Ranger wrote:June 21, 2010: Delighted with all of this. Now I just need to do it for a month or two, working it into distance trials by August so that I can begin full sharpening on Septemberr 1st.
July 12, 2010: In 2001-2002, I started sharpening for winter races (WIRC qualifiers and WIRC) on September 1st. I'll do that again this year.
July 21, 2010: I will start sharpening for BIRC 2010 on September 1st.
July 21, 2010: As far as the erg is concerned, my work on technique is done. So it is time to sharpen and race.
August 9, 2010: For the six months of this next indoor racing season (September, October, November, December, January, February), I will indeed be sharpening hard.
August 16, 2010: I am rowing well! at low drag. Fait accompli. All systems go. I am ready to sharpen.
September 5, 2010: I will be sharpening for the next six months. That should be more than enough time to get fully trained.
September 12, 2010: I will be sharpening hard from now until WIRC, that is, for the next six months.
September 19, 2010: I am now sharpening, preparing to race, both OTW and OTErg.
September 22, 2010: But I stil need to do the AT, TR, and AN rowing that will make this prediction a reality. I will be sharpening for the next six months to see whether I can make this happen.
September 25, 2010: Now, I am sharpening, too.
September 29, 2010: Six months of sharpening from now until WIRC.
October 7, 2010: I am just getting into the throes of sharpening. I'll post lots of screen shots, when I get around to doing "pieces.'
October 11, 2010: I haven't sharpened since EIRC 2003.
October 20, 2010: I am preparing to race, but I haven't been doing many "pieces" yet, or fast rowing.
Ranger's training thread
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With apologies to Ernest Thayer.
Ranger At The Erg
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And now the plastic-handled anchor comes hurtling through the air
And Ranger sits there hauling it in haughty grandeur, scared.
Far off the target pace and rate, the flywheel quickly slows --
"This ain't a trial," says Ranger. "Stroke one," the PM shows.
From the Forum, nay-sayers lurking, there comes up a muffled smirk
Like the roaring of the flywheels at a well-attended BIRC
"Ban him! Ban the fraudger!" angry posts are flying in
And 'tis likely they'd a-done it had not Ranger gone again.
There's a hint of beady flopsweat in the Battcave before dawn
He stills his rising heart rate; he bids the row go on;
He curses at the monitor, the flywheel spins anew
Though Ranger still implores it, the PM says, "Stroke Two."
"Fraud!" cries the maddened NavHaz, and echo whispers fraud;
One video from our hero and the Forum will be awed.
They'll see his face grow stern and cold, they'll see his muscles strain,
And they'll know that Ranger will not let that force curve slip again.
The fear is real in Ranger's eyes, the crucial drive awaits
He points with cruel violence his toes upon the plate
And now he comes up to the catch, and now he gives it smack,
And now the air is shattered by the sprack of Ranger's back!
Oh somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are erging, and there's boats out on the lake
And no ranked piece in Ann Arbor. Mighty Ranger rows with breaks.
Ranger At The Erg
...
And now the plastic-handled anchor comes hurtling through the air
And Ranger sits there hauling it in haughty grandeur, scared.
Far off the target pace and rate, the flywheel quickly slows --
"This ain't a trial," says Ranger. "Stroke one," the PM shows.
From the Forum, nay-sayers lurking, there comes up a muffled smirk
Like the roaring of the flywheels at a well-attended BIRC
"Ban him! Ban the fraudger!" angry posts are flying in
And 'tis likely they'd a-done it had not Ranger gone again.
There's a hint of beady flopsweat in the Battcave before dawn
He stills his rising heart rate; he bids the row go on;
He curses at the monitor, the flywheel spins anew
Though Ranger still implores it, the PM says, "Stroke Two."
"Fraud!" cries the maddened NavHaz, and echo whispers fraud;
One video from our hero and the Forum will be awed.
They'll see his face grow stern and cold, they'll see his muscles strain,
And they'll know that Ranger will not let that force curve slip again.
The fear is real in Ranger's eyes, the crucial drive awaits
He points with cruel violence his toes upon the plate
And now he comes up to the catch, and now he gives it smack,
And now the air is shattered by the sprack of Ranger's back!
Oh somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are erging, and there's boats out on the lake
And no ranked piece in Ann Arbor. Mighty Ranger rows with breaks.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
No, it's not silly at all.snowleopard wrote:Yes, saying that 1:56 for 60 mins points to a 7:04 2K was a bit silly even by your standardsranger wrote:[removed]
60m is done at 2K + 10.
So, 1:56 for 60min exactly predicts a 7:04 2K.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
I didn't have to think much to pull sub-6:30 when I was 50.Carl Watts wrote:Rangers technique is to "Visualise" rowing at some pace that he cannot sustain for the required duration and if you then say you can or I will over and over enough times then the virtual world becomes the real world. When you get to the point that they merge and you cannot tell the difference the sharpening is complete.
But to pull sub-6:30 when I was 55, without even sharpening for it, required quite a bit of thought.
Pulling sub-6:20 when I a 60 is requiring a _lot_ of thought.
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Think on, think on.ranger wrote:No, it's not silly at all.snowleopard wrote:Yes, saying that 1:56 for 60 mins points to a 7:04 2K was a bit silly even by your standardsranger wrote:[removed]
60m is done at 2K + 10.
So, 1:56 for 60min exactly predicts a 7:04 2K.
A free rate 10K @ 1:56 (~70% 2K watts) predicts a 6:55 2K.
Who says 60 mins is 2K+10?
Re: Ranger's training thread
Come on Ricky:
from http://jerksinyourarea.com/
PUOSU !
Where's the 500m sub 1:30? open rate, open weight?
Won't post it? Why not?
The raw speed has to be there, listeners... Rich has not cracked 1:30 in years and he wants us to believe that he can go 4x the distance at 1:35.... It does take a "Lucy" to THINK about that one, Ricardo!
This is a pre-sharpening concept in anybody's training.
from http://jerksinyourarea.com/
PUOSU !
Where's the 500m sub 1:30? open rate, open weight?
Won't post it? Why not?
The raw speed has to be there, listeners... Rich has not cracked 1:30 in years and he wants us to believe that he can go 4x the distance at 1:35.... It does take a "Lucy" to THINK about that one, Ricardo!
This is a pre-sharpening concept in anybody's training.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
Rich - Base pace is a pace that you can do for "hours and hours". !:40 is certainly not your base pace.ranger wrote:The most important pace and rate to do in sharpening, I think, is BASE PACE, for me now, 1:40 @ 27 spm (13 SPI), 3-to-1 ratio.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
Rich:
Here's a HOCR report...
I put in at the public landing just upstream of the Elliott Bridge, Boston side.
Water was nice... I even took a Richard Cureton ceremonial swim.. but that's another story.
Here's a ranger-esque report of my paddling up and down the Charles, refamiliarizing myself with the turns:
Lots of 1:58 pace at 26 spm.
Happy with that
Hi-Yo Silver
If I can hold 36 spm for the full 4800m on Saturday I will turn in an eye-popping time that will be unprecedented in the history of rowing...
What do you think, Rich? A squib worthy of you....El Measly-Mouthstro?
What did you learn from my report?
Nothing.
Was it a training report ?
No, it was only
Smoke on the water! "Am I right, or am I right, or am I right..right.. right..?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xwCy_ai_E0
Carry on...but
"Watch out, that first step is a doooozie!"
Stay dry
Here's a HOCR report...
I put in at the public landing just upstream of the Elliott Bridge, Boston side.
Water was nice... I even took a Richard Cureton ceremonial swim.. but that's another story.
Here's a ranger-esque report of my paddling up and down the Charles, refamiliarizing myself with the turns:
Lots of 1:58 pace at 26 spm.
Happy with that
Hi-Yo Silver
If I can hold 36 spm for the full 4800m on Saturday I will turn in an eye-popping time that will be unprecedented in the history of rowing...
What do you think, Rich? A squib worthy of you....El Measly-Mouthstro?
What did you learn from my report?
Nothing.
Was it a training report ?
No, it was only
Smoke on the water! "Am I right, or am I right, or am I right..right.. right..?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xwCy_ai_E0
Carry on...but
"Watch out, that first step is a doooozie!"
Stay dry
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Re: Ranger's training thread
It's not even his 2K pacerjw wrote:1:40 is certainly not your base pace.
Re: Ranger's training thread
I hear the rowing community of Lansing will be erecting a bronze plaque on a boulder on the shores of the Mighty Grand:
the inscription:
"ranger, the consummate oarsman,
we fondly recall him on the Grand
those magnificent sturdy hands
bending his mighty shaft
ah, if only he had bent his oar too..."
sss-pee-eyeing his way to glory...
Ever notice that there is a little bit of ranger in lots of those in the hell-bent-for-leather rowing community?
Watch this:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6994813/
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the inscription:
"ranger, the consummate oarsman,
we fondly recall him on the Grand
those magnificent sturdy hands
bending his mighty shaft
ah, if only he had bent his oar too..."
sss-pee-eyeing his way to glory...
Ever notice that there is a little bit of ranger in lots of those in the hell-bent-for-leather rowing community?
Watch this:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6994813/
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Today's trainer session. Pushing threshold power for 3x7min mixed in with normal power. Just a pinch of intensity to spice it up. On the real road this would be like riding in a 3 man paceline where each of us rotate to the front and take the pull for ~7 minutes.
Today's trainer session. Pushing threshold power for 3x7min mixed in with normal power. Just a pinch of intensity to spice it up. On the real road this would be like riding in a 3 man paceline where each of us rotate to the front and take the pull for ~7 minutes.
Re: Ranger's training thread
Base pace is 6K pace.rjw wrote:Rich - Base pace is a pace that you can do for "hours and hours". !:40 is certainly not your base pace.ranger wrote:The most important pace and rate to do in sharpening, I think, is BASE PACE, for me now, 1:40 @ 27 spm (13 SPI), 3-to-1 ratio.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
Sure, but "speed" in rowing is really natural stroking power--at all distances.mikvan52 wrote:The raw speed has to be there, listeners... Rich has not cracked 1:30 in years
Rate is limited mechanically and aerobically.
Consequently, when I was doing RWBs, I was interested in getting to some max on 500m @ 10 MPS, e.g., 1:26 @ 35 spm.
That's 16 SPI.
But I wasn't interested in a high rate 500m.
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Re: Ranger's training thread
No, as in all things, speed in rowing is distance/timeranger wrote:Sure, but "speed" in rowing is really natural stroking power--at all distances.
Re: Ranger's training thread
Yet another "accomplishment" for which there is no evidence!ranger wrote:Consequently, when I was doing RWBs, I was interested in getting to some max on 500m @ 10 MPS, e.g., 1:26 @ 35 spm.mikvan52 wrote:The raw speed has to be there, listeners... Rich has not cracked 1:30 in years