Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by PaulH » November 13th, 2010, 3:29 pm

ranger wrote: I have already obliterated world records--repeatedly.

I am now much better than that.
No, you just *claim* to be better.
ranger wrote: Sharpening is coming along fine.
Sharpening is complete, and has been for over a week now. All you have left to do is perform, at the level your completed sharpening has determined for now.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » November 13th, 2010, 3:52 pm

aharmer wrote:No sir I cannot. And neither can you. I'll gladly eat my words and congratulate you the second that video shows up in this thread.

My goodness, you're such a f*****g drama queen. Just sit on the damn erg, program 500m and pull your ass off for a minute and a half. You really need to prepare for weeks or months to do a 500m trial?
You many not have read every one of ranger's posts but I can say with certainity that it takes 7 years to prepare for the 500m trial in ranger's case.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » November 13th, 2010, 3:54 pm

KevJGK wrote:Here’s an idea. :idea:

Tell us what you’ve done - not what you’re gonna do.

Might save lots of hot air.

No?
He has "done" 13SPI naturally ... therfore he can "do" the times one would expect when using the rate (spm) that has to be used for each of the distances one would do.

It is all a forgone conclusion ...

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by luckylindy » November 13th, 2010, 4:13 pm

aharmer wrote:No sir I cannot. And neither can you. I'll gladly eat my words and congratulate you the second that video shows up in this thread.

My goodness, you're such a f*****g drama queen. Just sit on the damn erg, program 500m and pull your ass off for a minute and a half. You really need to prepare for weeks or months to do a 500m trial?
Right there with you. We don't even need a video ... a simple picture of a good workout would be fine. It's still beyond me why someone with so much potential throws it away and then makes a laughing stock of himself at the same time.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » November 13th, 2010, 6:05 pm

aharmer wrote:Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You talk as though you know how to break WRs, etc., and I don't.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You don't know shit.

I've been there, done that--repeatedly.

You haven't been anywhere, done anything.

Ever.

You're just a clown.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » November 13th, 2010, 6:42 pm

ranger wrote:
aharmer wrote:Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You talk as though you know how to break WRs, etc., and I don't.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You don't know shit.

I've been there, done that--repeatedly.

You haven't been anywhere, done anything.

Ever.

You're just a clown.

ranger
That is a somewhat ironic statement from the king of clowns don't you think?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mrfit » November 13th, 2010, 6:47 pm

http://img17.imageshack.us/i/2hoursnov132010.png/

Here a shot of my progress with HR and Power. This was a two hour ride on the road. I felt fantastic today. HR just rode around 150 and I would push it to 160 on the hills (70HRR to 75%HRR). What looks like a power drop off at the end was really just hill repeats where I was climbing for a few minutes at 300w and then decending at very low watts. I lost all the light at 5:00pm and had to hit a steep hill in a local neighborhood to finish out my workout. I'm really happy to see this power.

ranger, good luck with the 500m trial.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » November 13th, 2010, 7:12 pm

Rich:
Here's a new approach we could try.

Why not just tell us what workouts you are doing w/o times ?

We all know you don't disclose performance data. You'd make this thread far more interesting if we knew (for instance) that today you did 8 x 500m 3:30 rest.

Even more interesting would be an account of your sharpening program.

eg:

Mon & Thursday = short intervals
Tue. Wed. Fri = SS
sat= RWB
Sun= ranger fartlek

What do you think? You do want to provide SOME clue as to what you are doing, don't you?
And you say that you are not doing RWB these days..
I really have no idea what you are doing.

Is it still a secret?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » November 13th, 2010, 7:25 pm

mikvan52 wrote:Even more interesting would be an account of your sharpening program.

eg:

Mon & Thursday = short intervals
Tue. Wed. Fri = SS
sat= RWB
Sun= ranger fartlek
Mike ... why is it not enough that ranger tells us that he is working for 90 - 120 minutes per day with rates in the 20 - 46spm range at a SPI of 13+ with an HR of 40 - 170bpm while always taking good strokes? All this is in line with someone who is going to pull a 6:20 2K at BIRC 2010.

Why next you will be wanting pictures, videos, witnesses and the like. You are certainly a skeptical one aren't you?!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by jliddil » November 13th, 2010, 7:55 pm

mikvan52 wrote:Rich:
Here's a new approach we could try. ..........
You are now in danger of becoming ranger. I'll bet you already posted this idea/approach sometime in the past.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by kini62 » November 13th, 2010, 8:58 pm

ranger wrote: Proof?

I have already obliterated world records--repeatedly.

I am now much better than that.

I have worked for seven years to get better.

ranger
Proof-

You've obliterated nothing in the last 7 years other than 100s of bottles of cheap booze and pounds of HGH

If you are "now much better than that", whatever "that" is..... Where is the proof? Oh yeah. Last year when you FAILED yet again to break Roy's WR, when you FAILED to break 7 minutes more than twice, when you FAILED to finish numerous races, when you FAILED to even show up for races, when you FAILED to post more than one even remotely credible screen shot of anything you did- and that was some 40 seconds off your "goal" time.

7 years and so much worse for the wear.

I see a LOT of FAILURE, no success and NO proof of anything other than your ability to type an endless array of posts to this forum all the while supposedly hammering along at 1:35 pace for 10s of thousands of meters per day.

You're such a tool.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by bellboy » November 13th, 2010, 9:35 pm

This is a virtual repeat of last years posts prior to WIRC. Our very own Captain Chaos posted like a madman,frothing at the mouth about he had already won the hammer and thus had no need to actually show up. Its all rather sad.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » November 13th, 2010, 9:51 pm

JimR wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:Even more interesting would be an account of your sharpening program.

eg:

Mon & Thursday = short intervals
Tue. Wed. Fri = SS
sat= RWB
Sun= ranger fartlek
Mike ... why is it not enough that ranger tells us that he is ...
"working with"....hmmm
Even ranger knows that "taking only good strokes" paints with a broad brush.

All I want to hear him say is : "Yes I do the same thing every day" or "No, I vary things. Here's how"
It will be quite confusing for him to say: the difference between my pre-sharpening period and my sharpening period is (only) (such & such) pace..
IOW: RWB in both periods.

Right now I can only tell you: "Jim, ranger sharpening consists of ..... intervals, .... days a week.
That is: I have no idea what he's doing.

Will he like to tell us? Probably not.
Then again:
Perhaps ranger would like to leave a legacy on how a 59 year old ergs a 6:4x.x 2k.. It's up to him.
If he doesn't want to ... fine.
He was asked politely....(once).

IMO: He'd probably perform better in the Championship contests if he loosened up a little...

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » November 13th, 2010, 9:58 pm

I also wonder why , given that ranger has been sharpening since September, why he's not ready for what has to be his best for the BIRC, his best chance (& perhaps his last) to get the WR in the 55-59 lights...

Come January:
ranger's Beating Brian Bailey (BBB) is far less remarkable due to the understandable attrition in aged men. Just look at how few 60-64 lwt men even rank 2ks! (less than 100 world wide in an entire C2 year :shock: )

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » November 13th, 2010, 11:53 pm

mikvan52 wrote:I also wonder why , given that ranger has been sharpening since September, why he's not ready for what has to be his best for the BIRC, his best chance (& perhaps his last) to get the WR in the 55-59 lights...
Didn"t someone mention a public erg opportunity just prior to his 60th birthday a while back ... one that would have lax weigh-in rules and no tracking ... so that he could do whatever and say whatever when the racing was over?

Of course it would be in January ... when the chance of frostbite running outdoors at 3a is at its most likely.

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