Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

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[ranger]

This year, if I don't qualify, I am going anyway, on my own coin.

I'll just drag my slow sorry ass there and try to do my best.

ranger

Does trying to do your best include showing up but not doing the race?

Sure. Why not?

Rowing is just a hobby.

I do it for fun.

I can do with it whatever I want.

I am not on a team.

I do not row for a club.

I don't have a coach (other than myself).

I have nothing to prove (I have three WR rows).

I am 60 years old.

Etc.

I am one of the best ergers in the history of the sport.

ranger

[mikvan52]

BTW: I was over in Alexandria, Virginia, the other day to witness the satellite erg race there.
REAL COMPETITIORS were there: (SPOUSTA & SIEBACH & many others)... both erging times that ranger will never approach again.

Why were you just "witnessing," rather than rowing?

I erg for fun in the winter. I row the rest of the year.

I can race whenever I want.

I am not on a team.

I have nothing to prove.

I am 58 years old.

I have contracted a chronic case of ranger[Bot]-itis.

[ranger]

I have contracted a chronic case of rangeritis.

Really?

Wow.

Then you must really be working hard.

And if so, you might win another hammer.

I thought you were just doing what you usually do.



If so, I was worried.

I wondered whether you'd have any chance at all of a hammer this year.

ranger

[ranger]

If the general arc of my training and cross-training gets me to weight by WIRC 2011, as I did in 2006, I'll get a lightweight stamp, even though I will be rowing as a heavyweight.

Then, again, I will have a chance of winning the 60s heavyweight hammer and setting the 60s lightweight world record--simultaneously.

Of course, if I can pull 6:23 or better, I will also have a chance of setting the 60s _heavyweight_ WR, rowing as a lightweight.

ranger

[BrianStaff]

He's entered this Saturday 5 February, Motown Madness -- check Regatta Central

Ageless Men 60 & Up - 2 entries

It won't happen though...weather

[JimR]

If the general arc of my training and cross-training gets me to weight by WIRC 2011, as I did in 2006, I'll get a lightweight stamp, even though I will be rowing as a heavyweight.

Then, again, I will have a chance of winning the 60s heavyweight hammer and setting the 60s lightweight world record--simultaneously.

Of course, if I can pull 6:23 or better, I will also have a chance of setting the 60s _heavyweight_ WR, rowing as a lightweight.

ranger

Wouldn't it be really cool if you erged a 5:40 2K and smoked everyone in the place ... they would have to give you all the hammers for the men I would think. Everyone would need to have you coach them. You would be the best the sport has ever seen!

Of course then you would wake up ... and have nothing but a memory and a wet spot on the bed to show for it.

JimR

[JimR]

He's entered this Saturday 5 February, Motown Madness -- check Regatta Central

Ageless Men 60 & Up - 2 entries

It won't happen though...weather

It is Detroit ... he could run there to lose weight!

Oh wait ... that really happened in Chicago. Sorry ... keeping fact and fiction straight is hard in ranger-land.

JimR

[ranger]

BTW: I was over in Alexandria, Virginia, the other day to witness the satellite erg race there.
REAL COMPETITIORS were there: (SPOUSTA & SIEBACH & many others)... both erging times that ranger will never approach again.

Not sure what's up with this.

Spousta has never been anywhere near a WR on the erg.

He is now rowing 10 seconds off of Hendershott's 60s hwt WR.

On the erg, I have three WR rows.

And more to come.

ranger

[ranger]

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[bellboy]

Wouldn't it be really cool if you erged a 6:16 2K and smoked everyone in the place ... they would have to give you all the hammers for the men I would think. Everyone would need to have you coach them. You would be the best the sport has ever seen!

Yep.

That's exactly my intention.

It will be interesting whether I get it done, no?

In my training, I am now rowing right at these targets (1:48 for a FM, 1:45 for a HM, etc.).

ranger

Iv got more chance of scuttling Salma Hayek while Cameron Diaz films it.

[atklein90]

In my training, I am now rowing right at these targets (1:48 for a FM, 1:45 for a HM, etc.).

ranger

Wait a minute...I'm very much a newbie, but have read almost every single page of this thread over the months that its been going on. Did you just say that you've now rowed a FM at 1:48 and a half marathon at 1:45? Apparently you've rowed them both in the same day because you hadn't done this yesterday?!?!? Very impressive!

[Nosmo]

Wait a minute...I'm very much a newbie, but have read almost every single page of this thread over the months that its been going on. Did you just say that you've now rowed a FM at 1:48 and a half marathon at 1:45? Apparently you've rowed them both in the same day because you hadn't done this yesterday?!?!? Very impressive!

You obviously don't understand the difference between rowing a FM and rowing "at" a FM.

[ranger]

If you want to be as fast as you can be at rowing, the physiological side of the sport is almost irrelevant--and a no-brainer to train for.

Just take long rows at a UT2 HR and 22 spm until you work your up to a FM.

Sure, to row a good 2K, you have to do a lot else in order to prepare to race.

But if you are interested in being as fast as you can be, the rest of this training doesn't matter.

What you can do for a FM @ 22 spm and a UT2 HR predicts your 2K.

A FM @ 22 spm with a UT2 HR is done at 2K + 15.

If you get to a FM @ 22 spm and a UT2 HR and you don't like your pace/time, the only way to get better at 2K is to get better at that FM @ 22 spm and a UT2 HR.

No other sort of rowing will make you better.

Because UT2 rowing, by definition, is physiologically easy, this means that physiological things don't matter much in rowing, at least for rowers of the same age and weight, or if they do, among those who love the sport and therefore do it a lot, these things are quickly equalized.

What determines how fast you do that FM @ 22 spm and a UT2 is not your physiological capacity but how well you row, how effective and efficient your are at rowing, given this mild level of effort.

Your effectiveness when rowing is measured by your stroking power (SPI), how much work you get done on each stroke, given this mild effort.

Your efficiency is measured by your ratio, how long you are resting vs. working when you are rowing at this mild level of effort with whatever stroking power you are using.

Both of these things are technical and skeletal-muscular.

For those the same size and age, they don't have anything to do with aerobic capacity.

ranger

[ranger]

In my training, I am now rowing right at these targets (1:48 for a FM, 1:45 for a HM, etc.).

ranger

Wait a minute...I'm very much a newbie, but have read almost every single page of this thread over the months that its been going on. Did you just say that you've now rowed a FM at 1:48 and a half marathon at 1:45? Apparently you've rowed them both in the same day because you hadn't done this yesterday?!?!? Very impressive!

A FM is just UT2 rowing; a HM, UT1 rowing.

There are lots of ways to do UT rowing other than trials.

Sure, trials verify what you claim about your top-end UT2 and UT1 paces, but you don't really need the trials to know what's up with this rowing.

You do it every day.

You have zillions of hours of evidence.

ranger