Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

The other good 55s lwts also rate 34 spm for 2K, but pull 9.5 SPI.

When he set the 40s lwt WR in 2002, Mike Caviston rowed right around 1:34 @ 34 spm (12.7 SPI).

At 37 years old, Eskild E. is also rowing 1:34 now for 2K, although he still likes lighter stroking at a higher rate.



ranger

[snowleopard]

although he still likes lighter stroking at a higher rate.

You have absolutely no idea what EE 'likes' to do.

[macroth]

although he still likes lighter stroking at a higher rate.

You have absolutely no idea what EE 'likes' to do.

Why are you trying to ruin his mantasy? Ranger's nights are probably filled with dreams involving EE and light stroking at high rates.

[mrfit]

At 37 years old, Eskild E. is also rowing 1:34 now for 2K, although he still likes lighter stroking at a higher rate.


ranger

Have you told him about his problem? All these kids do is rate high. They have no concern for their SPI. Stephenson especially. They just play video games and text their friends..no interest in learning anything.

[mikvan52]

No need for me to post this morning. Excellent interpretation of eL Bat-to, the special one..

But I will comment that the build-up to the culmination of year of the SOB's RWB has reached epic proportions. I can only think that it is similar to some of the most gripping situations in Biblical History...
The "Parting of the Waters" comes to mind.

Return with us now to the thrilling days of yesteryear. The Lone ranger, ergs again!

READERS: Do you have 7 minutes? If so, compose thyself and view this allegorical representation of what our professor of perfect rowing is up against.

Keep certain quotes in mind as you watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2MUPPfb ... re=related

“Thou Hast Betrayed Us, And
We Are Lost! For Behold,
The Nay-Sayers Are Upon Us!”

“Fear Ye Not, Stand
Still, And See The
Salvation of the RWB!”

“TSO Is Our Strength
And Song, And He Is
Become Our Salvation”


Onward, to the denouement across the waters in Birmingham. We shall be delivered to the 'Holy Land' of natural stroking power!

Next-up (another sequel): The ranger 'red-letter' Nuevo Testament

[ranger]

Have you told him about his problem? All these kids do is rate high. They have no concern for their SPI. Stephenson especially.

It's not at all a problem for young guys to rate high, given their aerobic capacity.

You are wrong that folks such as Stephansen and Ebbesen are not concerned with SPI.

In their prime, even rating 40 spm, they pull 12 SPI, not 9 SPI.

But Eskild and Henrik won't rate 40 spm when they are 60, either, given losses in that aerobic capacity.

They'll probably rate 32 spm, like other 60s lwts.

And if they rate 32 spm but don't continue to attend to their stroking power, they'll pull 7:00 for 2K like other 60s lwts (that is, if they are still lightweights, which is pretty doubtful).

ranger

[mikvan52]

You are wrong that folks such as Stephansen and Ebbesen are not concerned with SPI.

Errr...

Please direct us to citations of HS and EE discussing SPI... Oh, and Rich:
You might as well go straight to the "hole in the donut" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbs64GvGgPU

It's as about "on topic" as you can get

But let us not be side-tracked from the Main Event!

Already, DLS supporters are braving the Chunnel and assembling in bonnie old England, singing traditional fight songs, in honor of their erstwhile hero of 2003, "Himself": The Baron of the Erg... Von MannBatt

Just look at the adoring throngs of comely wenches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSTN1pMvJjg

Elskid sent them on ahead to set the stage for ranger's perf. this coming Wochen Ende.

[ranger]

Please direct us to citations of HS and EE discussing SPI

True.

Kids like HS and EE, in the prime of life, don't need to worry about stroking power.

HS and EE row well--just naturally.

But if they rowed like you, they'd _certainly_ have to worry about it.

At 9 SPI, even 40 spm is just 1:39/6:36.

ranger

[mrfit]

You are the one that said "although at a high rate" when describing EE's 37 year old rowing.

"Although" suggested to me that you thought he does not attend to your prescriptions for rowing and needed your advice on matters of aging and rowing. 23 years from now he's going to be 44 seconds off the WR time you'll have said nothing to him? Seems incredible to me, anyway.

[mrfit]

You can "kontact" EE here.

http://eskildebbesen.dk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=53

[mikvan52]

You can "kontact" EE here.

http://eskildebbesen.dk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=53

Yes, Rich: Why don't you gather up your huevos and (skriv din forespørgsel ) write him some obsequious missive?

Might I suggest you ask him if gives his rate eine kleine (bump) at the end of a 2k? or, Does he hold his rate Konstant for a patented Von MannBatt high spi score?

Leaving this banter aside for a moment:

I sat 10' away from EE as he battled HS at WIRC in 2008.
(Stephansen won!) Henrik's erg was jerking around like a mechanical bull on steroids... Linda Muri had to stand on the front legs of HS's erg to prevent it from exiting the floor of the arena.
I could tell that EE wanted to win the contest in the worst way.... He even poured the entire contents of a water bottle on the rail of his erg to diminish friction on the rollers just prior to the opening start buzzer...

The silver lining for EE is that HS's form leaves him at 2nd echelon OTW (the lwt 1x is a demotion from the lwt 2x as only the 2x is an Olympic event )... while EE remains a god....

[mikvan52]

Please direct us to citations of HS and EE discussing SPI

True.

Kids like HS and EE, in the prime of life, don't need to worry about stroking power.

HS and EE row well--just naturally.



ranger

Years ago I pointed out
that HS ergs 2k at 40 spm and 1:30 pace..
That's an spi of 12...
Care to explain the 'stroking power' discrepancy....?

(details, details)

[BrianStaff]

I will race at the pace that my trainiing tells me I am capable of, as any experienced racer does.

Well, you failed at that twice last year. There were two competitions where you handled down and recorded 7:11.

So obviously, you were not experienced then and you've only had one race since.

I think that still makes you inexperienced

[NavigationHazard]

Actually HS rows his starts and finishes faster paced, and at higher ratings, than the middle 1k or so of a 2k erg race. "Cruising" pace/rate typically has been 1:31.5ish r38-39, at least on the last couple of WR rows. I doubt that he gives a rat's cloaca about SPI. If he's even heard of the term. He has a Facebook page. Someone could always try asking him directly....

[ranger]

Years ago I pointed out that HS ergs 2k at 40 spm and 1:30 pace. That's an spi of 12...
Care to explain the 'stroking power' discrepancy....? (details, details)

What discrepency?

You mean the one between HS's 12 SPI and your 9.5 SPI?

Why should _I_ be concerned with it?

That's _your_ business.

I have already rowed sub-6:30 @ 12 SPI, without even preparing for it, at high drag, still struggling with technique.

I am much better than that now.

I now row well (12.7 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

And now, I am preparing to race.

ranger