Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Pulling right about the same rate, exactly, 33 spm, Mike VB goes 1:43 (9.7 SPI).

The difference is stroking power.

I am pulling 12.5 SPI; when Mike does a 2K, he pulls 9.7 SPI.

Racing head-to-head, this would be pretty cool to watch.

Mike and I would go up and down the slide together, stroke for stroke:

Catch-Finish-Catch-Finish-Catch-Finish.

But I would win the race by 32 seconds.

Mike would fall short of Rocket Roy's 55s lwt WR by 14 seconds.

I would break Rocket Roy's 55s lwt WR by 18 seconds.

As a result of my training (rather than just racing, and preparing to race) over the last seven years, my stroke is 30% stronger than Mike's (and all other 55s and 60s lwts).

ranger

[Flipper21]

Pulling right about the same rate, exactly, 33 spm, Mike VB goes 1:43 (9.7 SPI).

The difference is stroking power.

I am pulling 12.5 SPI; when Mike does a 2K, he pulls 9.7 SPI.

Racing head-to-head, this would be pretty cool to watch.

Mike and I would go up and down the slide together, stroke for stroke:

Catch-Finish-Catch-Finish-Catch-Finish.

But I would win the race by 32 seconds.

Mike would fall short of Rocket Roy's 55s lwt WR by 14 seconds.

I would break Rocket Roy's 55s lwt WR by 18 seconds.

As a result of my training (rather than just racing, and preparing to race) over the last seven years, my stroke is 30% stronger than Mike's (and all other 55s and 60s lwts).

ranger

You really have gone belly up Rich........

Congrats on the above virtual PB yet AGAIN.

[ranger]

You really have gone belly up Rich........

Congrats on the above virtual PB yet AGAIN.

pb?

No, plan for sharpening and racing.

Much more important than a pb.

My pb is 1:37/6:28.

1:35 @ 33 spm (12.5 SPI) is 6:20.

ranger

[Flipper21]

"I am pulling 12.5 SPI; when Mike does a 2K, he pulls 9.7 SPI."




"1:35 @ 33 spm (12.5 SPI) is 6:20."

A virtual PB.

In your own words Rich.

Congrats again. A New WR as well as PB.

[H2O]

So if it indeed turns out that I am now doing 1:44 for top-end UT1 on the erg ...

ranger

What is that supposed to mean?
Most people know exactly what they are "now doing".

[lancs]

You have seen the picture of EE. He looks like a Norse god. You, on the other hand, look like Mother Teresa.

Now that made me laugh..

Some great vPBs today Prof; spectacular rowing. I think my favourite of the lot was the 40x500m @1:35! Genius..

40x500m?? At 1:35?? I would be seriously impressed if you could do 3 or 4 of them at that pace. You, I and everyone else here knows that you can't do anymore than that. If you could, you'd have taken a picture of it by now.

Can you come up with some more vPBs tomorrow please? I'm on-call all weekend so need the amusement to keep my chin up..

[snowleopard]

As a result of my training (rather than just racing, and preparing to race) over the last seven years, my stroke is 30% stronger than Mike's (and all other 55s and 60s lwts).

I am so o o o looking forward to BIRC

[Carl Watts]

Wow still no 5K to beat Mike ? How long do you need ? is there something wrong with the gauntlet he threw down ?


Wrong Size ? ........................................I have big hands to match my big head
Wrong hand ?........................................I'm worried if it gets stuck it could seriously threaten my "Sex life"
Wrong colour ?.......................................You know I only like Gold or I throw my toys and DNF
You have lost it ?....................................Are we still talking about the Gauntlet or my mental state ?
Still looking for the other one to go with it ? ....It's going to take me another 7 years to find it
It hit you when he threw it ?........................I'm injured, my finger hurts so no chance of a sub 18

With an Ego like yours you would have it posted in no time flat (if you could actually do it that is) and THEN have the balls to tell us it was only a UT2 training row for you !

Unfortunately for you, the PM4 is a truth machine so it's fact before fiction.

Bring on BIRC ! It's terribly exciting ! What a build up ! Is there going to be live video ?

[ranger]

Hugely impressive Veterans/60s male race at the Head of the Charles.

Meyer and Anderson rowed right around 2:00 pace, while Dietz slipped to eighth place, pulling 2:06.5 pace.

Haslam and Spousta were also fast, faster than Mike VB, for instance, pulling 2:04 pace.

In terms of unadjusted times, I think that all of these folks were faster than any male Veterans have ever been at the Head of the Charles.

_Very_ fine rowing, dependent in part, of course, on the beautiful conditions.

These folks are raising the bar!

ranger

[ranger]

So if it indeed turns out that I am now doing 1:44 for top-end UT1 on the erg ...

ranger

What is that supposed to mean?
Most people know exactly what they are "now doing".

And what good does that do them, if the result is slow and their rowing is bad?

If the result is slow and their rowing bad, it just means that they haven't figured things out, and haven't even started doing the training that they need to deliver the goods, once they figure things out.

Knowing exactly how slow and bad you are, day after day, session after session, does you no good whatsoever.

It doesn't make you fitter.

It doesn't make you more skilled.

It doesn't help you understand your weaknesses.

It doesn't help you overcome those weaknesses.

Therefore, it makes no positive contribution to your training whatsoever.

ranger

[ranger]

it's fact before fiction.

Yea, I know.

I have three WR 2Ks, six sub-6:30 2Ks, golds in all of the major champhionships, two golds at BIRC, the best 2K time in my age and weight division for the last two years, without even preparing for it, and the 55s lwt BIRC championship record.

After seven years of hard training, overcoming my major weaknesses, I am now in the position to pull a lwt 6:16 at 60 years old, an accomplishment that would be in the range of a half a minute better than the present standards in the sport.

The PM4 is my dear, dear friend.



Thank God there are things in the world like the PM4, which tells it like it is.

The PM4 is the bane of all nay-sayers, who don't like facts at all, because, by and large, they neither train hard nor row well themselves, but are just out for a bit of socializing and entertainment on the sidelines.

ranger

[ranger]

Hugely impressive Veterans/60s male race at the Head of the Charles.

Meyer and Anderson rowed right around 2:00 pace, while Dietz slipped to eighth place, pulling 2:06.5 pace.

Haslam and Spousta were also fast, faster than Mike VB, for instance, pulling 2:04 pace.

In terms of unadjusted times, I think that all of these folks were faster than any male Veterans have ever been at the Head of the Charles.

_Very_ fine rowing, dependent in part, of course, on the beautiful conditions.

These folks are raising the bar!

ranger

Ouch.

This must be quite a disappointment for Mike VB.

It means that, even now, two years from when he can row as a Veteran, Mike VB is 40 seconds slower than the best current Veterans at the Head of the Charles.

These Veterans will now be handicapped at 8 seconds per year, so by the time Mike rows as a Veteran, he will be close to a minute slower than the best Veterans now, in terms of adjusted scores.

That puts the possibility of winning the Head of the Charels pretty much out of the picture--forever.

ranger

[ranger]

Love this cadence at 33 spm for 2K racing OTErg.

_Much_ more relaxed than 36 spm.

Given the quickness of my legs now and the low drag (120 df.), short drive time (.55 seconds), long recovery (1.3 seconds), and therefore high ratio (2.5-to-1), 33 spm doesn't feel rushed at all.

Leisurely stuff.

I now have this music playing around the house (and in my head)--all day long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxYeJYDOIoY

At 12.5 SPI, when I rate 33 spm, I go 1:35.

So that's all she wrote.

There is my race pace and rate for BIRC--and beyond.

Now, I just need to do it for millions of meters over the next four months.

ranger

[bellboy]

it's fact before fiction.

Yea, I know.

I have three WR 2Ks, six sub-6:30 2Ks, golds in all of the major champhionships, two golds at BIRC, the best 2K time in my age and weight division for the last two years, without even preparing for it, and the 55s lwt BIRC championship record.

After seven years of hard training, overcoming my major weaknesses, I am now in the position to pull a lwt 6:16 at 60 years old, an accomplishment that would be in the range of a half a minute better than the present standards in the sport.

The PM4 is my dear, dear friend.



Thank God there are things in the world like the PM4, which tells it like it is.

The PM4 is the bane of all nay-sayers, who don't like facts at all, because, by and large, they neither train hard nor row well themselves, but are just out for a bit of socializing and entertainment on the sidelines.

ranger

This is fucking priceless. The PM4 is the bane of all naysayers? Post a genuine workout like Nav does which backs up your outrageous claims then the "naysaying" would stop immediately. As for you now being in position to row 6.16 at BIRC? If thats the case then im now in postion to be ball deep in Salma Hayek tonight. In fact i reckon my chances are better. I am a naysayer. Im obviously vermin. Call me Ratty.

[ranger]

Post a genuine workout

Workouts are done, not posted.

Training is an opportunity to get better.

So, any bit of training that improves how well you row is an advance; any bit of training that doesn't is a waste of time.

This part of the sport doesn't have much to do with the clock at all.

It has to do with figuring out how to row well, and then training yourself to do it.

The PM4 is the great friend of those with good training and therefore those who have learned to row well.

In the end, when they race, those who have used their training to learn to row well are fast, and the PM4 tells everyone exactly how fast they are.

When they race, those who train poorly and don't learn to row well turn are slow, and the PM4 tells them exactly how slow they are.

ranger