Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 5:18 pm

Given decline with age, my 6:29.7 in 2006, at 55, unprepared, at high drag, still stuggling with technique, is the equivalent of 6:21.2 at 50.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (119 df.).

And I am now preparing to race.

Everyone gets about a dozen seconds over 2K from a couple of months of good race preparation.

I am not sure what rowing well at low drag is worth over 2K, but I would expect something comparable.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 5:30 pm

Even if I just do 6:28 now, my pb, now that I am 60, given normal decline with age, I will beat predictions by 16 seconds.

Paul Hendershott rowed 6:11 when he was 50; 6:24 when he was 60.

If I row sub-6:20 now that I am 60, I will beat predictions by almost half a minute.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 5:32 pm

Given my stroking power now, if I just rate 30 spm and pull a 2K straight through, I'll row sub-6:30.

If I rate 34 spm, I'll pull sub-6:20.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 5th, 2011, 6:12 pm

Since our favorite dimwit hasn't bothered explaining himself, I'd just like to point out that ranger didn't race in Detroit today because when he signed up, he thought the race was in March, not February. :D

In fact, even though I've pointed out his dumb mistake several times already, he still thinks he'll be racing in Detroit on March 5th! http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 15#p154525

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » February 5th, 2011, 6:25 pm

Herewith: the anatomy of a ranger post...


If this then that.

So and so does this and that which is not as good as what I think I can do eventually but will never actually try.

I am a lwt living in a hwt body.

I am a financial genius who is about to retire early because I am so well respected by my peers.

I am so intellectually refined. Perhaps this is why I listen exclusively to Country Music.

Rowing is a hobby for me; posting is my major pursuit.

My perfs in 2003 prove that I am the greatest erger that ever was. The fact that I do not have any WRs is on no consequence.

I will repeat this post endlessly from now until I drop.

Hi Yo Silver! Cocktail hour has arrived: Saddle up Juice Lady.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by whp4 » February 5th, 2011, 6:51 pm

ranger wrote: What time are you shooting for?

Better than your 7:05 from last year?
Don't forget that's what you did last time you had the guts to show up at WIRC, claiming that you were going to beat the heavyweights rowing with a lightweight stamp :lol:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Tinpusher » February 5th, 2011, 6:57 pm

macroth wrote:Since our favorite dimwit hasn't bothered explaining himself, I'd just like to point out that ranger didn't race in Detroit today because when he signed up, he thought the race was in March, not February. :D

In fact, even though I've pointed out his dumb mistake several times already, he still thinks he'll be racing in Detroit on March 5th! http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 15#p154525

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When I asked why he wasn't registered for Toronto tomorrow, he said he was going to make the short trip to Detroit today rather than trek across here. So he knew that Detroit was today and chose not to race. :roll:

As to why he's delusional about Detroit being a month away, in addition to all the other delusions, who knows. :lol:
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Rockin Roland » February 5th, 2011, 7:01 pm

ranger wrote:Given decline with age, my 6:29.7 in 2006, at 55, unprepared, at high drag, still stuggling with technique, is the equivalent of 6:21.2 at 50.

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Just like my 6:13 at 87kg is equivalent to 6:00 if I had weighed 100 kg.

In ranger's world if can equal whatever he wants it to equal.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 7:25 pm

Rockin Roland wrote:
ranger wrote:Given decline with age, my 6:29.7 in 2006, at 55, unprepared, at high drag, still stuggling with technique, is the equivalent of 6:21.2 at 50.

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Just like my 6:13 at 87kg is equivalent to 6:00 if I had weighed 100 kg.
Sure.

It is.

And if you could do you 6:13 at 75 kgs., you would be world class.

At the moment, I am not leaning on these adujustments for weight and age at all, though.

When I am fully prepared for it, I think I now have the horses to pull 6:16 at 75 kgs.

That would just be a straight up improvement for me, regardless of my present age.

If I get something like this done, the relation between this time and the times of my competitors will become pretty evident, though.

No?

The 60s lwt race at WIRC 2010 was won in 7:04.

The 60s _heavyweight_ WR is 6:23.8.

Only one 60s _heavyweight_ has ever pulled sub-6:30: Paul Hendershott.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 7:32 pm

macroth wrote:Since our favorite dimwit hasn't bothered explaining himself, I'd just like to point out that ranger didn't race in Detroit today because when he signed up, he thought the race was in March, not February. :D

In fact, even though I've pointed out his dumb mistake several times already, he still thinks he'll be racing in Detroit on March 5th! http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 15#p154525

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep.

I am racing in Detroit on March 5th, not at the Detroit Boat House on Belle Isle but down in Wyandotte.

I went to Wyandotte last year, too.

Grosse Isle, not Belle Isle.

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safa ... CCQQ8gEwAA

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 7:45 pm

whp4 wrote:
ranger wrote: What time are you shooting for?

Better than your 7:05 from last year?
Don't forget that's what you did last time you had the guts to show up at WIRC, claiming that you were going to beat the heavyweights rowing with a lightweight stamp :lol:
Yes.

I didn't pull it off in 2006.

But I gave it a try.

If first you don't succeed, try, try, again.

:D :D

So now we have round two.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 5th, 2011, 7:51 pm

mikvan52 wrote:Herewith: the anatomy of a ranger post...


If this then that.

So and so does this and that which is not as good as what I think I can do eventually but will never actually try.

I am a lwt living in a hwt body.

I am a financial genius who is about to retire early because I am so well respected by my peers.

I am so intellectually refined. Perhaps this is why I listen exclusively to Country Music.

Rowing is a hobby for me; posting is my major pursuit.

My perfs in 2003 prove that I am the greatest erger that ever was. The fact that I do not have any WRs is on no consequence.

I will repeat this post endlessly from now until I drop.

Hi Yo Silver! Cocktail hour has arrived: Saddle up Juice Lady.
I repeat:

My 6:41s the last two years (at max drag, unprepared, still struggling with technique) are faster than any lwt 58 and 59 has ever rowed.

These rows are equivalent, entirely, to the lwt 6:28 I pulled when I was 52.

I am happy to have you try to pull a lwt 6:41 this year--or next.

Be my guest.

Last year, you pulled 6:50 at WIRC.

You'll have to get quite a bit better to pull 6:41.

For whatever reason, you aren't even racing this year.

So, next year, it will be even harder for you to make headway on this project.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by MRapp » February 5th, 2011, 8:01 pm

I have a question for you ranger. I know you wont answer it truthfully, I simply want it out on the board again so you are forced to run and hide and look like the coward you are.

Why wont you post a screenshot of your daily sessions? And why wont we have seen a 8x500 screenshot two months from now, even though you will be doing them repeatedly? You claim to not be RWB's any longer. You know how to go back in memory and pull up your dialy session. Show it. I believe you would be able to go back and show an hour or two at 1:46 correct? You've been doing this every day for a while now.

The answer is obvious, I just think it would be amusing to hear the lie you tell to get around doing it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by heptasyllabic » February 5th, 2011, 8:19 pm

ranger wrote: I didn't pull it off in 2006.

But I gave it a try.

If first you don't succeed, try, try, again.

:D :D

So now we have round two.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 6th, 2011, 1:33 am

Tinpusher wrote:
macroth wrote:Since our favorite dimwit hasn't bothered explaining himself, I'd just like to point out that ranger didn't race in Detroit today because when he signed up, he thought the race was in March, not February. :D

In fact, even though I've pointed out his dumb mistake several times already, he still thinks he'll be racing in Detroit on March 5th! http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 15#p154525

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When I asked why he wasn't registered for Toronto tomorrow, he said he was going to make the short trip to Detroit today rather than trek across here. So he knew that Detroit was today and chose not to race. :roll:
The plot thickens... :)
ranger wrote:
Yep.

I am racing in Detroit on March 5th, not at the Detroit Boat House on Belle Isle but down in Wyandotte.

I went to Wyandotte last year, too.

Grosse Isle, not Belle Isle.

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safa ... CCQQ8gEwAA

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Is that so? That doesn't explain why you DNS'd again yesterday, but care to link to the actual race? I can't find it anywhere.
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