need for bets, deals, etc., with respect to my rowing.

I'll just keep reporting my training and post the results of my races as they come in.

My training is done.

Fait accompli.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (108 df.).

My race preparation is coming along beautifully now, too.

ranger

[PaulH]

Fair enough, I guess you lack the confidence to back up your boasts, and who can blame you? A history as rich as yours in promising and failing to deliver on your promises doesn't happen by accident, after all.

[redzone]

Seeing as our beloved prof-tagonist is being so cheerful today, how about a game of Ranger Bingo to liven things up?




I'm wondering when we'll see the lesser spotted 'In the fall' appear this season. Can't be long now...