Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ginster » October 26th, 2010, 7:00 am

ranger wrote:
ginster wrote:so you can row 100k at 1.52 r20? WOW!
Yea, I suspect that I probably can, although I haven't tried it yet.
so if you haven't done it - how do you know what your natural stroking power is? You still haven't given me a test I can do to find out my natural stroking power?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ginster » October 26th, 2010, 7:02 am

ranger wrote:
I am now pulling 13.2 SPI, _better_ than perfect for a lightweight of any age!
better than perfect? come now prof, anyone new to this thread would end up thinking you're just making this Sh*t up as you go along?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by lancs » October 26th, 2010, 7:25 am

ranger wrote:
ginster wrote:so you can row 100k at 1.52 r20? WOW!
Yea, I suspect that I probably can, although I haven't tried it yet.
I think this might now be my all time favourite Prof vPB! That's a seriously impressive row, I have to say. Well done!

Of course, there is part of me that wonders if you could even do a tenth of that session at that pace and rate?

100k? At 1:52?! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by jliddil » October 26th, 2010, 8:29 am

ginster wrote:
ranger wrote:
I am now pulling 13.2 SPI, _better_ than perfect for a lightweight of any age!
better than perfect? come now prof, anyone new to this thread would end up thinking you're just making this Sh*t up as you go along?
Ah, a fast learner. :D
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by jliddil » October 26th, 2010, 8:37 am

lancs wrote:
ranger wrote:
ginster wrote:so you can row 100k at 1.52 r20? WOW!
Yea, I suspect that I probably can, although I haven't tried it yet.
I think this might now be my all time favourite Prof vPB! That's a seriously impressive row, I have to say. Well done!

Of course, there is part of me that wonders if you could even do a tenth of that session at that pace and rate?

100k? At 1:52?! :lol: :lol:
Oh yea of little faith!

500m/1:52 X 200 = 100K

200 X 1:52 = 6.2 hours

Add some bathroom time, start stop interval time, so round to 8 hours. Seems perfectly doable to me. :lol: I think I'll give it a go this weekend. :shock: :o :lol:
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 26th, 2010, 8:44 am

jliddel wrote:Oh yea of little faith!

500m/1:52 X 200 = 100K

200 X 1:52 = 6.2 hours

Add some bathroom time, start stop interval time, so round to 8 hours. Seems perfectly doable to me. I think I'll give it a go this weekend.
Really?

200 x 500m, 1:52 @ 20 spm (12.5 SPI)?

We await your screen shot.

That would be a lot of good work pulling 12.5 SPI!

Thousands and thousands of strokes.

_Very_ good training.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by NavigationHazard » October 26th, 2010, 9:19 am

feckandclueless wrote:It is largely raising the rate that challenges your aerobic capacity...
Simply not true. The factors that determine the mix of energy pathways you use in exercising have nothing directly to do with rating. They have everything to do with how hard you're working for how long. You can row "anaerobically" [sic] at (say) 16 spm if you're working hard enough.* And you can row "aerobically" at (say) 40 spm for quite a while if you're working sufficiently easily.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mikvan52 » October 26th, 2010, 9:35 am

We've been waiting for years for a demo of the stupendous ranger aerobic capacity.
What's his IND_V 5k erg score again? as a 55-59 year old (any weight) ?................. :P

Answer: He has not recorded one IND_V 5k for posterity... in FIVE years (!).


This thread (as it pertain to ranger's performance) is w/o substance when considering distances beyond 2k...

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by DUThomas » October 26th, 2010, 9:48 am

mikvan52 wrote:This thread (as it pertain to ranger's performance) is w/o substance when considering distances beyond 2k...
And oh so different when considering the 2K -- :roll:
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by rjw » October 26th, 2010, 9:57 am

mikvan52 wrote:This thread (as it pertain to ranger's performance) is w/o substance when considering distances beyond 2k...
.....and considering distances under 2k as well.

Corolory, any distances (as they pertain to ranger's performance), except 2k's around 6:4x, with a lightweight stamp are w/o substance!
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » October 26th, 2010, 11:39 am

ginster wrote:
ranger wrote:
ginster wrote:so you can row 100k at 1.52 r20? WOW!
Yea, I suspect that I probably can, although I haven't tried it yet.
so if you haven't done it - how do you know what your natural stroking power is? You still haven't given me a test I can do to find out my natural stroking power?
Do a 2K as fast as you can.

Divide the watts by the stroke rate.

That will tell you your natural stroking power pretty closely.

Actually, if you are an experienced racer, you can do this with any trial and the result will be closely comparable.

Do a 60min trial.

Divide the watts by the stroke rate.

That's your natural stroking power.

Do a 10K trial.

Divide the watts by the stroke rate.

That's your natural stroking power.

Do a 5k trial.

Divide the watts by the stroke rate.

That's your natural stroking power.

Etc.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by nharrigan » October 26th, 2010, 12:16 pm

ranger wrote: Divide the watts by the stroking power.

That will tell you your natural stroking power pretty closely.

Actually, if you are an experienced racer, you can do this with any trial and the result will be closely comparable.
It's all so confusing. All this math.

(Watts/Stroking Power) = Natural Stroking Power Pretty Closely

Have I got that right?
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by mrfit » October 26th, 2010, 12:34 pm

ranger wrote:
Do a 2K as fast as you can.

Actually, if you are an experienced racer, you can do this with any trial and the result will be closely comparable.

Do a 60min trial.

Do a 10K trial.

Do a 5k trial.

Divide the watts by the stroke rate.

That's your natural stroking power.

Etc.

ranger
I did a 500m trial at 1:37 and 30spm. I get 12.8 for my "natural stroking power".

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by luckylindy » October 26th, 2010, 12:39 pm

It's rather incredible that this is the largest topic on the forums. It's kind of entertaining to read. That's all - I have nothing valuable to add :wink:
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LP: 1:18 100m: 17.3 500m: 1:29 1000m: 3:26 5k: 18:58 10k: 39:45

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by snowleopard » October 26th, 2010, 12:41 pm

ranger wrote:Do a 2K as fast as you can.

Divide the watts by the stroking power.
Is that watts/watts? Or watts/(SPI)? Or WTF?

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