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[old] Beastly
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Post by [old] Beastly » June 2nd, 2005, 8:31 am

Hey all,<br /><br />New to the forum and everything and I need some advice. Someone out there has to have something to say about setting up a program to get that 2k score down!<br /><br />Normally, I wouldn't worry about it so much but my acceptance to a rowing club in the fall when I return to New York is contingent on my ability to best the minimally acceptable erg score of 7.20. <br /><br />I'm just a few months back to rowing after a break of 5 years (rowed as a young one, developed chondromalacia patellae, had to quit until I grew up some) and I've gotten my score down pretty consistently since starting again. Now I'm just worried about plateauing or letting the work drop off when team training finishes in 3 weeks.<br /><br />Right now I'm at 7.37 and I can do it, I will do it, but any advice anyone has on getting it down, good interval training or anything, would be much appreciated!<br /><br />Thanks all!

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Post by [old] Stretch » June 2nd, 2005, 10:37 am

Take a look at the C2 UK <a href='http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/interactive.php' target='_blank'>Interactive Training Program.</a> It is simple to use, the advice is sound and it will let you design a custom training plan that fits your current level of fitness and time horizon. A superb resource.

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Post by [old] PaulS » June 2nd, 2005, 11:56 am

Since this is the "Womens Forum", I'm curious, what kind of club has a minimum standard for women of a 7:20 2k? I could see this for guys, but seems a bit aggressive for gals..

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Post by [old] akit110 » June 2nd, 2005, 12:10 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jun 2 2005, 11:56 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jun 2 2005, 11:56 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Since this is the "Womens Forum", I'm curious, what kind of club has a minimum standard for women of a 7:20 2k?  I could see this for guys, but seems a bit aggressive for gals..  <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is it NYAC Rowing, by any chance? <br />Their website makes it sound like it's primarily composed of young, elite rowers.<br />I guess you would have to be fairly elite - one way or the other - to gain membership into the NYAC.

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Post by [old] andyArvid » June 2nd, 2005, 1:55 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-akit110+Jun 2 2005, 12:10 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(akit110 @ Jun 2 2005, 12:10 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jun 2 2005, 11:56 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jun 2 2005, 11:56 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Since this is the "Womens Forum", I'm curious, what kind of club has a minimum standard for women of a 7:20 2k?  I could see this for guys, but seems a bit aggressive for gals..  <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is it NYAC Rowing, by any chance? <br />Their website makes it sound like it's primarily composed of young, elite rowers.<br />I guess you would have to be fairly elite - one way or the other - to gain membership into the NYAC. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I would say so... quoting their site:<br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2005 WOMEN’S PROGRAM DETAILS: PRE-ELITE SCULLING TEAM<br />This group will focus primarily on sculling in quads and doubles, with the opportunities both to learn effective sculling technique and to gain racing experience in sculling events. Successful candidates for this program will be collegiate, varsity athletes or recent graduates eligible for Senior B (under 23) competition. All candidates must have spent 2003-04 in active rowing training and racing. <br /><br />The minimally acceptable erg score will be <b><span style='color:red'>7:20</span></b> or faster. All invitations will be contingent on successful completion of an erg test in June.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />

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Post by [old] PaulS » June 2nd, 2005, 3:16 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-andyArvid+Jun 2 2005, 09:55 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(andyArvid @ Jun 2 2005, 09:55 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would say so...  quoting their site:<br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2005 WOMEN’S PROGRAM DETAILS: PRE-ELITE SCULLING TEAM<br />This group will focus primarily on sculling in quads and doubles, with the opportunities both to learn effective sculling technique and to gain racing experience in sculling events. Successful candidates for this program will be collegiate, varsity athletes or recent graduates eligible for Senior B (under 23) competition. All candidates must have spent 2003-04 in active rowing training and racing. <br /><br />The minimally acceptable erg score will be <b><span style='color:red'>7:20</span></b> or faster. All invitations will be contingent on successful completion of an erg test in June.<br /> </td></tr></table> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I should have known, but the alias "Beastly" is a bit unusual for a girl, it also leaves little doubt that sub 7:20 could well be in her future. <br /><br />All the best, "B"! Can I call you "B"?

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Post by [old] Godfried » June 2nd, 2005, 4:41 pm

<a href='http://www.nyacrowing.net/recruiting_form.htm' target='_blank'>They want them to be fast</a> , <br />women sub 7:20 ( last season 90 in the ranking )<br />LW men sub 6:30 ( last season 25 )<br />HW men sub 6:10 ( last season 43 ).

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Post by [old] Beastly » June 2nd, 2005, 6:24 pm

Thanks bunches, checked out the interactive training plan and showed it to my coach and he said that is a really sound solid program that will help me on my way. So it looks like that's the plan for now! If I'm still in the 7.30's at the beginning of August, that's when I'll start to panic.<br /><br />The club is indeed NYAC which I am acutely aware may very well spit on my application and laugh cruelly before feeding it to the seagulls, regardless of my being sub 7.20 or otherwise. However, I figured it was worth a shot. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. <br /><br />Besides, my options in NY are limited so I may as well explore all of them and make myself technically eligible. And at least it gives me a concrete goal and deadline and no matter where I end up rowing a sub 7.20 2k would be a rockin' thing to have!<br /><br />PaulS, you may indeed call me B if you like. The nickname is one I've had for ages in the rowing world. It stems from the first 2k test I did when I joined my high school team when I was 14. I had been rowing and erging for 4 years, so when I sat down to it with all of the other new girls, all novices, I was the only person who knew what they were doing. I made myself sick doing it and everyone was sort of shocked. One girl, who would became the team comedian and one of my best friends, exclaimed when I'd finished, "Jesus, she's just...a BEAST!" and it stuck.

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Post by [old] PaulS » June 2nd, 2005, 6:35 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Beastly+Jun 2 2005, 02:24 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 2 2005, 02:24 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PaulS, you may indeed call me B if you like. The nickname is one I've had for ages in the rowing world. It stems from the first 2k test I did when I joined my high school team when I was 14. I had been rowing and erging for 4 years, so when I sat down to it with all of the other new girls, all novices, I was the only person who knew what they were doing. I made myself sick doing it and everyone was sort of shocked. One girl, who would became the team comedian and one of my best friends, exclaimed when I'd finished, "Jesus, she's just...a BEAST!" and it stuck. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Great Story, our club has a pretty good bunch of Juniors, and one of the gals is pulling a 7:18 and she's still got a year left in Highschool, so you are probably well on your way with your experience. I can't imagine these kids gettign to college and having 4+ years experience in Rowing, most of us didn't get that much while in college. <br /><br />Remember to put in a good dose of 500M work to get used to the paces that you are after. Once you can get a 500M time of 1:39 or better, you have plenty of strength (for this goal), but then need to work on endurance (most everyone needs the endurance work).<br /><br />Do you have your recent times for the standard distances? 2k, 5k, 6k?<br /><br />Good luck in cracking the nut!

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Post by [old] CAROLE MAC » June 3rd, 2005, 4:53 am

B.... GO FOR IT GIRL...I wish I was your age and knew what I knew now I came to this sport too old.<br />The interactive plan is a good all round plan brought me from a 8.55 2k to a 7.45 2k then had help from Eddie to take me to a 7.39 2k . <br /><br />B keeps us informed of your progress.

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Post by [old] Beastly » June 4th, 2005, 11:33 am

Thanks Carolmac and PaulS!<br /><br />It's really nice to be encouraged. <br /><br />I've added the interactive plan to my weight training and water time workout schedule, it fits in quite nicely, actually. I am really optimistic about the project and the summer racing season (Women's Henley in 2 weeks, then I'll be rockin' a monster 4+ and a 2x with an Oxford Blue for the rest of the summer). <br /><br />I'll be sure to keep you updated and again thanks so very much for the support!<br /><br />

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