Ranger's training thread
Re: Ranger's training thread
Mike--
I have already done a sub-6:30 2K at 12 SPI, without even preparing for it.
Just because you haven't is no reason to say that I haven't.
You haven't come within 15 second of that, and now you would have a hard time coming within 25 seconds of that.
ranger
I have already done a sub-6:30 2K at 12 SPI, without even preparing for it.
Just because you haven't is no reason to say that I haven't.
You haven't come within 15 second of that, and now you would have a hard time coming within 25 seconds of that.
ranger
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Nope.mikvan52 wrote:One hard, ten easy, one hard, ten easy....
They are all the same.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
I'll get some 2Ks on utube for you over the next week or so.
I figured out how to do the camera and lighting, etc., in my basement this morning, but that was after my 20K session, so as it turned out, I was too tired to do 2Ks.
ranger
I figured out how to do the camera and lighting, etc., in my basement this morning, but that was after my 20K session, so as it turned out, I was too tired to do 2Ks.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Subject Change again:ranger wrote:Mike--
I have already done a sub-6:30 2K at 12 SPI, without even preparing for it.
Just because you haven't is no reason to say that I haven't.
You haven't come within 15 second of that, and now you would have a hard time coming within 25 seconds of that.
ranger
What do you do now as a lwt ...
??
How about what you did as a 55-59 lwt..?
Answer 6:40.. to my 6:45
You are 5 seconds better as of a couple years ago.
Now: I am at 6:55 and you are at 7:02.
and.. you still cannot do an IND_V 2k this year at 12.5 watts/spm as you claimed up until this morning when you dropped your target to 12.0.
It's a bs measurement anyway.
That's why you like it.
3 Crash-B hammers
American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
62 yrs, 160 lbs, 6' ...
American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
62 yrs, 160 lbs, 6' ...
Re: Ranger's training thread
All your screen shots today tell a different story.ranger wrote:Nope.mikvan52 wrote:One hard, ten easy, one hard, ten easy....
They are all the same.
ranger
3 Crash-B hammers
American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
62 yrs, 160 lbs, 6' ...
American 60's Lwt. 2k record (6:49) •• set WRs for 60' & FM •• ~ now surpassed
repeat combined Masters Lwt & Hwt 1x National Champion E & F class
62 yrs, 160 lbs, 6' ...
Re: Ranger's training thread
No you won't. And, if I'm wrong it will not be an IND_V w/HR data from your suunto belt because the complete picture would refute most everything you've claimed.ranger wrote:I'll get some 2Ks on utube for you over the next week or so.
I figured out how to do the camera and lighting, etc., in my basement this morning, but that was after my 20K session, so as it turned out, I was too tired to do 2Ks.
ranger
There is no reason to delay an easy 2k piece at UT tomorrow.
Set the *WORKOUT to 2k after enabling your HR.
after you are done
*MORE OPTIONS
*MEMORY
(+)
It's so effing easy!
I don't need you to "race your training"
just show everyone here how you really row during part of your daily 20k..
Faker.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
WTF? You already have a bunch of videos from the crypt on YouTube. Did you forget how you did them the last time? Sheeshranger wrote:I figured out how to do the camera and lighting, etc., in my basement this morning

Re: Ranger's training thread
I pulled the sub-6:30 2K @ 12 SPI at high drag in 2006 when I was 55, and without proper training--distance rowing, distance trials, anaerobic intervals, etc.
The great advantage of doing the same thing at low drag is the rise in efficiency.
Because of the massively high ratios when you row at 12-13 SPI and 95 df., high rates don't feel frenetic at all.
Drive time is almost instantaneous.
Most of the time is spent resting.
Right up to race rates, e.g., 35 spm.
At 95 df. and 12 SPI, I don't know, but I might pull 36 spm in close to a 3-to-1 ratio.
.4 seconds for the drive.
1.2 seconds for the recovery.
The drive is easier to do at low drag, too, because it is done more with the legs and against lighter resistance.
Of course. this time around, I can also do my training completely, and in the proper order, from the top down, starting with the FM, working through other distance trials, then moving on to long (TR) and short (AN) intervals.
I did nothing of the sort in 2006.
ranger
The great advantage of doing the same thing at low drag is the rise in efficiency.
Because of the massively high ratios when you row at 12-13 SPI and 95 df., high rates don't feel frenetic at all.
Drive time is almost instantaneous.
Most of the time is spent resting.
Right up to race rates, e.g., 35 spm.
At 95 df. and 12 SPI, I don't know, but I might pull 36 spm in close to a 3-to-1 ratio.
.4 seconds for the drive.
1.2 seconds for the recovery.
The drive is easier to do at low drag, too, because it is done more with the legs and against lighter resistance.
Of course. this time around, I can also do my training completely, and in the proper order, from the top down, starting with the FM, working through other distance trials, then moving on to long (TR) and short (AN) intervals.
I did nothing of the sort in 2006.
ranger
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
That was five years ago.snowleopard wrote:WTF? You already have a bunch of videos from the crypt on YouTube. Did you forget how you did them the last time? Sheeshranger wrote:I figured out how to do the camera and lighting, etc., in my basement this morning
My erg's not in the same place.
The lighting is different.
Etc.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Yum.
Garlic bread is just out of the oven, from bread I baked fresh yesterday.
Now I am moving on to this:
http://southernfood.about.com/od/redsna ... 51029a.htm
A nice salad with fingerling potatoes will be sides.
The wine is Argenginian, Catena Cabernet 2007.
ranger
Garlic bread is just out of the oven, from bread I baked fresh yesterday.
Now I am moving on to this:
http://southernfood.about.com/od/redsna ... 51029a.htm
A nice salad with fingerling potatoes will be sides.
The wine is Argenginian, Catena Cabernet 2007.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Don't forget the "run" of the erg at low drag. All those lovely "free metres".ranger wrote:In rowing, the major advantage of low drag, I think, is that it encourages faster legs and footwork, if you have the skills to handle it.

If you can take a picture of your screen at the end of a minute or so of trying to find that one perfect stroke that fits your nebulous argument, what's so difficult about taking one at the end of 20K? Forget where the camera is?
David Chmilowskyj
M 58 6ft 4in/1.94m 230lb/105kg
Team Oarsome
M 58 6ft 4in/1.94m 230lb/105kg
Team Oarsome
Re: Ranger's training thread
No need to take the _end_ of the 20K.Tinpusher wrote:Don't forget the "run" of the erg at low drag. All those lovely "free metres".ranger wrote:In rowing, the major advantage of low drag, I think, is that it encourages faster legs and footwork, if you have the skills to handle it.![]()
If you can take a picture of your screen at the end of a minute or so of trying to find that one perfect stroke that fits your nebulous argument, what's so difficult about taking one at the end of 20K? Forget where the camera is?
I can film the monitor for the whole thing.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Hmm.
The 95 df. thing is a nice lark.
It's fine at 23 spm, "Steamrollering."
But it is clear that my legs are too short to make it work at race rates (36 spm, etc.).
120 df. is much better there, and so, probably, everywhere.
ranger
The 95 df. thing is a nice lark.
It's fine at 23 spm, "Steamrollering."
But it is clear that my legs are too short to make it work at race rates (36 spm, etc.).
120 df. is much better there, and so, probably, everywhere.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
You can! But you won't.ranger wrote:No need to take the _end_ of the 20K.
I can film the monitor for the whole thing.

We're not interested in watching you huff and puff your way through it all, just the screenshot at the end will do. Your memory card probably isn't big enough for the couple of hours it will take.

David Chmilowskyj
M 58 6ft 4in/1.94m 230lb/105kg
Team Oarsome
M 58 6ft 4in/1.94m 230lb/105kg
Team Oarsome
Re: Ranger's training thread
I'm not very interested in what you are interested in.Tinpusher wrote:We're not interested in watching you huff and puff your way through it all, just the screenshot at the end will do.
Clearly, it's not very productive.
Someone who is more on the ball might be interested, though.
So, it wouldn't be a waste.
The loss would be yours.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)