Ranger's training thread

[mikvan52]

12 SPI

22 spm 1:50
26 spm 1:44
30 spm 1:39
32 spm 1:37
34 spm 1:35
35 spm 1:34

ranger

and....
the predictable lowering of target paces that will never be rowed
(yawn)

The easiest one on this table would be: "22 spm 1:50"

Go for it: 2k / 22spm / 1:50 / UT level HR / Screen Shot / IND_V..

(Nope)
Liar.

You forget a major item, Rich:

I actually know what it's like to row for an hour at low rate w/o a break. I set the lwt 55-59 best ever mark...
Click here


You, OTOH, haven't ever done one as a 55-60 yr old... You're waiting... For what, we don't really know...

[ranger]

why the last three years of training have no made you any better?

Depends on what you mean by "better."

It looks to me as though I am getting better right where it counts.

I am now pulling a comfortable 12 SPI @ 95 df.

So, my rowing skills have improved _enormously_.

Improving my technique has always been my only way of getting better.

I _can't_ get better by increasing my physical capacities and fitness.

My physical capacities and fitness are _very_ high relative to others, and personally, have been maximal for a decade.

ranger

[mikvan52]

I am now pulling a comfortable 12 SPI @ 95 df.

for one stroke

[ranger]

why do you make any assumptions of about an FM trial happening soon

I just said that I am _not_ making any assumptions about what my body will do and not.

I am just working hard and listening closely to my body as it takes me along for the ride.

ranger

[mikvan52]

why do you make any assumptions of about an FM trial happening soon

I am (snip) listening closely to my body as it takes me along for the ride.

"Speak to me, Oh body of Adonis!"

rich:
speak to this:

http://concept2.co.uk/forum/blog.php?u=7679&b=45297

it was "Only" 10.1 spi...

Will YOU (before this week is out) erg for an hour w/o a break at 1:51 pace and mid twenties stroke rate?
Don't wait.. as lancs sez... you ain't-a-gittin any younger.
Remember to drop your stroke rate below my 25 spm avg so you can show (with an IND_V) that you row "all your strokes" at 12 spi....

Get going "Steamroller"!
Your Power per stroke per minute minute is now falling at a factor of 0.5 every 6 mo... by your own recent testimonies...

[JimR]

why do you make any assumptions of about an FM trial happening soon

I just said that I am _not_ making any assumptions about what my body will do and not.

I am just working hard and listening closely to my body as it takes me along for the ride.

ranger

You said you assumed you would do an fm trial in a month or so ... something you said three years ago.

Has someone incredibly stupid highjacked your login and started posting random crap about erging by taking things you have posted in the past and adding other unrelated info? That would explain most of what I read lately from this "ranger".

JimR

[ranger]

JIm--

Can you read?

Or did you mean "I will probably train for a month or a year, or heck even ten years or longer before I give it a go. Beats me."

Sure, I might train for more than a month before things come together for a FM trial.

I hope not, but who knows?

Nothing wrong with persistence and long-term goals.

Doesn't really matter, in my case.

What I am doing now beats you (and everyone else), anyway, without even preparing for it.

ranger

ranger

[ranger]

Your Power per stroke per minute minute is now falling at a factor of 0.5 every 6 mo... by your own recent testimonies...

That's fine, if the drag is going down, too.

Same motion, less resistance.

As I mentioned, the lower drag seems to be better for me now, though, given my quicker legs and better footwork.

Better timing (more legs before I swing my back) and not as much muscular distress (on my upper body, bracing itself against the power applied by my legs).

I think this will help quite a bit on a FM.

For a little lightweight, especially one who is 60 years old, 12 SPI @ 95 df. is _great_ stuff.

I couldn't ask for anything better.

ranger

[mikvan52]

JIm--

Can you read?

What I am doing now beats you (and everyone else), anyway, without even preparing for it.


ranger

Another lie:
Witness the 10x2k/1:00r workout that I did and ranger cannot do
The goal was to stay below AT and rate cap at 23-24 spm.

ranger quit and didn't finish his...
He's "listening to his body" noises...


Witness his lwt 7:02 2k this season vs my 6:55

Witness : No ranked workouts at all...

Sure you're better! .. a better talker...

[ranger]

Sure you're better!

Glad we agree.

ranger

[mikvan52]

Funny: I go faster at lower drag factor at the same rate...

(another ranger hype - balloon shot down)

[mikvan52]

To readers:

No need to read all the posts today: Here's the down and dirty:

ranger did his EBP (erging between posts)
3:23 am to 5:31 am
during which he set up his camera and took shots of 2-300 meters of erging..

I wonder what a photo of
the screen after
*MORE OPTIONS
*MEMORY
key "stroking" would show

PWB... posting with breaks...

[Steve G]

Yet another new stroke at 95 DF Rich.
Does the habituation period restart from then, do we wait until you are 65 for a timed piece?

Who knows you may eventually go back to max drag, rowing like crap, and post a decent time again!

Steve

[ranger]

the predictable lowering of target paces

No targets were mentioned, much less new ones.

Just combinations of rates and paces, a new stroking power.

ranger

[ranger]

Yet another new stroke at 95 DF Rich.
Does the habituation period restart from then, do we wait until you are 65 for a timed piece?

Who knows you may eventually go back to max drag, rowing like crap, and post a decent time again!

Steve

No, the stroke is the same.

I am not changing a thing, just lowing the drag.

And for 2K, I'll probably still race at 120 df.

For the FM, 95 d.f might indeed be best, though.

At a low rate, it is easy to catch the wheel.

My length, footwork, and leg quickness are now entirely up to it.

And with a shorter drive time, ratios rise, especially at these low rates, providing more rest yet between drives.

Over 2.5 hours, the lighter chain, given my leg speed now, is also easier on my upper body.

There is less skeletal-muscular wear and tear.

_Very_ elegant rowing.

ranger