Ranger's training thread

[JimR]

PLEASE STOP FEEDING OUR FAVOURITE TROLL.

Seriously ... after BIRC showed he is wasting away?! Why I think everyone should send ranger a bottle of water and a snack ... something with carbs to help him load.

I wonder how much weight he will need to gain to be fast enought to beat the HWTs?

JimR

[JimR]

Everyone understands the only part of the bet with Henry that remains is the part where you pay him. You lost the bet, you knew you lost the bet then and you know the bet is lost now.

I think at this point it isn't the $1000 it is the embarassment of admitting you lost. Althought after the BIRC incident I should think there is anything too embarrasing for you to do

JimR

Quit now! There's no point dragging up that bet. It will never be paid by our welching troll.

At some point the other trolls will start complaining I think ... ranger is the troll of trools, king of the trolls!

JimR

[leadville]

Rangerboy

You actually flew all the way to the UK to turn in that 'performance'?

What a hoot!

I must say that was some 'perfect' rowing. Thanks for showing all how NOT to row; how NOT to act; how NOT to tough it out; how NOT to act after a subpar performance; how to demonstrate boorish behavior.

And a big congratulations to Nav who combined ability, intelligence, class, and toughness in a great performance. That was impressive, Nav.

Look at it this way, rangerboy; if you can cut your splits by a mere ten seconds per 500 you'll be almost as fast as Nav.

Good luck with that.

[H2O]

Kicking a guy while he is down is the sportsmanlike thing to do.
I for one have some respect for Rich as he continued on to the finish despite the obvious trouble.
I don't think I coud have done that.
Once my handle is down it stays down.

I was once carb depleted. I had to move immediately after a race and did not eat enough for a couple of days.
Once moved in I tried a 1K. It ended up at 2K+5.

The new plan is more sensible except for the volume.
I trained at such volumes a long time ago (bike + rowing).
The long bike rides with big mountains did me no good
on the rowing machine. Instead I was always tired.
It is better to reduce the volume and have good workouts.

Say 90mins for UT1 (and it should be easy)
This combined with 2 hard rows a week: one 6K, one TR session.
The TR session could be one 6min near maximal pull.

Add in as much crosstraining and easy rowing as you want as long as it is very easy.
Stepping at 300W just makes you tired for the rowing.

[JimR]

Kicking a guy while he is down is the sportsmanlike thing to do.
I for one have some respect for Rich as he continued on to the finish despite the obvious trouble.
I don't think I coud have done that.
Once my handle is down it stays down.

I was once carb depleted. I had to move immediately after a race and did not eat enough for a couple of days.
Once moved in I tried a 1K. It ended up at 2K+5.

The new plan is more sensible except for the volume.
I trained at such volumes a long time ago (bike + rowing).
The long bike rides with big mountains did me no good
on the rowing machine. Instead I was always tired.
It is better to reduce the volume and have good workouts.

Say 90mins for UT1 (and it should be easy)
This combined with 2 hard rows a week: one 6K, one TR session.
The TR session could be one 6min near maximal pull.

Add in as much crosstraining and easy rowing as you want as long as it is very easy.
Stepping at 300W just makes you tired for the rowing.

He has worked this hard every day for the last 59.9 years you know?! Other than the leaf raking incident a week ago ... was there any leaf raking in the UK, that would explain much.

JimR

[Carl Watts]

No leaf raking just muck raking !

Anyone who the extra time to look at the graphs from the Gold and Silver placings at BIRC will see that Rangers was a pathetic row for someone with any "Race" experience on the erg.

Perhaps Ranger should indeed "Race his Training" it might help him find the pace he can sustain constant for a 2K that would result in a maximal effort and his best possible time.

He raced like a complete amataur doing his first ever 2K, it was a mess from start to finish and he was lucky to get a Bronze medal.

Not being a "Natural" lightweight is killing him, he should have just eaten well & quit the alcohol over the years, put on some muscle mass and rowed in the heavyweights where he belongs.

[JimR]

... he should have just eaten well & quit the alcohol over the years, put on some muscle mass and rowed in the heavyweights where he belongs.

But then he would be average ... not the world's greatest erger of any age, any weight, any place, any time!

Well, except for BIRC ... and EIRC ... and that Chicago incident, plus all those DNS/DNF/WTF rows ... hey wait, maybe this was his first row, he goes on about being a novice all the time.

JimR

[Steve G]

My question 2 pages back still merits a reply, I will reprint in case you missed it.

"My last post, cue trumpets!
Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?

Over and out."

Steve

[ranger]

Training is an opportunity to get better.

Since 2004, my improvement has had nothing to do with my fitness.

My fitness has been maximal for a decade, and because I have been aging, has been declining.

My improvement since 2004 has been technical.

In 2000-2004, I pulled 10 SPI at max drag (200+ df.).

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

Technically, that 's the best I can be.

So my training is now done; and given that this is a training forum, there is nothing else to be said here.

In my daily rowing, and my racing, I am now just working out the consequences of my (completed) training.

In my previous posts today, I detailed what that rowing will be over the next couple of months.

Then I will sharpen for the winter races--and WIRC 2011.

ranger

[Nosmo]

Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?

Really who cares if he didn't show up? If I won I wouldn't.
Leave it alone. We'd all be better off.

[ranger]

Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?

Really who cares if he didn't show up? If I won I wouldn't.
Leave it alone. We'd all be better off.

No one is asking you to care about anything.

Most here seem to care about bad training.

To each his own.

Facts are facts.

Good training is good training.

Bad training is bad training.

Etc.

What you care about is arbitrary.

It doesn't have anything to do with this sport.

It is just a reflection of your personal prejudices, loyalties, misjudgments, failures, inabilities, insecurities, etc.

ranger

[ranger]

Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?
Steve

I medalled?

Amazing.

Since I clearly didn't have it physically and just paddled the last 1K, I assumed that I didn't beat anyone.

As I was paddling in, my cox urged me to stay in the top 10, so I am amazed that I finished in the top three.

I had no idea.

Sure, I congratulated the rowers around me.

As I mentioned before, 6:50 is an excellent row for a 55s lwt.

Certainly.

Congratulations to Paul on a fine row.

Both Mike VB and Rocket Roy (if he races) will have a hard time beating Paul at WIRC 2011, if Paul wants to make the trip and try for a hammer.

I will probably row WIRC 2011 as a 60s heavyweight.

I will try to get the 55s lwt and 60s lwt WRs in WIRC qualifiers.

The 60s hwt qualifying time this year is 6:44.

In the WIRC qualifiers, if I row as a heavyweight, I think I will row in the 6:20s.

Last year, at WIRC 2010, two 60s heavyweights broke 6:40--Spousta and Durr.

Neither broke 6:30.

In the history of the sport, only one 60s heavyweight has pulled sub-6:30.

Paul Hendershott.

ranger

[Steve G]

Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?
Steve

I medalled?

Amazing.

Since I clearly didn't have it physically and just paddled the last 1K, I assumed that I didn't beat anyone.

As I was paddling in, my cox urged me to stay in the top 10, so I am amazed that I finished in the top three.

I had no idea.

Sure, I congratulated the rowers around me.

As I mentioned before, 6:50 is an excellent row for a 55s lwt.

Certainly.

Congratulations to Paul on a fine row.

Both Mike VB and Rocket Roy (if he races) will have a hard time beating Paul at WIRC 2011, if Paul wants to make the trip and try for a hammer.

I will probably row WIRC 2011 as a 60s heavyweight.

I will try to get the 55s lwt and 60s lwt WRs in WIRC qualifiers.

ranger

Rich
You paddled virtually the whole race compared to your outlandish predictions!
Over and out

[Steve G]

Not showing up for the awards ceremony was inexcusable and disrespectful, we need a word on this Rich, you wasn't laid out and unable to make it, what's the story? Did you congratulate the 2 medallists at all?

Really who cares if he didn't show up? If I won I wouldn't.
Leave it alone. We'd all be better off.

I dont quite understand that quote, so if you travelled somewhere, competed, won a medal, you wouldnt show at the ceremony?

[ranger]

Rich
You paddled virtually the whole race compared to your outlandish predictions!

Sure.

But just a bad performance.

Doesn't have anything to do with my ability or my training.

Glycogen depletion again, probably.

At it turns out, I only got to about 11% body fat.

I need to get to 10% body fat to make weight solidly.

So I was depleted.

Sorry, but you can't row a quality 2K with no energy.

ranger