Ranger's training thread

[Rockin Roland]

500m, 1:26 @ 42 spm (13 SPI), is only 57 strokes.

Not bad at all.

9 MPS

ranger

9 meters per stroke at a rating of 42 spm !!!

RUBBISH !!!

From what I've seen of you in your last technique video clip you'd be lucky to get 9 meters when your rating 28 spm.
Your short inefficient stroke is just not capable of that.

[mikvan52]

Lol so you think you can row a 1:26 500m and still call it sub-max ?

I think not that's my PB at 36 spm and you don't have the power to do it anymore regardless of rating.

Still it's less than a minute and a half of your time so I'm sure you can easily find the time to fit one in before you fly and rank it. But like the 2K before you go it's not going to happen.

We are however glued to the screen awaiting the result from BIRC 2010......

And you weigh 100kgs and are a younger man.
I'm not saying that you, Carl, are like this (because I do not know you)... but there are quite a few middle aged men who have (sort of) convinced themselves that they will not get slower as they age.
Perhaps that is why some newbies like the "I'm much better than that now statement" and hang on to a small expectation that ranger will do something "unprecedented".

In my forties, I was a sub 1:30 500m performer... and this was w/o the intense training similar to what I've done recently. Such training holds my 500m best at 1:30.x (fact, not "if I" or "should")

As I've watched (for the last 3 years): Newbie's come and go... after they discover that the only they get from ranger is a "HRQ" and slowly declining 2k times... albeit very very fast for his age... "Great job, TSO, now run along back your basement."

There is a salient point in all this banter:
Roy Brook is not worried about losing his record.
He and I have discussed this at length in and around the two times we sat next to an empty erg seat at CRASH-Bs.. reserved for ... the special one (TSO).

[NavigationHazard]

Good training for a 500m, 1:26 @ 42 spm (13 SPI), I think, would be a day or two of 1' rows at the same rate and pace.

378m

42 strokes

9 MPS

Rest time between rows is irrelevant.

Just do another when you feel comfortable and ready to go again.

Then, when that 42 strokes feels controlled and comfortable, just bite the bullet and row the last 15 strokes.

ranger

Muppet. 378m in 1 minute is 1:19.4 pace. 1:26 pace would be 349m, and 8.3 metres/stroke. If you could get to a minute at 1:26 r42 you'd still need another 18 strokes and a coast to get to 500m. Fairly obviously, you didn't come close to the latter or you'd understand the 29m difference between the two rows.

Translation from the Fraudgerspeak: 'I actually tried a 1'/1' session in the middle of the night to see whether I could do Nav's 20 x 1'/1' r32 @ 1:33.3. Even though I've not tried anything similar these past seven years, because it scares me, I'd told the Forum it was a "cinch" and said I'd do it this weekend. I got 100m into rep 1 and discovered I'm not actually capable of training "at the same pace and rate" as Nav. So I handled down and started again to see how fast I could go without the rate. I managed to get to 250m at 1:26.x r42 (all of 30 strokes) and then the wheels fell off....'

You are a fraud. Admit it and move on.

[mikvan52]

(TSO)You are a fraud. Admit it and move on.

Interesting prospect...
How does a fraud move on? Write a memoir?
Diary of a Washed-Up Liar... soon to be a Major Motion Picture

[Citroen]

How does a fraud move on? Write a memoir?
Diary of a Washed-Up Liar... soon to be a Major Motion Picture

Best example: A Journey by Tony B-Liar is available from http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journey-Tony-Bl ... t_ep_dpt_1 for £11.97 ($19). That tissue of lies has been seen at less than £1 in some shops selling remaindered books.

Your lying fraudulent ex-president, GWB, has a similar tome: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decision-Points ... 0753539667

I bet Hollywood are working on the film for those two right now.

[mikvan52]

How does a fraud move on? Write a memoir?
Diary of a Washed-Up Liar... soon to be a Major Motion Picture

Best example: A Journey by Tony B-Liar is available from http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journey-Tony-Bl ... t_ep_dpt_1 for £11.97 ($19). That tissue of lies has been seen at less than £1 in some shops selling remaindered books.

Your lying fraudulent ex-president, GWB, has a similar tome: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decision-Points ... 0753539667

I bet Hollywood are working on the film for those two right now.

Aw, come on, Dougie! It's not nice to pick on defenseless megalo-maniacal defenseless draft-dodging alcoholic dwarfs living off paltry trust funds.
I hear "W" is going to play "dress-up" one more time and put on the flight suit to cheer-lead at the Super Bowl in 2011.
.... hasta la "Mission Accomplished!" , baby!

I bet there's at least one midwestern professor who has voted "Shrub"....

[ranger]

9 meters per stroke at a rating of 42 spm !!!

Yep.

On the button.

ranger

P.S. When I do the 500m trial, 1:26 @ 42 spm, I'll put a camera on it and post the video.That should be convincing, no? You can critique my technique. As I am doing 70 watts better than anyone my age and weight has ever done before, you can tell me how bad I am, even though, if you were doing as well, you wouldn't do Big Bird's lame 490 watts for 2K but 560 watts, 1:25.5, 5:42.

[aharmer]

Please do us a favor and don't post a video of 7 strokes. If you're going to go through the trouble, shoot your "easy" 500m piece at 1:26.

[ranger]

Please do us a favor and don't post a video of 7 strokes. If you're going to go through the trouble, shoot your "easy" 500m piece at 1:26.

See above.

ranger

[Citroen]

It's not nice to pick on defenseless megalo-maniacal defenseless draft-dodging alcoholic dwarfs living off paltry trust funds.

You missed the election fraud (aided and abetted by Jeb) and the phony graduation with an MBA (means bugger all) degree from Harvard.

[ranger]

From what I've seen of you in your last technique video clip

Dang!

Who'd have thunk it?

It is possible to train--and get better.

Unreal.

How so?

Training is just a list of performances.

No?

And you are only as good as your last 2K.

No?

So how can you ever get better?

Hmm.

Dunno.

Duh.

Uh.

Say, what?

Uh.

Duh.

See any good movies lately?

Wanna go out drinking tonight?

ranger

[mikvan52]

Are they casting for a remake of Dumb and Dumber ?

[KevJGK]

Rich - you are truly hilarious.

Please tell me why are you doing this?

[NavigationHazard]

9 meters per stroke at a rating of 42 spm !!!

Yep.

On the button.

ranger

P.S. When I do the 500m trial, 1:26 @ 42 spm, I'll put a camera on it and post the video.That should be convincing, no? You can critique my technique. As I am doing 70 watts better than anyone my age and weight has ever done before, you can tell me how bad I am, even though, if you were doing as well, you wouldn't do Big Bird's lame 490 watts for 2K but 560 watts, 1:25.5, 5:42.

You seem to have lost a button along with your cognitive functions. Once again, 500m in 1:26 r42 would be 8.3 meters/stroke. It's moot of course since you can't actually do it.

How are those 20 x 1'/1' at 1:33.3 coming? Tick tick tick....

Fraud.

[ranger]

What is amazing about this so-called training forum is its pervasive disbelief in training.

The reasoning seems to go this way.

Training is an opportunity to get better.

But the only good training is a performance.

Performances never make you any better.

So it is impossible to use training to get better.

No matter how hard you train, you can only get worse.

Go figure.

ranger