Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Bob S. » October 30th, 2010, 10:32 am

luckylindy wrote:He certainly gets plenty of attention though - his most recent blog entry has over 400 views ... as of right now, more than the sum total of all blog posts made since his. A quick scan of all blog entries seems to indicate that he has the top 10 most popular blog posts made on the site. I guess everyone loves a good show!
There was some comment on the UK forum a while back about the possibility of a blogger being able to add extra viewings of the blog. I don't remember the details of the procedure and I don't know if it has really been used in this case, but I have just a touch of skepticism about it.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Byron Drachman » October 30th, 2010, 10:41 am

bellboy wrote:
Byron Drachman wrote:I am avoiding his UK BLOG but I don't know how long I can hold out. How is everyone else doing? Maybe just a quick peek wouldn't hurt anything. No, no, no. I won't. That would be like the alcoholic who has taken the vow taking just a sip. I'm not looking. We can get through this. Stay strong.
Hands across the sea Byron, hands across the sea. I'l be your sponsor.Repeat after me, "today is a good day".
Thanks for the moral support. One day at a time. I might get through another day.

If he stays with the BLOGs at the UK forum he has the upper hand. He used to edit other peoples' postings or delete them if he didn't like them.

For anybody reading this thread who needs a quick fix, here are three gems:
Ranger wrote: March 14, 2010: I am going to stay a stable 160 lbs. this summer so that I can kick Mike VB's butt OTW in my 1x at the Nationals.

June 27, 2010: given that I was just out in my Fluid, doing 1:56 @ 31 spm. No one my age is rowing any better, including Dietz and Spousta, who, between them, have won the Head of the Charles a couple of dozen times.

September 2, 2010: BTW, over the next six weeks, I will time myself on the Head of the Grand course a dozen times or so.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:07 pm

Byron Drachman wrote:
bellboy wrote:
Byron Drachman wrote:I am avoiding his UK BLOG but I don't know how long I can hold out. How is everyone else doing? Maybe just a quick peek wouldn't hurt anything. No, no, no. I won't. That would be like the alcoholic who has taken the vow taking just a sip. I'm not looking. We can get through this. Stay strong.
Hands across the sea Byron, hands across the sea. I'l be your sponsor.Repeat after me, "today is a good day".
Thanks for the moral support. One day at a time. I might get through another day.

If he stays with the BLOGs at the UK forum he has the upper hand. He used to edit other peoples' postings or delete them if he didn't like them.

For anybody reading this thread who needs a quick fix, here are three gems:
Ranger wrote: March 14, 2010: I am going to stay a stable 160 lbs. this summer so that I can kick Mike VB's butt OTW in my 1x at the Nationals.

June 27, 2010: given that I was just out in my Fluid, doing 1:56 @ 31 spm. No one my age is rowing any better, including Dietz and Spousta, who, between them, have won the Head of the Charles a couple of dozen times.

September 2, 2010: BTW, over the next six weeks, I will time myself on the Head of the Grand course a dozen times or so.
Cheers, Byron.

See you at BIRC?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:11 pm

Bob S. wrote:
luckylindy wrote:He certainly gets plenty of attention though - his most recent blog entry has over 400 views ... as of right now, more than the sum total of all blog posts made since his. A quick scan of all blog entries seems to indicate that he has the top 10 most popular blog posts made on the site. I guess everyone loves a good show!
There was some comment on the UK forum a while back about the possibility of a blogger being able to add extra viewings of the blog. I don't remember the details of the procedure and I don't know if it has really been used in this case, but I have just a touch of skepticism about it.

Bob S.
Cheers, Bob.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:12 pm

ginster wrote:
ranger wrote:
As i have explained many times, lately, I like to train is freer ways, off the clock, so that I can work on technique, which I am trying to improve.
no no no... you;ve confused yourself again... you've told us many many times recently that you now row perfectly, and all you need to do is sharpen - which you said you'd started.... you're not still working on technique... that phase is finished...

remember back in summer.... "I will do all the distance pieces in September"
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:13 pm

PaulH wrote:In case anyone has withdrawal symptoms, ranger is now blogging again on the UK forum...
Cheers, Paul.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:14 pm

aharmer wrote:
peterhowd wrote:
aharmer wrote:
You show that simple piece that you do every day and everybody here will give you the respect you long for.
He's not looking for respect. He's looking for attention.

Here is my challenge to everyone (Mike included): no more responding to anything Ranger might post after 1-1-2011, assuming, of course, that he survives BIRC to post again. I am as addicted to this show as the next person, but there has to be a better way to contribute to the erg/rowing community than this.

Alternately everyone has to put a jar beside their computer. Toss in $0.25 per post you make in response to Ranger on any thread, charity of your choice. I'll start my jar now.
Not a bad idea. I'll be long gone by then though. After a BIRC no-show, DNF, handle down or 6:40 something performance it's over. No more excuses for him to weasel out of his lies, no more reason for us to show up. All or nothing in a couple short weeks. We'll have to be creative and come up with new topics to discuss...something a bit more educational for all of us.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:15 pm

H2O wrote:I cannot and do not believe that Ranger would lie, nobody here rally believes that.
But we know that he cannot row 1:44@24 at distance (say 8K).
On the other hand he seems to remember clearly that he is doing this fairly easily.

So what's going on?

Could it be an illness, hallucinations?
Hard to believe since these hallucinations are logically consistent and stable over time.

I discovered the solution in the work of David Jacobs, Ph.D., Associate Professor of History at some accredited college.
His careful research clearly proves that space aliens are in the business of abducting citizens and using them for their nefarious purposes. They then implant screen memories to block out the actual proceedings.

I believe that Rich is a victim of these evil creatures which impant in his mind carefully crafted memories
of training sessions and paces which then prompt Rich to travel to race venues and launch himself into races
with imprudent paces.

It would explain the odd fact that he believes to wake up at 3:00 AM to commence his workouts.
The aliens are known to be nocturnal.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:16 pm

mikvan52 wrote:
ranger wrote:
mikvan52 wrote:What's your best 5k on the erg.. Mine is under 17:50 and is in the 17:50's ...You claim to have 16:30 capability
I have done 17:10 for 5K, but that was at max drag, rowing like shit.

I am quite a bit better than that now.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (120 df.).

If you rowed well (13 SPI), you'd also be capable of 16:30 for 5K, once your were trained up for it, because you'd only have to rate what you do now, 29 spm.

You'll have trouble pulling 16:30 @ 9.5 SPI, though, because to get it done, you'd have to rate close to 40 spm.

That's a bit much, if you are pulling for almost 20 minutes.

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Why don't you just say:
"I don't care to answer the real question." and move on...

I asked: "What do you do your Anaerobic (eg. 20' long w/o a break) workouts at now."
You just like to jerk people around.
Who does that help? This is a training forum. Why don't you play along: provide some substance to your "I'm much better..."?
Cheers, Mike.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 2:17 pm

luckylindy wrote:
ranger wrote:
H20 wrote:But we know that he cannot row 1:44@24 at distance (say 8K).
There is no evidence for this at all.

That is the problem with nay-saying.

It is entirely unjustified.

What nay-sayers presume is just a product of their own insecurities, ill-will, projections, and other personal maladies.

These presumptions have nothing to do with reality,

ranger
So why not post a picture after one of your workouts? Everyone else has no problem doing so from one of theirs, so why do you?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by BrianStaff » October 30th, 2010, 5:01 pm

ranger wrote:Cheers, Byron, Bog, Ginster, Paul, aharmer, H2O, Mike & luckylindy.

See you at BIRC?

ranger
You're expecting to see a lot of people at BIRC.

You had better show up yourself...after all, you don't have a good track record of showing up for these events.

Show up...because we all want to see what you can really do
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 6:21 pm

BrianStaff wrote:
ranger wrote:Cheers, Byron, Bog, Ginster, Paul, aharmer, H2O, Mike & luckylindy.

See you at BIRC?

ranger
You're expecting to see a lot of people at BIRC.

You had better show up yourself...after all, you don't have a good track record of showing up for these events.

Show up...because we all want to see what you can really do
Cheers, Brian.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 6:24 pm

Brian wrote:You're expecting to see a lot of people at BIRC.
A couple of thousand compete at BIRC.

Usually a couple of hundred compete at the smaller venues.

I have been racing continuously for the last couple of years, five or six times a season, much more than people like Rocket Roy, Mike VB, and so forth, usually about twice as much.

For the last two years, among 55s lwts, I have had the best 2K time done a race venue.

Sure, I see lots of people when I race, and, yes, they see exactly what I can do, just as I can see just what they do.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Byron Drachman » October 30th, 2010, 6:27 pm

BrianStaff wrote:
ranger wrote:Cheers, Byron, Bog, Ginster, Paul, aharmer, H2O, Mike & luckylindy.

See you at BIRC?

ranger
You're expecting to see a lot of people at BIRC.

You had better show up yourself...after all, you don't have a good track record of showing up for these events.

Show up...because we all want to see what you can really do
You see, all those other times when he was going to do his 6:16 or better 2K he didn't sharpen. This time it will be different. He started sharpening on Sept 1 and it is coming along fine.
Ranger wrote:July 21, 2010: I will start sharpening for BIRC 2010 on September 1st.

September 5, 2010: I will be sharpening for the next six months. That should be more than enough time to get fully trained.

September 19, 2010: I am now sharpening, preparing to race, both OTW and OTErg.

September 25, 2010: Now, I am sharpening, too.

October 21, 2010: Now I am again sharpening to race. --snip--After BIRC 2010, I will continue to sharpen until WIRC 2011.

October 27, 2010: Sharpening is coming along just fine. I am delighted with it.
Isn't that great news? And this time he won't have problems making weight:
Ranger wrote:October 26, 2010: I am at weight now.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 30th, 2010, 6:30 pm

Byron Drachman wrote:And this time he won't have problems making weight:
I have been working on my weight since September. I have been reporting exactly what I have been doing to work on my weight, 1-2 hours OTBike at 20 mph, in addition to my standard 10K-20K OTErg. In the spring, summer, and fall, as you know, I also rowed OTW.

My weight is great. No problems at all this year, given my preparation.

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